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Is it time to stop using the word "Racist"? That is, if the word has so many different meanings depending on the context, speaker/author's demographic or the political view of the audience, does using such an ambiguous word create more harm than good? Either way, how can we become more clear?

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Isn’t this community against censorship and restricting free speech?

Momo Level 3 July 25, 2019

They were talking about banning it in society...

Yes, irony is an extra bonus 🙂

@Dmwils That's what I am talking about... Isn't this community against censorship and restricting free speech, in society?

@Dmwils Do you think banning words you don't like, on a societal level, is all right?

@Don_Provolone Yes. I am not confused about that. Don’t most fans and people commenting here believe in free speech?

@Momo >> That's what I am talking about... Isn't this community against censorship and restricting free speech, in society?

But just to clarify, we can still TALK about Censorship though, right??

@jwhitten right-o. Since we are literally talking about censorship right now, I’d answer ‘yes’ to your question. 😉

@jwhitten that’s actually a good topic to discuss. What, if anything, should be censored?

@Momo We could censor censorship...

@Don_Provolone why wouldn’t it? Ideas can start small and gain traction. That is the point of discussing them on sites like these. It is dim and shortsighted to presume you know otherwise.

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All verbal and sign language communications should be banned. Also ban any further books, movies or communications at all. Then start burning or destroying all past communications. I think everyone will be in a safe place. God bless the left and their genius.🤮

@Don_Provolone ok, I can go with that, although they are great comedic relief from serious discussions.

@Don_Provolone very true, they are so convinced the world is flat that they know they can convince you they know what they are talking about. It's almost like watching a Democratic debate.

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Seems like this is true of most things. We use words outside their meaning and we create a society that has little respect for language or the consepts that language is trying to communicate. We use stuff wrong, we use stuff so wrong we break it. THIS is why we can't have nice things lol.

Few people are true to their word anymore because the words coming out of their mouths don't have much meaning in the first place. Ban a word, it's the mentality behind how we use it driving us in the wrong direction and we will use any word you replace it with wrong and break that to, eventually.

It seems like philosophy has a lot of questions and answers we need, but somehow philosophy has been largely discredited as a practical way of creating change.

"the study of the fundamental nature of knowledge, reality, and existence, especially when considered as an academic discipline."

Not sure how most of the questions, answers, and perspectives here even exist without a strong philosophical thought, it's like saying you don't believe in water while ignoring how much water you consist of.

How do you keep yourself hydrated while discrediting the one thing that can hydrate you?

The answer for me is simple, if we all show each other the respect we expect others to show us then there is little room for name calling, which is usually the intent behind this sort of descriptor. If your having a discussion about how someone is racist, you don't need to call them a racist. Same can be said for "victim", when people bring up these words they are never concerned with what the other person thinks, if the person is a victim or a racist. They are looking at something they don't like (an action, a belief, behavior or maybe personality trait) and they are saying because I don't like this thing (and probably don't understand it or want to) I've decided to categorize it as immoral so that I can proceed to ignore the details.

If both sides where not doing this, at least one side would be making significant progress. Instead we are not just fighting one battle but we are creating multiple small wars going on between opposing sides without a clear understanding of what or who we are fighting for.

The problem is the confusion, now we have a mass generalization of right and wrong battling individual perceptions and struggles wrapped up in the same battle with different definitions. All because it's too difficult to have uncomfortable conversations. Banning one word will only lead to more band words, and more of the same problems surrounding those words.

For instance, we could all stop arguing about what is or isn't sexist if we just thought of it as normal for a woman to say "please don't do that" and without questioning why, the other persons natural instinct was to be respectfull of the womans wishes without questioning why she finds the behavior respectful or disrespectful.

We are so busy trying to call everyone out on their shit all the time, but rairly do I see or experience people being respectful of each other without trying to alter the persons boundaries. It's like this ultimate game of cat and mouse where we show surface level respect while trying to get away with anything we can under the other persons nose but also under our own moral radar. We end up treating others this way because we expect it from them and the cycle continues while we justify ourselfs as right and moral and the other as less than.

Oxfret Level 7 July 25, 2019

That's an awful lot of perspective used to ruminate about people who don't have any.

@jwhitten maybe I've just called myself out on a lot of shit.

Being true to oneself, reveals the falsehood of others. You deff touched on many concepts I have been waiting for someone to put in comprehensive writing, due to my severe lack of motivation in doing so myself. I've also recently developed some sort of chronic vocab block when attempting to construct a comment that successfully expresses a thought of mine..

Could I be due for a break from the chaos...? nah! kidding...yah deff yah

@DesireNoDesires I feel you, my processing power definitely comes and goes at times Haha.

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I don’t support banning much of anything. The word has already lost all meaning and therefore all the power it once held.
My friends and I constantly call statements and each other racist and have for the past few years specifically to rob the word of its moral power to condemn.
To most progressives I am a racist. Yet I have never harmed, disrespected or denied anyone based solely on the color of their skin.
I am white. My parents are white. My children are white. My wife is white. I am proud of the contributions my ancestors have made to the world.
Many others whose ancestors did not look like me or mine have also contributed much to the world and they should take pride in that and themselves.
So call me what you like. Maybe they can start with super duper mega racist.

Not to mention they're appropriating our Internet culture and our computer culture and our nerd culture and our Patriarchy culture and our automobile culture and our television culture-- and probably a lot of other cultures too.

@jwhitten racist

@Boardwine Misogynist.

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Nope. It's time to take it upon ourselves to be more resilient when implicated by the word and recognize all of the complex meanings of the word.

Sure, like bigot. Or bigotry. Bigoted... Bigotting. Bigotist. Bigoteer. Bigotalia. Bigoteur. Bigotuse. Bigotti.

@jwhitten "...Bigoteur. Bigotuse. Bigotti." Biscotti!! I have to get me some of that!

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The left has unfortunately succeeded making what once was a general and common definition within our cultural language, into a toxic weapon.

No. They really haven’t but they’ve succeeded in making lots of people “think” so.
Keep using all words and terms correctly and don’t let them get inside your head.

@Bay0Wulf oh I know what you mean, and personally agree with you..I guess what I was suggesting is that it appears to be affecting a substantial portion of the country...uhgg

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sure the word racist has lost its meaning...I've taken to simply calling leftists jew haters instead of racist or anti-semites. works for me.

iThink Level 9 July 25, 2019

Good approach. "Racism" has several sub-categories..

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Only if "Islamophobia" is banned first.

Amen

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at first the word "racist" was latched onto by the socialists to use as a way to shame white people and it really implied mal-treatment of Black people.
I think it's more to the point and effective to point out that so many leftist ideas and policies were in actuality acts of hate toward Black People first and others as well.
Examples would be the whole abortion thing was started by a hater of Blacks of the first order - her name was Margaret Sanger.
Another example would be all the hateful rhetoric about Jews and Israel itself. Rather than calling the leftist "racists" just get to the point and call them out as Jew haters...that's what they are.
Yet another example is the Political Lefts encouragement of poor and destitute Hispanic people to trek with children in hand across more than a thousand miles of bad country to illegally enter USA. They certainly do NOT have the well being of those hispanics in mind - they are doing this for political expediency. The poor hispanic children and adulst are nothing more than fodder for the lefts political aspirations. So they are the true haters of "brown skinned refugees". Call them what they are. Haters of poor brown skinned refugees. These things I say are objectively true. I feel no regret for calling a Jew hater a Jew hater, a hater of Black persons a Black hater...etc.

iThink Level 9 July 25, 2019

Blame and Shame are all the Left really has to fight with. And piss buckets and bricks. But mostly shame and piss buckets.

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I don't worry about it, it's the liberals word...they can't compete one complete sentence without the word racist in it.

Dmwils Level 7 July 25, 2019

Them Southern Democrats are really racists. They're always going on about the N-word and stuff. But as hard as I try, I still can't figure out what's wrong with saying NASCAR??

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Racism
Merriam Webster - racial prejudice or discrimination [merriam-webster.com]

Lexico/Oxford - Prejudice, discrimination, or antagonism directed against someone of a different race based on the belief that one's own race is superior. [lexico.com]

Bing - prejudice, discrimination, or antagonism directed against a person or people on the basis of their membership in a particular racial or ethnic group, typically one that is a minority or marginalized. - promotion of the minority class over the majority within it's own definition seems prejudicial.

Prejudice - preconceived opinion that is not based on reason or actual experience. - I highlight this because there is group going around saying that people who support the results of IQ data as it pertains to race are committing "scientific racism" [en.wikipedia.org] (ex. Stephan Molyneux, Charles Murray, ...)

Further from MW - "Racism appears to be a word of recent origin, with no citations currently known that would suggest the word was in use prior to the early 20th century... Dictionaries are often treated as the final arbiter in arguments over a word’s meaning, but they are not always well suited for settling disputes."

First, I move to erase discrimination as part of the definition. If I was making an accurate historical drama based on ancient Japan, I would categorically discriminate against non-Japanese for the cast. I would not consider that racism.

So I would support a modified Oxford definition of - Prejudice, or antagonism directed against someone of a different race based on the belief that one's own race is superior.

I think having discussions on racism is healthy. And, the misuse of the label identifies people who are tools.

Some people just aren't too smart. And rather than having two or three words which mean similar things but are a little bit different, they'd rather have just one word that they can haul out and throw at anybody. You know the left is big on equal opportunity-- bigotry.

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Banning anything implies that one has authority over it, and who can claim authority over a word? Or a book? I certainly believe people should use the word correctly. But many do not. I can try to educate them, until that process becomes overwhelming. Then I have to walk away.

Be careful giving them access to the dictionary, they might smack you over the head with it.

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Should be. BAnned as a hate word just like the dreaded "N" word

dnarc Level 5 July 25, 2019

Yeah, I know what you mean. Lots of racists just come right out and say it in the open just like it was no big thing. NASCAR. Just like that. Next thing you know they're going to ban DRAG Racing because it offends trannies or something. But I think they all use manual trannies anyway so it might not be a problem.

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The word isn’t ambiguous, it has a specific meaning. The fact that leftists use it against anyone who disagrees with them is immaterial.

Btw, it’s been abused so often that using it is now meaningless.

Bonez Level 6 July 25, 2019

Like “fascism.” It’s just Com-speak for “we don’t like it politically.”

“Racism” continues this. It is Left-speak for when a “fascist” doesn’t like anything at all about anybody who doesn’t look exactly like them.

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No, use it with its correct meaning.
Allow the others who use it incorrectly and change the meaning as many times as they change their gender to continue their asininity. Eventually, they'll try something else.

The trouble is, words don't in general HAVE have a "correct" meaning. That's a naive idea. Words are like people: they are born, they thrive, and very often they fall out of use and die. During that time a word can be adopted into a language, change meaning and usage, then arise in another guise. Or expand. It's a kind of evolution, but (as with evolution in animals) it's going on all around you, too slowly to see.

Dictionaries are not really authoritarian deciders of how words are used. All it takes is a look at a 200 year-old dictionary to relieve you of that fallacy. Or a trip across a major ocean between two cultures which supposedly speak the same language, but quite often differently. Dictionaries REPORT how words are used. But that changes. 200 years ago would they have recognized "pilot, dashboard, driver, computer"? Sure, but not as we use them today. in 1895 you could be electrocuted only in the electric chair, not by your toaster. And so on.

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The thing about racism is people are over-using the word, expanding or rewriting the definition of the word to the point where it becomes overly vague, contradictory, and confusing, and applying the word to people who generally don't deserve it as an intellectually lazy political smear.

It's been repeated so often, and to so many people who don't deserve it, we've basically reached the point where the child has cried wolf too many times when there was no wolf, and now when someone cries wolf and there actually is a wolf, nobody believes them.

You also approach semantic satiation after a point. For those who aren't too familiar with linguistics, semantic satiation is what happens when a term gets repeated so often it essentially becomes meaningless.

You are quite right, my children use the word 'racist' as a proxy for 'bad'.

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Regardless of whether or not I agree with the individual using that word, I still think people should be able to speak freely and use whatever words they wish to convey their point(s). Same is true with that other "dreadful" R word (retard). From a personal stance, I don't often use either of those words.

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No we will need it again one day. After all the childish subversive leftists stop throwing it around like a cheap yo-yo!

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Banning a word that is used incorrectly does not make sense to me. Being born in the human race, with blue eyes and most of my life living in Southern California, I laugh when called racist. I will admit I don't like insects and reptiles, they carry germs and bite. Have had co-workers and friends from almost every nation in the world, so when called "racist" by someone who has trouble pronouncing three syllable words, I realize they do not know me and it is they who are "prejudice" and need to mature to hold a conversation with. That's just me tho'.

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I don't know why we should ban it. Especially considering the fact that it gives half the country such a vicarious thrill every time they think of it and makes 'em happier than a pig in shit every time they get to call someone a racist. Why take all of their fun away. Besides, they're going to be mighty disappointed come election day, we ought leave' em with a little something they can do for fun, you know?

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I suggest that we ban any and all "banning" regarding to anything psychologically/spiritually/metaphysically related. Those areas are the jurisdiction of "Natural Law"

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Fuck competitive running.

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That would be racist against English speaking non-racists and all "white females"

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Words are an expression of a thought. Spoken or written, doesn't matter. You can't think without words and vice versa. Therefore censorship is an attack on your ability to think. It makes you a puppet! Not even a slave, a fucking puppet!!!

LukeGP Level 7 July 25, 2019
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No. The use of the word defines the person using it.

Facci Level 7 July 25, 2019
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