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If you are White or Asian, and smart, do universities discriminate against you? Do you get preferential enrollment, or are you 'looked over' for less intelligent blacks and hispanics?

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DeplorableToo 7 Aug 13
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Well, my personal story is that I was accepted into a certain university fucking Minnesota and once I turned in my FAFSA, they saw how much my parents make and took away my academic scholarships.

Even though I was the one paying for my education.

In the end I am now attending a private university (with my many scholarships) for less than the university that told me two days before I graduated high school that they weren't giving me my scholarship anymore.

The U didn't discriminate against me because I'm white but rather because my parents have jobs.

Imastel Level 6 Aug 14, 2020
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Universities discriminate against Whites and tell us they do any we say thank you

B1967 Level 7 Aug 13, 2020
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The differences between races are smaller than the differences inside races...

In other words... there is bigger variation among white people intelligence... than the differences between white and black intelligence.
This applies to all attributes... not just intelligence but athletic ability etc...etc...

This is important to understand.

You can claim that blackS ran faster that whites on average... however, the differences between Hussain Bolt and the average black is much larger than the difference between the average white and the average black.

Hence you can use statistics to claim all kinds of differences between the races, however you cannot use it to justify discrimination on a case by case bases.

Therefore, any race based preferential treatment is racist.
And projecting the average attribute of a race to individuals are similarly racist.

Hanno Level 8 Aug 13, 2020
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Are you saying "blacks" and "hispanics" are less intelligent due to their race? If so that is racist nonsense.
So lets get passed that.
Here in Australia Asians are given what I see as preferential treatment. Students from overseas are seen as cash cows. Hence the treatment.

IQ statistics show they are less intelligent on average. But the left has already claimed that facts are racist. So there you go...

@Thaw There have been lots of "black" inventors.
Also have you never heard of The Moors?
Today we have many intelligent "blacks" involved in science etc, etc, etc...
Do your own research and learn something.

@Tycho studies have shown that 1/ IQ tests are not very useful and that 2/ demographics have a major impact on learning etc. Being academic does not make one intelligent.
IQ tests have been used for decades to assess intelligence but they are fundamentally flawed because they do not take into account the complex nature of the human intellect and its different components, the study found.

@Lightman Both fine points - if only they were true.

IQ tests aren't very useful for what? Indicating intelligence?

Demographics does have a major impact on learning which is why the US and Europe have these "intelligent" Blacks and Africa does not. The European peoples developed a very high culture while most Africans still live in near stone-age conditions. Being academic may not make one intelligent - but being intelligent means greater success academically.

@Tycho They are true.
I studied Educational Psychology many years ago and even then they were true.
Check it out yourself I'm sure you re capable.
I'm pretty sure an African Bushman would be considered more intelligent and useful in Africa than a Humanities student.
[popsci.com]
[cbsnews.com]
[phys.org]
[theguardian.com]
[sciencedaily.com]

Not saying that at all, do not add or take way from the words I wrote. I merely posed the question as to whether or not intelligent White and Asian students were being overlooked for less qualified black and Hispanic students. It appears that is exactly what is happening at Yale University. Given two students, equal in every manner except the white student scored better on entrance exams, and high school grades, the university would bump that student and admit a Hispanic or black student. Not cool. It is the very essence of racism.

@Lightman I'm an Archaeologist. And, an African Bushman would certainly be more useful than a Educational Psychologist in just about any situation. But how long would it take either to learn new behaviors and survival strategies in unfamiliar surroundings... My money is on the more intelligent. And it's obvious to see what was accomplished by those of higher intelligence. Sub-Saharan Africans never built anything taller than a one story building, and nothing really permanent, while other groups (of higher intelligence) built civilizations in a comparably short time.

Face the obvious facts right before your eyes... if you're capable.

@Tycho are you being Narchy... ? No need for that.
I'm not an Educational Psychologist btw.
You seem to misunderstand what intelligence is, and can't be bothered to read the links I posted... they'd help.
The Moors are "black" do you doubt their intelligence?

@DeplorableToo I just asked for clarification... what makes you think "blacks" and "hispanics" are less "qualified"... BTW I did address your question in relation to what is going on here. Seems it could be similar.

@DeplorableToo, @Thaw Rubbish.... you are an anti-semitic in denial bout many things it would seem.
Black scientists such as George Washington Carver, Mae C. Jemison and Neil deGrasse Tyson are widely known, while others — such as engineer Otis Boykin — are less famous. Discover the struggles and triumphs of these and other African American innovators.
[biography.com]
Educate yourself out of abject denial.

@Lightman I'm not sure if I am being "narchy," since that's not really a word I couldn't say.

With an IQ of 135 on the Stanford Binet test, I know quite well what intelligence is. And no I can't be bothered to read links to non-sense articles I've seen for years explaining away what IQ tests reveal. These "studies" are produced by the same kind of "intellectuals" that claim 2+2 does not necessarily equal 4, or that there are 43 genders, etc.

No, I don't deny the intelligence of the Moors. But intelligence is like the word *quality;" it can be low to high. The evidence is present in the modern and ancient world. Just look at what various peoples have achieved (or failed to achieve).

And why do you keep going on about the Moors? Their accomplishments in Spain, Sicily, S. Italy? Strange they never achieved much in their own homelands. Besides, the Moors weren't Black (sub-Saharan African), they're most likely a mixture of Berber and Arab. You understand that not everyone indigenous to Africa is Black or Negroid, right?

I'll risk being called "narchy" and ask that you just open your eyes.

@Lightman, it appears the article has hit a nerve with you. You went off on a tangent, and flung needless accusations, in a knee jerk reaction to my proposed question, which was:

"If you are White or Asian, and smart, do universities discriminate against you? Do you get preferential enrollment, or are you 'looked over' for less intelligent blacks and hispanics?"

The article answered this question with a resounding YES! I did not propose that Whites are smarter, or that Asians are smarter. There are low IQs in every race. The trend among universities, and often employers, is to hire, or admit, less qualified (and lower IQ) persons based solely on their minority race. This, is racism. To deny a more qualified person admittance because a school wants a 'diversity' of color in its seats, and to exclude those who have a higher IQ because of their skin color is no less discrimination than to deny a person who is black or Hispanic access to a public restroom. Pointing out the obvious does not make me a racist, or antisemitic. It makes me observant, and less racist than those who deny it exists. Maybe you are the one with the problem?

@DeplorableToo Nope no nerves hit at all... I'm no racist and just wanted you to clarify your stance...
So just why did you say "black and hispanic" and not just other "less qualified" students?
Lots of dumb people in the world and they are not just "blacks and hispanics".

@DeplorableToo, @Tycho Nice try.... so you think people of African heritage are dumb is that right? Even though I just proved otherwise. Several times.

@Lightman Did you even BOTHER to read the article? 🙄

@DeplorableToo You going to answer my question?
I'm just commenting on what you said...

@Lightman You proved nothing... several times.

@Lightman My wording is appropriate and stands, as-is. The University bumped White and Asian students for less intelligent black and Hispanic students. It DID Not bump black students for less intelligent Asian, Hispanic, or White students; it did not bump Hispanic students for less intelligent Black, White or Asian students. And, it did not bump Asian and White students for less intelligent White and Asian students. It targeted academically excellent White and Asian students and Only gave preference to academically inferior students with darker skin (black and Hispanic origin).

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Gotta fill those quotas, cause anything merit based is racist!

Tycho Level 7 Aug 13, 2020
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