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Study warns of 'irreversible transition' in ocean currents that could rapidly freeze parts of North America AND THE CLIMATE CHANGE FEAR MONGERING RAMPS
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toronto_Georgia 8 Aug 5
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Ocean circulation is driven by evaporation in both the Arctic and the Antarctic. The Arctic is obstructed because it has to flow through the Atlantic before it can connect to the Pacific. The Antarctic is unobstructed. There are no land blocks in the Antarctic. There is an ocean current that goes round and round Antarctica perpetually, and it has many evaporation sinks that power ocean circulation.

Ocean circulation from Antarctic evaporation is greater than from Arctic evaporation.

Magnitudes matter. Reject any article that lacks magnitudes.

Ocean circulation is absolutely not in danger of shutting down. Even if Atlantic circulation were shut down, which it never will, the evaporation from the Antarctic will keep circulation going.

Ocean circulation brings oxygen to the deep ocean, and you want that. Good for the fishing industry. Good for whales that hunt squid. We should use a nuke to open a deep ocean channel through the Aleutians and improve ocean circulation.

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The article about thermohaline circulation uses an illustration from Wikipedia.

The illustration is not data. It's an oversimplified representation of the data, designed for style and not substance.

If that's the best illustration the article has, then ridicule it. If the authors had legit science, they would have a legit illustration of the data, that goes beyond Wikipedia. They don't.

The authors are lazy jerks.

Their readership is even lazier, and more easily influenced. Today if anything exceeds a few minutes for consumption no one would both reading it.

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Democrats assume that anything humans do to the Earth is bad. This is dead wrong. Humans can improve the Earth, and we should let them.

The question is not Republican vs. Democrat. The question is complexity vs. simplicity. We should embrace complexity and tackle the question of geoengineering. If people want to virtue signal about climate, make it a requirement to learn climate physics.

Few Democrats study climate physics. Their talking points are dead on arrival. Dead by default.

Democrats are simplicity-philes. Luddites.

Einstein: Things should be made as simple as possible, and not simpler.

Einstein: Complex problems have simple, easy to understand, wrong answers.

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The ocean thermohaline circulation cycle is driven by evaporation in the Arctic. Ocean water can only evaporate if there is no ice on the surface. If the polar ice caps shrink, then the driving force behind ocean circulation increases.

The article is dead wrong. Global warming increases ocean circulation, not decreases it.

The theme of ecoterrorists is that they assume that any climate change that might potentially occur is bad. This is easily rebutted. Simply state the bias. State that climate change can potentially be good.

The deep ocean and the upper ocean circulate separately. They don't interact because of the temperature gradient between them. The deep ocean is cold and the upper ocean is warm. Global warming increases the temperature of the upper ocean and has no impact on the temperature of the lower ocean. The lower ocean is always 4 Celsius. This is because water has maximum density at 4 Celsius. The deep ocean can't be anything other than 4 Celsius.

Global warming increases ocean circulation by warming the upper ocean and helping it disconnect from the lower ocean.

Climate change can lead to improvements. We should get serious about geoengineering and take control. jaymaron.com/earth.html [jaymaron.com]

Ecoterrorists love to cite ocean thermohaline circulation because it sounds apocalyptic. They want you to fear that it might shut down. It never will. Shutting it down would require either blocking the Atlantic or triggering an ice age. Any time you see an apocalyptic article on ocean circulation, ridicule it.

At present, the North Atlantic participates in thermohaline circulation and the NOrth Pacific doesn't. This is because the Aleutians block circulation in the North Pacific.

For geoengineering, we could use nuclear bombs to open up a deep ocean channel in the Aleutians, which would add the Pacific to ocean circulation. Let's do it!

Ocean circulation can be improved.

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There are no numbers in the article. To the article, the ocean currents are either "shut down" or "not shut down". There is no gray.

Reject articles that don't have numbers. It means their model is weak, or that they're wrong entirely.

I just posted it because it represents their delusions which continue to obfuscate and ramp up fear with little or no fact to back it up. Just more panic building to the unsuspecting and poorly educated.

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Further along in the same crappola story they claim that freezing will raise ocean levels.
Umm, perhaps on Mars. Not here, tho. Not physically possible.

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These stories never change from year to year

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The Left is drooling. More excuses for lockdowns.

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