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Trump's judicial appointments

Trump has appointed hundreds of judges, many who are religious extremists. What impact will that have on the legitimacy of the US government for younger generations who are historically secular?

WilyRickWiles 8 June 18
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Don’t worry Ricky, when Bernie becomes president in 2032 he will only hire atheist and communist judges to reflect the true USA demographic...

Hanno Level 8 June 18, 2020
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Obviously nothing based off the most recent decisions but by all means continue to be frightened off the big bad old religious people. They're behind every bush just waiting to, um, ummmmm, talk about Hell or something.

Wake up and smell 2020. The days of the Religious Right ruining your fun are over. Now you have SJWs to tell you that sex, drugs, and rock n roll is bad and that "metal isn't inclusive enough" and want to cancel you for humor they don't like. I'd much rather have religious nuts tell me that my actions will send me to Hell rthan a bunch of sanctimonious little shits telling me if I still like Harry Potter in 2020 I am a bigot. Their SJW Hell on Earth is 10x worse than Dante's Inferno any day

...at least Satan produces good music like Led Zeppelin. These horrid little monsters gave us One Direction.

One is speech and one is law. Do you know the difference?

@WilyRickWiles Religion is speech not law just as social justice is a form of speech. Both are ideologies that people may adhere to. With me so far? Awesome.

Your religion and ideology MAY influence your decision but, talking specifics, the two justices brought by Trump actually voted FOR transpeople to be added to the Civil Rights bill. Last I saw from the Scary Old Religious Right they weren't exactly pro LGBTQ+ so I'm guessing its not really as big an issue as you want it to be.

@ThomasinaPaine One of the Supreme Court justices he appointed--not two. And he's appointed hundreds more in the greater judiciary.

@WilyRickWiles He's appointed hundreds and they are what? Bringing back the 10 Commandments? Repealing marriage equality?

Your complaint was about a president putting people into office another generation has to live with. I realize that the whole world has told you that its acceptable to be partisan and that hypocrisy is a good thing BUT you have to understand that there will be some people who don't just raise a pitchfork and agree.

All presidents put people on the bench other generations will have to live with. All presidents pretend they're putting the best candidate up when they're really trying to expend the influence of their own party. Your problem isn't with that but the fact that Trump got a few of his own in.

Console yourself with the fact that Obama got in much more and fundamentally shifted the officer corps of the Airforce and Navy so be content with that.

I'll never see a libertarian in office so I don't have the luxury of knowing I'll ever see my civil liberties return. You will at least get someone who will give you lots of pork spending and punish people you don't like so cheer up.

@ThomasinaPaine Judges who are more conservative than the public damage the legitimacy of government because the courts are an anti-democratic force. Trump has managed to fill the court with a historic number of his picks and they are a historically ideological cohort. Obama, in fact was blocked much of the time and made a historically small number of appointments.

@ThomasinaPaine You guys need to stop abusing that word libertarian. Take about projecting with the punishment talk.

@WilyRickWiles The public isn't of one mind. The public is made up of thousands of little communities who were give a constitutional right to self-govern--something I'm sure you don't care about but I do. I prefer a little freedom with my morning coffee.

But again, I doubt you would care if they judges were in agreement with you. This is just you being hypocritical because now you're affected by politics as usual instead of the team you hate being on the receiving end.

@ThomasinaPaine What part of a wall of separation between church and state don't you understand?

@ThomasinaPaine I'm sure you'll "avoid being hypocritical" when the black lives matters movement wins police reforms and the Democrats sweep the rest of the federal government in November.

@WilyRickWiles What part of "I'm not advocating for a theocracy" do you not understand? Where did I say we need religious tribunals?

What I implied is my disbelief that you are truly upset about a phantom religious presence or people secretly being partial in their judicial decisions. I believe you are upset because your particular team isn't the one doing it.

@ThomasinaPaine They're not being secret about it. And we'll have a better sense of their impact in a few years once the right starts litigating decisions by the Democrats. They will impact policy for decades to come.

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Younger historical?

govols Level 8 June 18, 2020

What?

@WilyRickWiles

How are the younger generations historically determined to be secular? Won't that remain to be seen?

Traditionalism is on the rise, even--some say especially--among the younger generations.

@govols Younger (note the -er) meaning, e.g. 18-40 year olds. The millennials and gen Z-ers. [pewforum.org]

That thing you said about traditionalism and younger people is no more than a meme. As you and Trump say, "people are saying it," but all the evidence is to the contrary.

@WilyRickWiles It's more complicated than that:
[goglobalconsultinggroup.com]

They go to Church more than millennials, don't do as many drugs, dislike tattoos, are more frugal than millennials, are less risk averse BUT they are also more concerned with issues of race and are content with a multi-racial world and are of the opinion that global warming is real.

In other words they're pretty easy going and more balanced than their predecessors.

@ThomasinaPaine I would describe them are more intense (in the sense of the qualities that millennials have due to social trends) versions of millennials.

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What do you mean by religious extremists?

Xtra Level 8 June 18, 2020

They are evangelical Christians who are against gay rights and abortion rights and support racial and gender hierarchies.

@WilyRickWiles There are more black people who attend church today than white people. LOL do you get your information from real life or Facebook?

I think our friend here hasn't left his basement since 1994 if he thinks "evangelicals" still run the show.

@ThomasinaPaine Have you been paying attention to Trump's judicial appointments?

@WilyRickWiles Yes, but I don't think you've been paying attention to how they vote.

@ThomasinaPaine Like I said above--the issue is more with the hundreds he's appointed in the greater judiciary. Not one who voted the other way one time.

@WilyRickWiles It's YOUR issue based off of the fact that you think its right that your team can legislate from the bench and no one else gets to. It isn't the principle that people should get new justices every year that bothers you. It's the fact that any other team got some in at all.

So its rather hard to sympathize with that when I know you wouldn't care if old ass Nancy Pelosi put in people that the 13-14 year olds today have to live with. You just don't like Trump the way I don't like hypocrites.

@ThomasinaPaine Uh no. And I'm not a fan of Pelosi but she wouldn't be part of the process. It happens in the Senate.

@WilyRickWiles I was making that off the assumption that she will run for office--that's how she's acting. Biden won't make it all the way to the Oval Office. It's office he has dementia--and no I don't intend to make fun of him. It's a terrible thing to have a life like his and lose your mind. Its terrible for anyone but that poor man is on the road to not remembering his time in the WH, his kids, his wife. It's terrible.

@ThomasinaPaine She's too old herself.

@WilyRickWiles Since when has that stopped anyone? Trump is old. Biden is old. Hillary is old. They're all old.

I don't want anyone in office who wants the job. A lottery and term limits would keep power hungry assholes out and truly represent the people of a nation.

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