Respectfully, I don't think that's what was said. I think they were expressing the worrisome nature of how and why unwanted pregnancies are so much more prevalent in some area's than others. Why it seems like certain groups are almost encouraged not to procreate.

There's history behind why these clinics sprouted first in certain area's and why they continue to be most prevalent there. In the video they mentioned that in some area's, more black babies were aborted than born - there are racist people in this world who see this as a positive, to decrease the black population all together. Until there are none left. Depopulation has been used against many minority groups in different forms, trying to "get rid" of them eventually (e.g. forced sterilization of Uighur women in China was in the news just this week). For some people it may look as if these clinics just found an easier way than to do it by force; convince the women to do it themselves. Prevent the people from forming families, building communities, having people to fall back on when they stand up for something.

Because the problem is not the baby, the problem is the circumstances that made the baby unwanted. Sometimes it's the sins of their father that kills them, that he raped the woman. Sometimes it's financial issues. Maybe we should start empowering those women in ways that they can become financially independent and successful. And put more responsibility on men to not rape. Abortions don't increase the chances of getting a good job, more than using appropriate anti-conception would have done the job.

In fact, more than once now I've seen men act casual about rape because "she can just get an abortion". More than once I've seen people be very inconsiderate of rape victims, claiming that since they didn't abort it the rape wasn't so very bad after all. As if abortion is easily done and harmless to boot. Like a condom would be. But the men involved would never volunteer to put a condom on, themselves. They're too good for that, but they find that women are just right to get surgical procedures done to clean up their mess. Maybe just arranging for more abortions isn't a long-term solution in empowering black women.

I worry about the women having the abortions. Abortions are harmful for their bodies, and repeated abortions can make a woman infertile. Unwanted pregnancies happen, but when they are more prevalent in some groups than others it makes me worry that perhaps there is a bigger rape problem in that group, for example. Or that they are somehow being convinced that their bodies are "simply" vessels which can be filled and emptied at will. That conception and pregnancy is not worth noting. It's a very objectifying way to look at themselves, in my opinion. I think that if men had the superpower to grow and birth babies, they would not be so quick to be convinced or to exclaim that it's actually not impressive and what they produce are just meaningless clumps of bloody tissue. Pretty sure they'd be rubbing it in our faces.

I didn't hear in the video that they agreed that "abortion services are a bad thing", maybe I missed it. I would agree that abortion services can be an important tool in a woman's independence, as it's true that there are places where women are bound down exactly by those kinds of tactics. But also, the overuse of abortions completely disregards male responsibility in causing these abortions (if they did not rape and used protection in consensual sex, there would be no abortion) and the woman's view on herself (that an abortion is meaningless and harmless and a reasonable pay-off for some unprotected penetrative sex which we all know cannot satisfy most of us, while actually those abortions are much more harmful to us women and our babies both physically and mentally by a long shot). It worries me that so many women prefer having surgical procedures all by themselves, rather than request equal cooperation in sexual responsibility from the males. Do they view themselves as equal, carrying the pleasures and the burdens of it all together? Or do they already know the men don't care enough so, this way will do too. I've even been told "don't be a prude".

Abortion makes rape a "lesser" crime in the minds of many men and even in the minds of many women. I am still confused as to why the responsibility of anti-conception lies nearly solely with the woman, anyway. Especially considering how painful and invasive many methods are compared to the condom. And why so many men feel that using condoms themselves would somehow emasculate them. It seems that they take more pride and pleasure in conception (or at least, being the cause of conception) than women are. That they get to enjoy their worth as a man in such a manner, but women don't. I guess that's easy if they can literally walk away the next morning and never think about it again.

Abortion was supposed to be a tool for women to save themselves from a desperate situation, it is not anti-conception. And women don't conceive little pieces of trash (as some clinics make it seem by literally throwing the remains in trashcans afterwards). Women are more special than that, so are our wombs and babies. They should be loved more than they are now. In my opinion.

@Fragment31 You're responding solely to abortions that follow rape, which of course is a problem, but please lets not pretend that we actually live in a rape culture. Because rape is a crime and it's prosecuted. Mere accusation of rape can destroy a man even if did no such thing. And you're shifting all blame on men. But considering that most rapes that happen (sorry don't know exact numbers) are more opportunistic than planned, I think that women should carry some responsibility and I'm not talking about dressing provocatively, rather the attitude. If you act like a victim you are more likely to become a victim.
I fully agree that sexual education and free condom access would do wonders for pretty much everybody. But regardless of all the factors every single abortion clinic is complete win, because it still offers the last resort. And frankly black people are not in danger of dying out considering they're the 3rd largest demographic worldwide.
Conclusion, yes do offer education to both men and women, (preferably without first checking for their skin tone to match the desired shade). Don't blame a gender for the actions of a very small percentage of them (or if you do don't attack people who call muslims terrorists) and in the end of the day, abortion clinics are like any other business, they go where they're wanted and in this case they actually provide a much needed service, honestly it'd be much better to just go protest McDonalds they don't do anything positive.

@SoloBrez

If you think I am saying "we" live in a rape culture, I am fairly certain we are nowhere near each other and do not share the same culture so that's certainly not what I said. Mentioning facts about rape also does not make a rape-culture-accusation. Also, whether or not men feel bad about it does not change the fact that they themselves largely make up the numbers.

This is much like not daring to accuse terrorists of killing many people, because the accusation is so horrible. The accusation is not worse than the fact.

If you think that I am responding solely to rape related abortions, then you did not read/understand my post (fully). Please do so.

It was about the general view women have gotten of their bodies, also. That there are women who opt for surgical abortion rather than demanding the male wear a condom, because their own bodily safety and health is inferior to the males sexual pleasure. Additionally, I also mentioned that making abortion "cheap and plentiful" and encouraging it as a form of "anti-conception" (when it literally is only applicable after conception) actually creates a more dangerous and punishing environment for women in general, ánd for victims of rape after the fact.

Women cannot forever stay the "oldest " in context to men, always making allowances for they know not what they do. We are not men's collective mothers.

Weirdly, the most shocking part you never addressed - that it's already been known that depopulation of minority groups has been applied in the past. Perhaps give it some thought that it would be harmful for the black community if it were to shrink and shrink until there are actually no black people left. That actually, overloading black area's with abortion clinics could very well be motivated by racism. More-so than women saying that the number of such clinics should be equal across the country, regardless of skin tone.

Also, most rapes are not opportunistic. Most rapes are within the victims own circle, for example their own boyfriend, father, other male family, family friends or friends of their own, colleagues, teachers, religious leaders, etc. The mindset that the only "real" rape is stranger rape is actually an enormous burden on the majority of rape victims, who feel that they cannot speak out because they knew the perpetrator. It's another reason why some women struggle to come out with accusations - because they are accusing someone's son, someone's father, someone's brother, etc. They being ostracized from their own circle, because the people close to them cannot imagine that a "good man" would do such a thing. They are quickly seen as "attention seekers" and accused of themselves making false accusations.

I do not blame one gender solely, but in this context the rape cases that are relevant to what you brought up (abortion clinics) are the ones relating to abortion. In that exact context, it is fair to say that women are more likely to have a rape related abortion because they were raped by a man, than it is to say that those pregnancies that get aborted are caused by female on female rape. The argument that "women rape also" is disingenuous if you look at the numbers, and it's disingenuous in the context you've brought up.

And indeed, this education should be available to all regardless of their skin tone. Since you've said that, you perhaps also see that there may be underlying motivations to make these services much more available and encouraged in area's where the majority population is a certain skin color, rather than in other area's.

Finally... Women are allowed to say that rape-related abortions are generally committed from male unto female. Saying "women rape too!" feels like you're not fully understanding yet the violence and threat many other women find themselves in. I am happy to hear that you feel so egalitarian about it, however out of the many countries on this planet I think you'll find that the great majority of female rape victims will admit it was a male who did it.

I am actually doubly confused by your response. So if we exclude rape related abortions, what are the other reasons to abort? Didn't suit their timeline, their career? Don't feel like it? Changed their mind? Abortion became a thing out of necessity, but it seems to just be the fashionable choice now. Casually touting it as a solution for whenever you just don't wanna have a kid is actually supporting my point that it seems that women these days don't realize their own value, nor that of their offspring.

Like I said, if men had the superpower to conceive and birth babies I don't think they would let us convince them that it's nothing special at all and that all they conceived were inanimate blobs of curdled blood. I'm pretty sure they'd realize it's more than that, and rub it in our faces.

I too struggled with the Candice Owens affiliation in this video. I am grateful for this space to sort through my thoughts on it without worry about being judged in the process.

I don't completely write off Candice but I have a lot of reservations. It is a combination of questioning her statistics and questioning her ideology. I think I get what she is trying to do which - I think - is empower the Black community. I THINK that is her intention so I can't fault her for that. But her approach feels at times very counter-productive. My most personal issue with Candice is how she treated Blaire on their debate. I would have a lot of trouble trusting her if she didn't step up and take accountability for what I saw as unnecessarily (as in, she didn't need it to make her points) insensitive behavior. I don't think Candice is a total pawn for the right but I can't say I'm comfortable supporting her at this point.

That said though, do I have to support her in order to support Blexit? Is Blexit bigger than she? I like what I've seen of Brandon Tatum who is the other face of Blexit. Does it have to be all or nothing? Can I overlook my personal concerns about Candice and look at the movement, or is it impossible to separate the two because Candice has so much invested in the movement, being the literal face of it? Is it realistic or smart to mentally put that aside in favor of what the organization itself stands for?

Furthermore, I don't think it is necessary to agree with everything an organization stands for in order to get behind it. I still want to fact check some of the statistics that the guest mentioned in the video because there are stats out there that demonstrate the contrary.

And finally, I wonder if it's possible to support both Black Lives Matter and Blexit. Is that possible? Is that sensible? By "support" I don't just mean monetarily by the way. Are there things about both orgs worthy of supporting or are they inherently incompatible with each other?

What are your thoughts on his repeatedly saying he couldn't breathe though?

@Jenn6 Offenders lie. Violent offenders lie more, and if they can, they will lie and use trickery to continue their violent behavior. That's the first problem. As far as I know, he was not assaultive, but he was violently resisting, and that is 1) unlawful AF, and 2) the first sign of a pending assault. The of air needed to say "I can't breathe" is not much - it takes more to keep the blood adequately oxygenated. However, the American College of Emergency Physicians did a "white paper" on excited delirium syndrome in 2009 that is worth reading. It addresses the physical impact of violent exertion by criminals unlawfully resisting arrest when they are not in good enough shape to do so and have the load of drugs on board as Mr. Floyd did.

I strongly suspect that the training on the medical consequences of the fight was not what it should have been, and that the aftercare was thus not fast enough or vigorous enough - but we do not know that. I have not seen how fast medics were summoned; they might have been staged nearby and waiting until he was controlled. He was probably dying of a heart attack, as did Eric Garner. Watch the video of the Garner incident shot by his neighbor - it was about a minute encounter with about seconds of contact in the neck area, That contact was not a "chokehold", which is not a correct term or description - it was a leverage technique being used by a smaller cop to get Garner off his feet as he resisted his arrest.

Best guess: his body was running out of oxygen, but due to his own actions, not a result of the low level of force used to control him. Most of us are not in good enough shape to engage in and survive a strenuous fight of that nature. I used to be, but ... I am old and broken. I also would not resist arrest.