After four years of anger and outrage towards Trump and his supporters, Democrats appear likely to win both the Presidency and the Senate (or maybe) while retaining control of the House. While an upcoming topic will focus on specific policy and constitutional ramifications of this dramatic change in political power, this topic is more about how Biden/Harris supports feel about finally getting to drive the car.
We all have seen countless posts and comments online professing that Trump is a dictator, fascist, and even a reincarnation of Hitler. Many have a hard time thinking of even one thing that Trump did that could be considered good. Do you think that this anger, even hatred, toward Trump will drive how aggressively Democrats will enact policy changes?
Is it "Payback Time"?
The better question to ask is what will be policy within the GOP with Trump gone? I can tell you now what it will be. Back to business as usual. All the neoconservatives will file back in and take their place arguing that this election result will mean Trump and his ideas were discredited. Back to foreign war, unfettered trade, and uncontrolled immigration. I no longer have a political party anymore with the defeat of Trump. The Republican party had a chance to get it right and reform, and that chance is gone. The Dems, with crypt keepers and vampires like Joe at the helm have nothing to offer me. It's time to move on. Create a new party. Because we will find no room for ourselves after this election.
When all the legal dust settles, regardless who wins, one things for certain, the Republicans are going to continue to be demonized.
Considering the sensational nature of MSM and social media, I'm unsure how accurate of a representation of progressives are, based on online speculation. Still, after the announcement of a Biden win, things have already gotten heated.
I'm right leaning, and voted for Trump. So, I can only guess these few examples by MSM and social media is an indication of things to come.
BURN DOWN THE REPUBLICAN PARTY
AOC AND LEFT TWITTER LIST
It would seem allys not deemed progressive enough will be given closer look at The Lincoln Project is taking some heat online as well.
THE LINCOLN PROJECT WAS A GIANT GRIFT
I'm unsure how much more "revenge" is needed considering conservatives have been getting plenty since the day Trump won, 4 years ago. Most notably, this year, has been particularly awful. Still, maybe I'm wrong, and cooler heads will prevail.
As for policy change, I think stating that they will aggressively promote their policy because of anger against Trump is giving Trump too much power. As well, the notion of dismantling the previous presidents contributions has consistently been Trump's stump. As such, it's not surprising that Trump supporters would see the same possibility in their opposition. After all, we easily see in other that which we see in ourselves. But while there will be some dismantling of policy (namely Executive Orders) that Democrats don't like from Trump, I feel their policy will be pushing a Pro-Democrat platform, not a Anti-Trump platform... even when sometimes those two will coincide.
Biden is consistently sending out a signal of working together, of working for both those that voted for him and those against. In the short term, there will be a justifiable catharsis from Biden supporters. But in the long term, if the democratic leadership promotes and demonstrates a desire to work to the future and towards unity and with those that voted for them and against, I feel that that rancor and vitriol will be short lived.
It will never be forgiven for some but it will be soon forgotten by all.
It seems that which ever side you're on it is apparent that at least 90 million voters are morons. One side wants to make them irrelevant and the other side won't be satisfied until they're punished- not just re-educated but held accountable and punished for daring to interfere with the "vision of the anointed."
I voted yes because they will try. It will be a waste of time of course but that never stopped them before. Look at the last 4 years of money and time spent trying to be a thorn in Trump's side based on manufactured hatred. If you are a Conservative and or a Republican, you know for a fact that Donald Trump has done more to further our agenda and kept more campaign promises than any other President in our lifetime regardless of party affiliation. Trump may go down but he still furthered the party. Retained Senate control and picked up seats in the House. In other words, Joe Biden may have one the Presidency but he will be just as weak and inaffectual as he has always been. At least he is consistent I guess.
I have a feeling that it is going to be influential but 1 of two things will go on:
I guess I'm overly optimistic. But I've been having a weird feeling peace between the parties may be possible.
I never was so much pro Trump as pro America. It's troubled me to see my neighbors fearing homelessness and bankruptcy and children going hungry, seeing angry Marxist mobs ripping monuments apart, burning cities, threatening and occasionally killing people.
It seemed Left wing politicians were cheering this on and forcing it by policies set in place just to make "Orange Man" look bad for petty spite. I have read about what Marxists do to dissidents when they take over. Spent the whole summer in tears. Weeping for my nephews and niece who might never grow up but die through guns or starvation. I believed they would kill us before the year ended.
The vindictiveness and gloating over everyone else's misery by Leftist trolls on forums has been pretty sickening too. Making a bigger rupture than previously existed.
Trolls have been checking onto Right wing sites to laugh at the emotional pain brought on by prolonged loneliness from lockdown that leftist trolls are apparently immune to. Need for human connection must be a right wing thing. These trolls love isolating and would prefer to never interact with humanity again except through computer screens.
Exactly like the alt right incel community they despise. Which is pretty funny.
Mocking fears of homelessness which those smug, wealthy, white color elites obviously aren't facing.
Constantly logging onto sites they hate reading just so they could laugh and gloat at others' misery. Pretty mean spirited. Vindictive I guess since they were gloating over people about to become homeless. All because the trolls don't like Trump.
And threats of violence against all us "racists." Why are we racists? Because "Orange Man Racist So U Racist." Covert and overt death threats. Telling us when they invade our towns if we don't let them kill us we'll do life in prison. Many of us are not even white. So sick of this!
This is why many of us on the Right and some Moderates are angry. Why we don't trust Leftists, view them as threats, even struggling to see them as humans. Trolls are what we have been dealing with all through lockdown. Not necessarily typical Leftists.
But most Leftists are not trolls. Or members of Antifa. It's unjust to blame all Democrat voters for the bad behaviors of a fringe minority. Or what those they elected have done.
I say to let the courts decide. However suspicious things are we should accept their decision. I expect to see Biden sworn in come January.
Hopefully our next election will be conducted differently to prevent suspicion. Far more important than having "our man" in the White House.
I hate riots and just want the "peaceful protesters" to take their mostly peaceful violence elsewhere. At least in my state self defense from home invaders is legal. If any Democrats get sick of being terrorized I'll be glad to drum up a relief fund. Though evacuation may be the only smart course of action.
I take comfort even some Democrats yelled at AOC for tweeting McCarthy and Nixon type rants. Sick of the meanness and drama. In addition to Republicans gaining Congress, even the Democrats who have joined are more reasonable.
(I'm sure some on the Right troll too. Of course, since I don't usually read comments for left wing articles I read I wouldn't know.)
Literally everything that the left accuse conservatives and Trump supporters of doing and thinking is what they are actually doing and thinking. I expect their vindictiveness to know no bounds and if they are left unchecked I expect the reeducation camps and mass graves that were the trademarks of the left throughout the twentieth century.
The not so intelligent intelligence community will have more influence and as Chucky Schumer has pointed out they are a vengeful lot of losers. Combined with the modestly insane management in Silicon Valley who knows what stupidity they will dream up. Certainly they seem to lean towards a social credit dystopian system, perhaps even tentatively aligned with China. The people who are not worried are fools.
I have absolutely no idea. I think the more interesting question is one I would direct to Democratic supporters on this site. How many people on the left think payback is warranted, and what would it look like?
Personally, I think payback would be the most childish, immature action Democrats could take. It would reveal them to be liars in the face of virtually everything they say they stand for. And talk about a slippery slope....you know they aren't going to be in power forever.
I voted " None" because no one expects Biden to do anything meaningful . Despite the accusations of Communism, nothing he has ever signed has looked anything like communism.
When 09/11/2001 terrorist attacks happened, just Biden shrugged and complied with the war hawks while socialist Sanders was shrieking against all retaliatory military revenge over unverified data.
Either way, it does not matter because America is smarter now than it was 20 years ago.
When Pence made up a lie about 09/11/2001 to justify a 4th war , everyone immediately called him out on his lies. " Fool me once, shame on you. Fool me twice and I can not be fooled again " -GWB.
They have got the mandate to push every anti-American policy they can dream up. They won by nefarious criminal and evil endless coups against the majority and they do not represent the majority. It will be non-stop to catch up with England and Canada to dissolve the rights in the constitution and replace them with weakness and carnival side-show criminality against what we stood for under Trump.
The demonic nature of Democrat activism is obvious, demons never stop, are never satisfied, never contend. Also brainwashed people are unable to any honest self reflection or reason. With the 'enemy' (Trump) gone, they will resort to vicious revanchism because the only 'ethics' they know is punishing people for the 'crime' of looking after their own interests.
Republicans picked up seats in the House and looks like they held the Senate. So not all is lost and the payback will be able to be contained some. If it was a pure blue wave.... absolutely I would expect the democrats to go to the extremes they were promising...... packing the courts, end the Senate filibuster, adding states..... basically anything to cement power in their hands and never lose it even if it destroys the country in the process.
The Democrats, with Harris as their candidate and Biden as their face (certainly not their mouthpiece) probably won the presidency but not the Senate. Their problem is the house proposes but the Senate dispose, so to speak. The Democrats can only do what the Republicrats allow them to do, so the much touted social policies which the Bernieites were hoping to get will not materialize. However, the Pentagon, Intelligence, and Wall Street will make a killing during the Harris presidency. War, war, war, regime changes such as occurred in the Ukraine, the Middle East, and America will be ramped up. Oh, I almost forgot; the Plandemic, expect it to get much worse, lockdown after lockdown, never ending lockdowns, and finally mandatory vaccinations or else. I I am wrong in my predictions, you may treat me as any false prophet deserves . . . collect some stones, big rocks or little pebbles, and stone me.