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Why do many Leftists fervently believe Trump is a reincarnation of Hitler?

One of the laws of online discussions is that the longer it goes, eventually someone will make a comparison involving Nazis or Hilter (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Godwin%27s_law). This seems most accurate when Leftists think about Trump... an example from the NYTimes today: [nytimes.com]

While it is true that Trump has a reputation for invoking patriotism, it is unclear if his actions as president is a "lurch toward authoritarianism". In the 1930s, Hitler moved to censor the press, organized boycotts of businesses run by those he didn't like, created a state religion of hate towards what he claimed were an oppressive group, tightly controlled arts (films had to have ideological messaging) and education (e.g., school age books to Indoctrinate hate towards a group), and promoted a chosen group as morally superior to the oppressive group. Could it be argued that these actions are more what we're seeing from the Left?

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Default argument " anyone I disagree with is Hitler!😂

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Some of the hatred may come from the television show 'The Apprentice'I believe some people built a loathing for Donald Trump that has never gone away because of that show also there is a fifth column working against America TDS plays into that very well. The comparison to Hitler certainly has to do with nationalism, these days it seems to be considered de rigeur to love ones country if it is 'western' and nobody can deny that Trump loves America.

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What is really interesting is that the left may cause the rise of a real Hitler type in this country. Believe me, Trump is a powder puff in comparison. The left used to always call conservatives reactionary and they are as a reaction to the left same as Hitler was. See German History pre WWII...very similar to what is going on here today.

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The Left have degraded to almost pure emotional language, Pathos, of which Hitler is the ultimate emotive cudgel . Given Trumps willingness to punch back or even regularly resort to ridicule and mockery they got to Hitler a lot faster.

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Do you bring this up in the context of his recent legal boundary pushing? Trump is a lazy, self-interested authoritarian. Leftists admit that many of his policies are not new or shocking but a continuation of the bipartisan consensus of recent decades. What alarms them is the boundary pushing with immigrants, with the Census, in Washington, DC, in Portland, and possibly in cities throughout the country, combined with the open desire of at least 30% of the population for a civil war to cleanse the country of leftists, liberals, and minorities.

I friend of mine forwarded me the NYTimes article as she's afraid that Trump is ratcheting up authoritarianism... so I made this the topic of the day. My personal belief is fear on both sides is due to outrage culture and social media training us to dehumanize those who have different views. I often hear both sides saying that the other side is the one doing bad things and they're just responding. Reminds me of a kid pulling the hair of another kid and saying, "I'm not pulling, you are!". As these protests lose their novelty, the protestors seem to raise the stakes and, after being on sidelines, Trump is (reluctantly?) getting the Federal government involved... which raises things more. My liberal friends seem both afraid of the things that my conservative friends fear but in reverse. I'm just trying to make sense of it.

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I fear we're moving closer & closer to Berlin circa 1938. Part of my psyche is troubled. Part of my psyche is proud. But.... when will the checks & balances of our constitutional republic kick in?

Could you elaborate a bit what you mean by "Berlin circa 1938"? Are you more concerned that Trump or the Leftists are "Hitler"? I wonder how would Hitler handle the protests of 2020...

Certainly trying times we live in...

@Admin With bullets.

@Admin
First the caveat: I'm no historian or expert on Germany.
Around 1938, Germany was in a depression, still recovering from The Great War. Unemployment was . The traditional government had been unable to address reconstruction of the country. Infrastructure was falling apart, and general unrest, crime, and poverty were rampant. Along comes a firebrand who latches on to the National Socialist party. Through demagoguery, a strong appeal to nationalistic pride & promises of making Deutschland great again, he is elected to power. He creates his own police group <Brown Shirts> and rebuilds the military for nationalistic purposes. Germany then falls under the spell of Nazism.

Sounds familiar to me.
Now, I voted for President Trump. And if Mr. Biden is the nominee for the Democrats, I may have to sit this one out.

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Based on how close they are to realizing that they are losing the argument at hand.

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Too much corporate media influence and social media indoctrination.

ROTUS Level 4 July 30, 2020
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Intellectual laziness.

Tarpon Level 7 July 29, 2020
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LOVE YOURSELVES
It's the right thing to do...

Christianity is the enemy to humankind, stating that this species is "bad rubbish" and deserving to be thrown into the fire.
It's tantamount to the Jews agreeing Hitler was right to throw them into incinerators.

Zteph Level 7 July 27, 2020

necrosis

@idoidoido

Maybe if you knew what the bible taught you could remove your own wrong thinking. You've listened to people.
I would never ever follow what you describe. Sounds like Allah, Muhammad.
What I .love about Jesus is called truth, no lie, nothing hidden.
Everything is hidden on this earth, but often in plain sight.
So nobody can see it.
So many Christians like myself have Jesus to thank for all types of Salvation.
Sin is just a mess. See any messes lately?

@2FollowHim Yeah, I see a big mess. Christian Universities run by men who watch their wives [Becki Falwel] having sex with young men but teach others that sex outside of marriage is wrong. They obviously don't believe what they teach.

@Zteph Let's try to not throw the BABY out with the bathwater. Bathwater's dirty, Christianity fixes. You COULD find loads of THOSE accounts if you'd lose your extreme fixation on failures, those who sought, and GOT worldly acclaim.
It's about the Lord, Yehoshua in Hebrew who heals.

We ARE certainly in a big mess, yes? Can't see it yet?
Nancy Morgan hart has helpful videos. Pretty scary stuff seemingly coming down.

@Zteph That's for bible following Christians because marriage in Christianity is to be a UNION. Obviously this is rare, too much against it.
Remember everyone gets this life, right! The next isn't yours anymore.

@2FollowHim They got worldy acclaim because of Christians financing them.

It's tantamount to the Jews agreeing Hitler was right to throw them into incinerators.

@Zteph Vaguely. I mean, if you think about it, #Hitler was more merciful than the #Christian deity. Hitler had the decency to gas them or enrich mankind by using them for scientific experiments; either way, you weren't going to be tortured for eternity. It was either over quick or over soon enough; you could always kill yourself if it became unbearable and maybe society would benefit from the experimental surgery you were subjected to.

Hell, on the other hand, is the most pointless, cruel, sadistic creation imaginable. There are some very bad people out there I'd have no moral objection personally making beg for mercy in the last and longest moments of their life, but of all the most evil people I can think of, even if I believed they should be punished severely, for centuries if it was in my power even, I can't imagine throwing away the key and leaving them in torment forever. That's the height of sadism.

Hitler might have killed some people, but the Christian deity apparently thinks eternal torment that even death can't release one from is an appropriate punishment for a lifetime of mediocre faith and sexy thoughts about my neighbor. If that's their god, it makes perfect sense that Lucifer would rebel against Him. Maybe he was the good guy this whole time. #Lucifer never threatens to torture anyone for not being a Satanist. One would think an omniscient, omnibenevolent deity would at least have the decency to put the condemned out of their misery.

Kinda weird when you think about it, that Hitler is a better example of a moral human than the Christian deity. 🤔

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For years, the left and it's big media / pop culture / academia alliance has successfully orchestrated the illusion that most Americans were 100% on board with its ideas and agenda. That could not be farther from the truth. Thanks to talk conservative and legislate / vote otherwise Republicans, the majority was never much inspired to make its presence known. Trump changed that. The majority voted and created a giant shock to the elite's corrupt. system. This is what they are really upset about. And at the end of the say, who cares what they think?

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SJWs are really Hitler!

bastion Level 7 July 27, 2020
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What's the old saying, tell a lie often and long enough until the sheeples believe it?

angelo Level 8 July 27, 2020

Didn't Hitler say something just like that?

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Trump has the intellect of a child. Mis-defining the left is a pastime the RINGERS(Right-Wingers) do regularly just so they can carry on with a false narrative.
That's the problem with alternative sites to Youtube, they become a cesspit for every conspiracy theory, gun loving, republican that prefers to join Trump in the gutter rather than stick to the GOP principles before the Trump era.
Trump is in way over his head and has been from day one. He bumbles his way from one crisis to the next and all that is paramount in his mind is his ratings.
His supporters might say he's doing a great job but let's just say he could do better. Hopefully he'll be a one term blemish in Americas history, assuming America still exists in it's current form.

Nothing but ad hominem.

Trump derangement is a serious mental condition on both the left and the right.

The historical perspective is that the establishment is treating Trump as they treated Abraham Lincoln. It's a product of the same coastal elitism. Things got so bad that Lincoln had to have newspaper editors arrested because they were openly seditious. A backwoods lawyer and a Manhattan real estate developer are both an affront to the "refined" tastes of a supercilious establishment that us mostly vacuous.

Corporatism, globalism, and banksterism are not new. The same type of people that look to Europe and say why can't we be more like them were the plantation owners in the South. They have the same arrogance and pride in being above the average person. While the plantation owners were trying to be a cheap imitation of European landed nobility today the people who consider themselves elite are trying to imitate the European technocracy.

Most continental philosophy is grandiloquent and authoritarian. It has produced disaster after disaster. From Baron de Montesquieu, Voltaire, Jean-Jacques Rousseau and Denis Diderot and the French revolution to Marx and the communist revolution, on down to Hegel and the Nazis. More recently Jean Baudrillard, Jean-François Lyotard, Jacques Derrida and Michel Foucault have produced the abomination of post modernism. Yet child like Americans follow that lead because ego and an empty concept of sophistication.

@wolfhnd Trump derangement, another catchphrase soaked up by the masses, just like a gameshow.

@maxmaccc

Reversing the ad populum fallacy is a fallacy onto itself and isn't an argument. It is a cryptic appeal to authority and is a type of an ad hominem as used here.

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Anyone i disagree with is an obama

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Some of the hatred may come from the television show 'The Apprentice'I believe some people built a loathing for Donald Trump that has never gone away because of that show also there is a fifth column working against America TDS plays into that very well. The comparison to Hitler certainly has to do with nationalism, these days it seems to be considered de rigeur to love ones country if it is western' and nobody can deny that Trump loves America

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They see him as an evil RW Capitalist...
That's enough for LW numpties to make the comparison.

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The left always accuses their rivals of what they're guilty of themselves.

shortd Level 1 July 26, 2020

And the right does not?

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Thanks to the influence of people of a certain hat size, they have been taught that Hitler and the NS were the worst people in world history, so "Hitler" or "Nazi" is the strongest insult they can think of. It doesn't make any sense if you look at it any deeper than that; of course they would agree with many of the National Socialists' ideas themselves.

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Because Hitler was white they use this as a perfect excuse to try to extrapolate the idea that whites are bad and evil when the truth is that there would be no civilization without them. Of course they hate civilization because they would prefer the law of tooth and claw with no law so that they could then have anarchy and might makes right instead of civilization. Kind of the exact way Hitler thought. This way they could steal what you have, have any type and variety of sex they might like and make life miserable for you and your family. Same stuff communist have always done under other excuses for a better world that is in reality always worse. Red China and Soviet Russia come to mind for starters.

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Nazi/Hitler is just a label carelessly thrown on Trump by people who hate him. It's a childish tactic people use for shock value and attention. I'm guessing about 1 in every 1000 people truly think there's a legitimate comparison, and the other 999, whether they like Trump or not, know what this is really all about.

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It's projection. The love to feel that they are real sjws. It makes them feel like they are powerful and anything thing they do in the "good fight" in okay. Also because t5hey don't reaally understand who and what Hitler was

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Yea, But Obamas father and him were communist. TRUMP 2020 was and is not........yea, but Obama is so ugly and uncoordinated he can't get no chicks....olololololo

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I picked [alleged] censoring of the press and social media. But, also see [alleged] demonization of specific U.S. ethnic groups.

As far as media, FOX news sticks out, among the sea of MSM and social media, as being the only one that gives most of it's time to conservative view points. Especially when comparing the difference in how Obama and Trump have been portrayed. So, the majority rules the flow of information. It's not uncommon to view them as unbiased.

I don't think those that rely on MSM and social media realize that these sources lean left. I actually didn't realize how far left they lean, or that there was any bias in social media, until Trump took office. Trump has frequently berated MSM and sometimes even FOX for portraying him in any negative light. "Lamestream" and "fake" and "slipping".

So, ill relations with the (percieved unbiased) press can be twisted as looking like you only want praise which can then be seen as FOX is his "propaganda machine"... Dictator.

As far as his [alleged] demonization of specific ethnic groups: I don't recall him speaking badly of any US ethnic group, but he has frequently spoken badly of illegal immigrants. I've always disliked the way he talks about how Mexicans are all drug addled rapists. I can see how that can be looked at as a generalization of all Mexicans or Latinos. So, lining up "propaganda machine" next to "building a wall" and you have a nice combination for a Dictator. (Not to mention his love of our Military, show of force, law and order, and loyalty to only "true" Republicans)

I would like to add that like him or hate him I dislike the casual way MSM negatively portrays him. Literally everything he does is wrong in their eyes. What's worse is that focusing on how "horrible" he is doesn't actually solve any issues. All it does is clog up the flow of information. I shouldn't have to watch two different view points on the same story and have to figure it out myself. More facts. Less commentary.

Lots in there I agree with, but I would take issue with the wildly popular, but false idea that ever Trump described Mexicans as “drug addled rapists.” It never happened.

Trump correctly pointed out that the masses pouring across the border include criminals, rapists and drug dealers. A perfectly legitimate and truthful comment.

@GeeMac You're right, my bad for the embellished way I put that. I was thinking more in the mindset of how he's portrayed on Twitter and other social media instead of what he actually said. I do try not to write that way. Which is why I'm usually pretty wordy. Still working in that lol

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Because the left always project to push their agendas.

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