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Wonder what bozo dreamed this one up (referring to attached image)? Grant it, some of those symbols certainly are connected to fascist and other authoritarian groups, but the people who claim to be part of the anti-racist/fascist crowd need to get their definitions right.

Definition of Fascism: A political philosophy, movement, or regime that exalts nation and often race above the individual and that stands for a centralized autocratic government headed by a dictatorial leader, severe economic and social regimentation, and forcible suppression of opposition.

Definition of Libertarianism: A political philosophy and movement that upholds individual liberty as a core principle. Libertarians seek to maximize autonomy and political freedom, emphasizing free association, freedom of choice, free market capitalism, property rights, individualism and voluntary association.

Fascist and Libertarian never have and never can be allies, as they are diametrically opposed to one another. The former is about submitting to "authority" and anti-individualism, while the latter is for minimal Government involvement in personal matters and support individualism.

The Anti-Communist Action is not a pro-fascist movement, and serve to educate society on the dangers of communist group think which is currently playing a sizable role in "woke" politics. Ironically enough, groups like ANTIFA and BLM are far more authoritarian in their approach to matters than the Libertarians could ever hope to be (which is a good thing). The more you slanderously label us (talking to the far-left fanatics out there) as racist or fascist etc, the more we will push back against your slanted views of us. For the record, you are more than welcomed to disagree with me, and do know that I will never seek to disenfranchise or attempt to cast you out of society for simply disagreeing with me. That's more than what I can say for some of the leftwing groups, who would be more than eager to blackball another who simply held different political views than themselves.

SpikeTalon 10 June 27
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According to the above, simply being anti-communist is a symbol of hate...🙄
Because communists were such a tolerant and peace loving group 😂🤣😂

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One person's hate is another's justified stand. It is telling that the default position of humans is to distrust and vilify others in the illusion that it makes them stronger. It might have worked in tribal times but is the cause of the strife and destruction that is today's world.

I get your point, but find it ironic albeit irksome that those who complain about attacks directed towards the left have no problem when the situation is vice versa, and show no attempt to even try to understand the opposing view. The cause of much strife indeed.

@SpikeTalon It goes both ways equally whichever stance seems most reasonable to the individual. I try to see the validity and bullshit of both sides. There is nothing simple or certain in the universe. "The sun will rise in the morning." No it won't, the earth will rotate so the place you are will turn toward the sun. "Get rid of all the (liberals - conservatives) and everything will be smooth and easy." No it won't, those who remain will start fighting among themselves. Each side needs the other to have a common enemy so they can believe in their own unity.

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It is funny how it is OK to hate people that hate…

? not sure I understand

Yes … I am not into the “Hate” concept.
Basically it indicates investing too much time and effort.

On the other hand, there are many people I Despise.
A Visual Representation of “Despise”?
Picture a Dog kicking dirt over a recent deposit of Crap.

The paradox of tolerance.

@iThink
What I mean Is, the same people that point out how much some people hate and telling us how bad hatred is, how much that same people hate people and are themselves full of hatred towards the people they claim that hate.

Just pointing out the hypocrisy….

It is ok to hate people that you believe hated in the first place. And somehow this hatred you have for this people is OK.

You can replace hatred with racist etc….

@WilyRickWiles
I would rather say the paradox of intolerance.

The most intolerant people are those who claim others are intolerant…. Or racist…

This create the problem for people that actually need to point out intolerance or racism.

Since everyone is doing it and then he most intolerant and racist excel at it, no one is pointing out the real problems.

This is nothing new and have been happening all through history.

@Hanno What's the correct way of having discourse about systems of oppression?

@WilyRickWiles
Let’s try to stop hating or pretending that reverse hating is OK for starters and go from there?

@Hanno So hate and "hating hate" need to stop before we can talk about it?

@WilyRickWiles
It is like saying we need to stop drinking before we can start eating?

Of course not. It is perfectly possible to do both at the same time.

What I am pointing out is the hypocrisy of those who think hating those they believe to hate is OK. In doing so they turn exactly into that they oppose.

Hatred and racism in all their forms are not OK. The whole cancel culture is every bit as bad as that they believe they oppose.

@Hanno Are you not guilty of hating perceived hypocrites, therefore making yourself just as hypocritical? Don't tell me there's a moral difference between hating a hypocrite and hating someone who is hateful, but then it would follow that there is a much larger difference between hating people on the basis of an immutable characteristic and hating someone who hates people because of an immutable characteristic.

And with that being said, how do you even distinguish between someone who "hates people who hate" and someone simply attempting to discuss systems of oppression? I suspect that you are conflating discussion and political confrontation of systems of oppression with hate of individuals. Capitalism has indoctrinated you to think this way.

@Hanno I see - but I disagree with your opinion that "hate" and "racism" are interchangeable.

@WilyRickWiles
Please refer to the OP picture…. It states that people who disagree with you are suddenly all hate groups and we need to make sure they know they are not welcome.
I am not conflating anything… I am responding to the OP.

And most importantly, I am not hating the hypocrites, I am just pointing it out.

@iThink

I did not mean to say that hate and racism is interchangeable inasmuch they are the same thing.
I just meant that the same principle can be applied to them.

It is ok to hate those you think are hating others.
It is ok to be racist to those you think are racist.
It is ok to kill beat up bullies because you think they beat up others.
Etc etc…

@WilyRickWiles

There is a very clear difference between discussing the wrongs in the world with people who think different to you… and canceling or telling people they are not welcome because they don’t think like you.

You fail to distinguish between the two.
Socialism has indoctrinated you to think this way.

@Hanno You are generalizing and strawmanning again, which is why your attempt to narrow the subject to the OP image doesn't work.

@Hanno You arbitrarily dub people "cancellers" and therefore disqualify their good faith discussion of injustice. Which is quite hypocritical, btw, to cancel cancellers (and who in reality are just "people who don't think like you" ).

@Hanno When you do it it's "just pointing something out." When the the left does it, they're "hating."

@WilyRickWiles

Haha! I am “generalising” by “narrowing down to the OP”.
lol!
That is is exactly the opposite what I did.
Do you understand what generalising mean?

Please point out where I have “cancelled” the cancellers?
Talk about creating strawmen!
LOL!

Socialism has actually damaged your ability to reason.

@Hanno "There is a very clear difference between discussing the wrongs in the world with people who think different to you… and canceling or telling people they are not welcome because they don’t think like you."

That is a general statement. The previous reply by you attempted to narrow. You've been generalizing this whole thread in fact.

@Hanno You cancel the cancellers by implying (go back to our earlier discussion on when it's OK to discuss systems of oppression) that cancellers are barred from discourse. And you arbitrarily pick the cancellers. The emperor has no clothes.

@WilyRickWiles

No, it is not a general statement. It refers specifically to the difference between the type of conversation we are having now where we disagree but not cancel each other by blocking each other… and what the OP is doing by canceling anyone who done agree with him.

It refers specifically to the OP.
I never generalised it to the “left” or people in general.

And please, show me where I hated the hypocrites or canceled the cancellers… or where I created a straw man.

Which is worse hating those who hate, turning a blind eye to those who hate, or supporting those who hate? Hmmm

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But that's what the Left does. They change definitions so they fit whatever their narrative happens to be. Fascism, racism, feminism, equality....the list goes on. All have alternate meanings crafted to fit the narrative.

Another tool/trick is lumping somewhat similar issues with admittedly really nasty ones. Listen to any CNN broadcast to see that in action.

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From the film "Angels and Demons"

Robert Langdon: The Illuminati were initially peaceful. Scholars. Then the Catholic Church attacked them, drove them underground, and radicalized them.

There are two kinds of fascists. Fascists and anti-fascists.

After England killed Americans at the battle of Lexington and Concorde, Americans became stoked to fight for independence.

If you're white and a white supremacist, Democrats hate you.
If you're white and not a white supremacist, Democrats hate you.

I would say that about covers it! Of course, what do I know, I identify as whitish; therefore,
I am a (insert doublespeak descriptor here)...

I’m a Devout and active Racist …
Consequently Democrats have always “Hated” me.

Bigoted Stupid People ARE a “Race” Aren’t They?

Forgot to add this previously …
For they certainly are a “Race” to the bottom.

@Bay0Wulf

Are Racists also a Race? If so, hating Racists is racist!

@WorldSigh
Honestly, I see nothing wrong in the concept of being “Racist” … after all, every living thing actually is “racist”. (ie. Having a strong preference for others of its own kind)
So I don’t “Hate” Racists …

Racist is simply another word that has been deliberately twisted to mean something other than what its true definition is. Yes, even in most dictionaries these days.

What most people seem to mean when they use the word “Racist” is “Bigoted”.
I don’t “Hate” Bigots either … they’re not worth the time and energy … I simply despise them.

@Bay0Wulf

Freedom of association is also freedom of disassociation from jerks.

I discriminate against jerks.

I like to hang out with cool people.

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Does this mean I can’t watch InfoWars and fly the Kekistanian flag? What if I painted Kek pink?
Or, would that just prove Alex was right about the effeminate amphibians...

(Gasps) You... you watch InfoWars? How dreadful, lol.

Effeminate Amphibians?
How odd … since some amphibians actually ARE Capable of being True “Trans” …
That is, they can “go to sleep” a Fertile, Functioning, Male and arise a Fertile, Functioning, Female

@Bay0Wulf

I’m fairly certain this only happens to amphibians with post-secondary degrees...

@WorldSigh
Well, I was referencing True Biology rather than Pseudo Human Traits …
Personally I find referring to certain types of humans as “amphibians” to be an insult to Amphibians.

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