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If Trump wins it will be the biggest "PULL YOUR HEAD IN" to the Progressive Left and Socialist Anarchists ever.

Will the Democrats learn?
Did they last time?

Progressives cannot tolerate dissent.

Does the US have to make voting mandatory?

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Lightman 8 Nov 1
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The original post...

If Trump wins it will be the biggest "PULL YOUR HEAD IN" to the Progressive Left and Socialist Anarchists ever.

Will the Democrats learn?
Did they last time?

Progressives cannot tolerate dissent.

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If you don't vote... do you really have a right to vote or complain about the government?

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How is the right to vote not equal to the right not to vote?

Hanno Level 8 Nov 1, 2020

When is the right not to vote not simply laziness and apathy?
Who you vote for or don't vote for is still your choice no matter what
The advantage would be not having to cajole people out to vote or buy votes.

@Lightman
Since when is being lazy or being apathetic a crime?
It is absolutely your right to be those things.

It is a basic human right not to do anything that you do not want to do as long as it hurts no one else.

Forcing people to go to a voting station is totalitarian.

@Hanno No its not.... I don't live in a totalitarian state... it is civic duty... most Australians do it and see it as part of the democratic process... we can still withhold our vote if necessary.
Most people see it as a positive part of their right to have a say in the running of their country.

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If the Democrats don’t win it’s probably the end of the DEmoncratic party as we know it. Trump will cut Silicone Valley off at he knees. The Big-lie won’t have the power it has enjoyed the last four years.

Tarpon Level 7 Nov 1, 2020
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Mandatory ANYTHING is not consistent with the Constitution.

Is obeying the Constitution MANDATORY?

@Lightman For the government, especially those first 10 amendments.....

@Lightman, Although the original Constitution only protected our rights, and did not restrict them, actually, no, it is not mandatory. However anyone who goes against the law tacitly agrees to be penalized according to the law. But why wouldn't you just go elsewhere??? The fact is, people around the World want to come here. They are not violating borders to get into Venezuela, North Korea, China, or any other Communist country. So I don't really get your point.

@TimTuolomne People around the world want to come here too.

@Lightman That's what my answer says.

@TimTuolomne they don't come here for the constitution... they come here for a way of life as they do for America.
My point was that what you said...
"Mandatory ANYTHING is not consistent with the Constitution." was incorrect...

@Lightman. With all due respect, it sounds like you have not actually read the Constitution. And if you believe you have, please quote the section that curtails our rights. That is what you have implied; that it is mandatory to have our rights protected, which makes no sense.

The principle of the Constitution is rights, not restrictions, as with law in most other countries. Sounds like you are confusing our law with theirs.

The Left in this country wants to abandon the original Constitution, and under the dominance of the Left, a vast Federal bureaucracy has been created under which we have no rights, which is also un-Constitutional, and why Democrats want to get rid of the Constitution.

This election boils down to a choice in direction between the two.

@TimTuolomne ah no.... I'm backing facts not a political party or their plans for your constitution. In case you missed it "here" is Australia. People do not come here for our Constitution, our Constitution is very different to your and we do not have or need a Bill of rights.
I doubt very much most of your immigrants know much at all about your constitution or have even read it before migrating. that was my point.
They come to the US for a better life as they see it. Just as they do here.
My original comment BTW, points out my politics and it would be very anti-Progressive in case you missed it.

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In Australia voting is mandatory/compulsory... you don't vote you get fined.
Everyone is on the electoral roll and marked off as they vote.
Mind you it is really just mandatory attendance on the day and you can simply put unmarked ballot papers in the boxes.
But the vast majority of people that turn up do make valid votes. Usually invalid votes are less than 5% at most elections.

Ah, my bad for assuming without realizing it that you were American. Now your comments make more sense to me.

And we differ that our Constitution is not what draws people here. This place was once the greatest nation on Earth until progressives started messing with our Constitution. Lots of places have resources. But we had freedom. That came from our Constitution.

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Making people prove their ignorance is never a good thing...

Making people vote doesn't prove their ignorance low turnouts usually point to laziness or apathy.

I think he just proved your point Tracy.

@TimTuolomne Ignorance is not the same as apathy or laziness.

@Lightman So you said now redundantly. Now would you care to make a cogent argument to defend your claim?

@TimTuolomne Make 'em all the time... do you disagree with the original post?

@Lightman. I voted against mandatory voting in the US.

Example: The right to expression and freedom is represented by our flag. So it is within the Constitutional spirit to allow anyone to burn our symbol of freedom. I may not like it, and I will defend anyone's right to do so.

@TimTuolomne lol the post is not about mandatory voting... try again

@Lightman From the original post: "Does the US have to make voting mandatory?
You have voted for: no"

@Lightman that is EXACTLY what the original post was about....???

@tracycoyle This is the original post...

If Trump wins it will be the biggest "PULL YOUR HEAD IN" to the Progressive Left and Socialist Anarchists ever.

Will the Democrats learn?
Did they last time?

Progressives cannot tolerate dissent.

The rest is simply a poll about elections...

@Lightman A comment, rhetorical questions and a poll question. The poll was the whole purpose.

@Lightman Of course it was YOUR post....tell me you seriously wanted a discussion about what will happen to the Democrats after losing this time?

Or was the question meaningless to you, only a tool to get a conversation going about sore losers?

@tracycoyle A poll is not the whole purpose it never is it has its own purpose I think I know what my intentions were. Don't you ?
I note most people leave out polls... they are optional.
I have no idea where "sore losers" come into it... I never mentioned them.

My point was and always will be

If Trump wins it will be the biggest "PULL YOUR HEAD IN" to the Progressive Left and Socialist Anarchists ever.

Will the Democrats learn?
Did they last time?

Progressives cannot tolerate dissent.

That is the point for discussion...
The poll is just a query from me about your elections...
A bonus poll if you like. The poll allows you to say yes no or not sure nothing else.

@TimTuolomne A poll is not a post... and in this case is not the main argument... good to see you understand that a poll lets you say yes no or not sure at least.

@Lightman. I’m happy to engage in a spirited discussion about significant ideas. I have no interest in quibbling over who’s right, over trivial or procedural matters. I intend to learn something from you. So far a dry well.

@TimTuolomne Neither am I but you seemed to only want to do that.
I made my post... posted a poll... and clearly explained what you got wrong.
I have no control over the later and I have no need to insult you...

@Lightman... Wait. You post a poll that asks if voting should be mandatory, I answer, then you say its not about that because you wrote it, so I’m wrong. You’re hilarious.

@TimTuolomne I posted a post.... how many times must you be told... the poll is an add on and you answer it yes no and not sure... you even admitted that.... talk about hypocrisy you say I'm keeping this unproductive crap going... take a big look in the mirror.
I'm beginning to think you are a total idiot.

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