slug.com slug.com
8 3

I'm dropping this post here because this is the largest group.

Generational cultures and differences are interesting. They are defined by age, but more so by common experiences and key events that each group experiences.

Which generation are you? Is there any significant childhood event you remember?

(Note: Dates are approximate and there is some overlap because there are no standard definitions for when a generation begins and ends.)

Which generation are you?

  • 0 votes
  • 1 vote
  • 8 votes
  • 9 votes
  • 3 votes
  • 1 vote
  • 0 votes
Naomi 8 Dec 30
Share
You must be a member of this group before commenting. Join Group

Be part of the movement!

Welcome to the community for those who value free speech, evidence and civil discourse.

Create your free account

8 comments

Feel free to reply to any comment by clicking the "Reply" button.

1

Gen X the cold war survivors

1

I am Boomer that is a little out of touch with my generation. In fact most of my friends and acquaintances are X's and M's. If you don't influence the next generation you will not have happiness for a life time.

Hello. Perhaps it's not so much about one generation influencing another; I think that intergenerational interactions are important.

1

Xennials: “ Our micro-generation attended much of secondary school in a pre-Columbine era. September 11 was formative for us." ( [usatoday.com] This was definitely me. There was only dialup until I almost done with high school and I very much remember 9/11 when I was in college. I was much more into technology that my high school classmates that were Gen X. I’m part of a very odd micro-generation that is a good mix of the one before and after but very different from both.

Hello there. A very good observation of your generation - thank you.
And the dial-up connection... Lol

@Naomi dialup was a nightmare. When I was 13
It was long distance to call the next town over and internet was by the minute so you had to pay both the ISP and the Telco for the privilege of connecting at 2400 baud to download files. A few friends of mine got together and bought BBS software so we could hang out online and we took turns dialing long distance to connect to the internet so we could send emails. As crazy as all of that was - it was still more “free” than it is today.

1

World War 2 was one hell of a common experience.

And it made heroes. There were Americans who flew their aircraft over the
Japanese ships, in the face of anti-aircraft fire. Americans who paratrooped
behind enemy lines on D Day. These Americans got to walk in the parade.

What a disappointment to have battled in the jungles of Vietnam and return
to vilification. No parade.

America used to win, and it rewarded winners.

Jackson won at New Orleans and became president.

Teddy Roosevelt won in Cuba and became president.

Jefferson doubled the size of the United States with the Louisiana Purchase.

Polk doubled it again, by conquering Mexico.

George Washington won the Revolutionary War and became president.

Ulysses Grant won the Civil War and became president.

Reagan and Bush I vanquished the Soviet Empire.

Jimmy Carter contributed to American military might by creating the Navy's
nuclear propulsion program. Jimmy is chiefly known as a peanut farmer but he is
also a badass nuclear physicist. Wars are won by physicists. Read the biography of
Szilard.

Dwight Eisenhower was the Supreme Allied Commander in Europe for World War 2, and he won,
and he subsequently became president.

Gerald Ford fought in World War 2. Also of significance is that he was a starter
on the Michigan national champion football team.

Richard Nixon was tapped by the Republican party because of his heroism in
World War 2.

Franklin Roosevelt applied to serve in the military and was rejected. Alas. But he
has the distinction of winning World War 2, and he did it while sitting in a
wheelchair. Like Bran the Broken. Bet you can name a large number of generals
from World War 2. That's because we won.

James Madison, while president, went out into the field and personally commanded the
troops in the War of 1812.

John Kennedy earned a Purple Heart in World War 2. Also, during the Cuban Missile Crisis,
he stared down the Soviets.

John McCain courageously flew his aircraft over the target in Vietnam.
Some made it back home with their aircraft, and some didn't. They are all
heroes. One of these heroes is John McCain. Another is Bush II.

Abraham Lincoln Lincoln won the Civil War, and it happened because of his
skill in harnessing new war technology, such as the rifled bullet, the auto reloading
rifle, the rail system, and the telegraph. Lincoln spent hours every day in the telegraph office personally directing the war.

Lincoln was a formidable wrestler. The left likes to rewrite history. I can
too. As far as I'm concerned, Lincoln was actually a Vampire Hunter.

Jesus there are a lot of badass military American presidents. I haven't even gotten to
William Harrison, John Tyler, Zachary Taylor, Millard Fillmore, Franklin Pierce, James Buchanan,
Rutherford Hayes, and William McKinley.

Bill O'Reilly and Bruce Fierstein (wrote Real Men Don't Eat Quiche) co-authored
the book "Old School", which glorifies old school American badassness.

Trump is undisputed as the mightiest golfing president. Trump once owned a football team.
To top it off, Trump is in the WWE Hall of Fame. That's badass. Praise Obama and Biden
all you want, but they have no chance at the WWE Hall of Fame.

Ray Davis, owner of The Raiders: Just win baby!

Vince Lombardy: Winning isn't everything. It's the only thing.

Trump: We're going to win! We're going to win so much you'll get tired of winning!

And those things all affected your worldview of life?

@Naomi
I love listening to Newt Gingrich's lectures because he's a history professor and he spices up
his lectures with American history.

My world view of life comes from American badass history.

My Father was a programmer in the punch card era, back when programmers knew
how to milk the most out of limited memory and Flops. They could program in raw
fortran, without a monitor, and they could calculate in base 16. They didn't
need a slide rule because they had the logarithm table memorized. Modern
programmers lost this art. I became a computational physicist.

20th century Americans conquered nuclear physics. I attended college on
scholarship with the Institute for Nuclear Power Organizations. I love nuclear
physics. Nuclear physics should be a hot field, but the government won't let us
have nice things. They won't let us build new reactors.

Shrine of American badasses [jaymaron.com]
Textbook on 20th century American nuclear physics: [jaymaron.com]

My role models are Szilard, Teller, and Le May. You know Teller as "Dr. Strangelove". Few know
Szilard because he worked from the shadows. Szilard was The Shadow.
Szilard was the MVP of World War 2 and few know it.

"Bombs Away" Le May was a bomber pilot with physics street smarts that engineered the
American air combat strategy in World War 2.

Textbook on the physics of World War 2: [jaymaron.com]

1

Pastor @KeithThroop here is actually younger than my younger sister. But I'm not into labels for certain age groups. I know many won't agree with me, but I find these troubled times an exciting time to be alive.

3

I was born in 1965, which is the usual year that is given for the the beginning of the so-called "Generation X," but I have always had much more in common with the so-called "Baby Boomer" generation that preceded it. But, as you've pointed out @Naomi, there is some overlap, and there are really no standard definitions for when a generation begins and ends.

As for any significant childhood event I remember, there are many, some very personal (and even some that are a bit tragic), and others having to do with events, such as the celebration of the American Bicentennial, or watching men on TV walking on the moon, or seeing footage of Viet Nam coverage, or being a part of forced busing desegregation efforts, or the constant threat of the Cold War with the Soviet Union, during which time everyone seemed to fear WWIII on the horizon, etc. When I was old enough, I joined the military to take my stand against the threat of the Soviet Union and Communism, and I couldn't understand why more of my generation were not more patriotic. Little did I know that problem would only seem to get worse, but perhaps now there is a resurgence in patriotism here in the States. It seems to me that this may be one thing President Trump has helped to re-awaken in many, just as Ronald Reagan inspired me and led me to serve in the military to stand against what he rightly called "the Evil Empire." He was a great Commander-in-Chief. Anyway, I certainly hope there is a trend toward a more patriotic America once again.

I was born..... 13-06-66....(I am not shitting you) That is why... I am the fucking antechrist of all the Boomers/Generation X....And you all DID SUBCRIBE... MUAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHA ! 😉

5

"Generational cultures and differences are interesting. They are defined by age, but more so by common experiences and key events that each group experiences."

For what it worth, I will provide my own 2 cents on this. Age by its very nature seems to be a problem when used to meassure people, and as they get older, more so.

“I don't think, sir, you have a right to command me, merely because you are older than I, or because you have seen more of the world than I have; your claim to superiority depends on the use you have made of your time and experience.” ― Charlotte Brontë, Jane Eyre

As for "common experiences and key events that each group experiences." Yes, that would be better way to look at it, however with globalization and globalism and governments push for open borders and migration and forced multiculturalism, you must go to very few countries that still have their sovereignty and therefore common values and culture more or less preserved.

Policies in much of EU and USA and Canada with open borders migration and political correctness have shown massive failure of this, and there was no real legit reason, it’s by design. Globalist technocratic communist regime in EU and USA and Canada has really pushed for this, its part of their agenda 21 and now agenda 230. So it eliminates the way to think about experiences because of years or groups when entire nations are affected because of deliberate bad policy.

And perhaps that is the most common experience in those nations. Off course it tells us nothing of how individuals have coped with it.

Personally I'm not a fan of this type of thinking about people and ourselves. What is missing in these types of overviews, is focus on the individuality. Everyone is just put into artificially made boxes and categories. It is in essence a bureaucratic way of doing things. .... in triplicate.

It is the nasty side effect of the industrial revolution that I think is very dangerous for our society.

Public schooling system was made for training factory workers on mass, and it was therefore based on the factory system. So when you go to school, you have, standardized tests, you have bell to sound the break, just like in a factory and off course you go to certain grade, not based on your individual maturity or capacity but based on the year of manufacture.... when you were born.

As the world gets more chaotic and more adaptability to change is needed and more creativity is required, why is there still tendency to put everything in neat categories based on arbitrary measures?

Probably because the world is run by bureaucrats. And you know what they say about bureaucracy? It defends the status quo long past the time when the quo has lost its status.

Maybe it’s time we abandon bureaucratic way of thinking and focus on individuality. Otherwise, will see more and more depressed, aimless, frustrated, lost, purposeless individuals.

So on principle I'm against bureaucratic way of thinking, because it robs individuals of their individuality and robs humans of their humanity. And we can do better than communists, can't we?

RSA ANIMATE: Changing Education Paradigms

Tom Peters: Educate For a Creative Society

In ancient Greece...They called it....the respect of the elder...And than the cult of ancesters. It's gone now.

Why do you think that happened?

@Krunoslav runaway democracy or mob rule?

@eschatologyguy In what context? Can you elaborate on your question please?

@Krunoslav the same reason why Socrates hated unbound democracy. No protection for minorities from the will of the majority. When the majority decides the elderly are owed no respect, then the decision is carried.

Hello. You're very politically-minded. I'm not. I'm rather anthropologically-minded. I like observing people and asking questions like "Why do they behave the way they behave?" There are many cultural factors as to why different people have different ways of thinking. Generation is one of them. No one can deny generation gaps, for example. "When I was a young man/woman..." That's how grandparents' stories typically begin. If they didn't live in different times from younger generations, why bother telling their childhood and adolescence? Even a simple circumstance like whether you were born with or without the Internet has an impact on your world-view. What you call common sense and values can be very different from those of young people and it doesn't even have to be the mater of who is right and who is wrong; they are just different simply because of generation gap as such.

"Personally I'm not a fan of this type of thinking about people and ourselves. What is missing in these types of overviews, is focus on the individuality. Everyone is just put into artificially made boxes and categories. It is in essence a bureaucratic way of doing things. .... in triplicate."

When I made this post, I wasn't thinking politically at all. Try not to associate this post with identity politics; that wasn't my intention at all. I posted this on a much lighter note. How did you grow up in Croatia as a child and as a young man through your generation? Can you think of any significant event that happened in your life while you were growing up? Did it have an impact on your perspective as to how you should live your life?

@eschatologyguy "the same reason why Socrates hated unbound democracy. No protection for minorities from the will of the majority. When the majority decides the elderly are owed no respect, then the decision is carried."

Yes, this is true. Democracy has many problems, unless its bound. But that is why Both Athenian democracy and early democracy days in the United States had built in self correction rules. In other words, not everyone was allowed to vote, to put bounds on the democracy as you put it.

You had to have been over 18 years of age, male, done your military service and own property. No identity politics, meaning no men, no women, could vote unless.... they have proven that they are invested in the preservation of the state. Also no foreigners and no salves were allowed to vote. And women could not vote because they could no be part of military and not because they were women.

These were good rules, design as a self correcting mechanism in democracy that would otherwise be out of control, as it is now in modern times.

“People use democracy as a free-floating abstraction disconnected from reality. Democracy in and of itself is not necessarily good. Gang rape, after all, is democracy in action. All men have the right to live their own life. Democracy must be rooted in a rational philosophy that first and foremost recognizes the right of an individual. A few million Imperial Order men screaming for the lives of a much smaller number of people in the New World may win a democratic vote, but it does not give them the right to those lives, or make their calls for such killing right. Democracy is not a synonym for justice or for freedom. Democracy is not a sacred right sanctifying mob rule.” ― Terry Goodkind, Naked Empire

In the past, first democracies did not rely on identity politics, but on contributions. Rights implied obligations, as a way to instill self correcting mechanism in the system that would otherwise self corrupt. Sadly the civil rights and socialists / communist activism has argued around this critical mechanism and corrupted the point of democratic elections.

E.G.

Timeline of voting rights in the United States

  • 1789: The Constitution of the United States grants the states the power to set voting requirements. Generally, states limited this right to property-owning or tax-paying white males (about 6% of the population).[1]

    • 1790: The Naturalization Act of 1790 allows free white persons born outside of the United States to become citizens. However, due to the Constitution granting the states the power to set voting requirements, this Act (and its successor Naturalization Act of 1795) did not automatically grant the right to vote.[2]

    • 1792–1838: Free black males lose the right to vote in Pennsylvania and in New Jersey.

    • 1792–1856: Abolition of property qualifications for white men, from 1792 (Kentucky) to 1856 (North Carolina) during the periods of Jeffersonian and Jacksonian democracy.[3]

      • In the 1820 election, there were 108,359 ballots cast. Most older states with property restrictions dropped them by the mid-1820s, except for Rhode Island, Virginia and North Carolina. No new states had property qualifications although three had adopted tax-paying qualifications – Ohio, Louisiana, and Mississippi, of which only in Louisiana were these significant and long lasting.[4]
      • The 1828 presidential election was the first in which non-property-holding white males could vote in the vast majority of states. By the end of the 1820s, attitudes and state laws had shifted in favor of universal white male suffrage.[5]

      • Voter turnout soared during the 1830s, reaching about 80% of adult white male population in the 1840 presidential election.[6] 2,412,694 ballots were cast, an increase that far outstripped natural population growth, making poor voters a huge part of the electorate. The process was peaceful and widely supported, except in the state of Rhode Island where the Dorr Rebellion of the 1840s demonstrated that the demand for equal suffrage was broad and strong, although the subsequent reform included a significant property requirement for anyone resident but born outside of the United States.

      • The last state to abolish property qualification was North Carolina in 1856 resulting in a close approximation to universal white male suffrage. However, tax-paying qualifications remained in five states in 1860 – Massachusetts, Rhode Island, Pennsylvania, Delaware and North Carolina. They survived in Pennsylvania and Rhode Island until the 20th century.[7] In addition, many poor whites were later disenfranchised.

    • 1868: Citizenship is guaranteed to all male persons born or naturalized in the United States by the Fourteenth Amendment to the United States Constitution, setting the stage for future expansions to voting rights.

    • 1870: The Fifteenth Amendment to the United States Constitution prevents states from denying the right to vote on grounds of "race, color, or previous condition of servitude".

      • Disfranchisement after Reconstruction era began soon after. Former Confederate states passed Jim Crow laws and amendments to effectively disfranchise African-American and poor white voters through poll taxes, literacy tests, grandfather clauses and other restrictions, applied in a discriminatory manner. During this period, the Supreme Court generally upheld state efforts to discriminate against racial minorities; only later in the 20th century were these laws ruled unconstitutional. Black males in the Northern states could vote, but the majority of African Americans lived in the South.
    • 1887: Citizenship is granted to Native Americans who are willing to disassociate themselves from their tribe by the Dawes Act, making those males technically eligible to vote.

    • 1913: Direct election of Senators, established by the Seventeenth Amendment to the United States Constitution, gave voters rather than state legislatures the right to elect senators.[8]

    • 1920: Women are guaranteed the right to vote by the Nineteenth Amendment to the United States Constitution. In practice, the same restrictions that hindered the ability of non-white men to vote now also applied to non-white women.

    • 1924: All Native Americans are granted citizenship and the right to vote through the Indian Citizenship Act, regardless of tribal affiliation. By this point, approximately two thirds of Native Americans were already citizens.[9][10] Notwithstanding, some western states continued to bar Native Americans from voting until 1948.[11]

    • 1943: Chinese immigrants given the right to citizenship and the right to vote by the Magnuson Act.

    • 1948: Arizona and New Mexico became the last states to extend full voting rights to Native Americans, which had been opposed by some western states in contravention of the Indian Citizenship Act of 1924.[12][13]

    • 1961: Residents of Washington, D.C. are granted the right to vote in U.S. Presidential Elections by the Twenty-third Amendment to the United States Constitution.

    • 1962-1964: A historic turning point arrived after the U.S. Supreme Court under Chief Justice Earl Warren made a series of landmark decisions which helped establish the nationwide "one man, one vote" electoral system in the United States.

      • In March 1962, the Warren Court ruled in Baker v. Carr (1962) that redistricting qualifies as a justiciable question, thus enabling federal courts to hear redistricting cases.[14]
      • In February 1964, the Warren Court ruled in Wesberry v. Sanders (1964) that districts in the United States House of Representatives must be approximately equal in population.[15]

      • In June 1964, the Warren Court ruled in Reynolds v. Sims (1964) that both houses of the electoral districts of state legislative chambers must be roughly equal in population..[16][17][18]

    • 1964: Poll Tax payment prohibited from being used as a condition for voting in federal elections by the Twenty-fourth Amendment to the United States Constitution.

    • 1965: Protection of voter registration and voting for racial minorities, later applied to language minorities, is established by the Voting Rights Act of 1965. This has also been applied to correcting discriminatory election systems and districting.

    • 1966: Tax payment and wealth requirements for voting in state elections are prohibited by the Supreme Court in Harper v. Virginia Board of Elections.

    • 1971: Adults aged 18 through 21 are granted the right to vote by the Twenty-sixth Amendment to the United States Constitution. This was enacted in response to Vietnam War protests, which argued that soldiers who were old enough to fight for their country should be granted the right to vote.[8][19]

    • 1972: Requirement that a person reside in a jurisdiction for an extended period is prohibited by the Supreme Court in Dunn v. Blumstein, 405 U.S. 330 (1972).[20][21][21]

    • 1973: Washington, D.C. local elections, such as Mayor and Councilmen, restored after a 100-year gap in Georgetown, and a 190-year gap in the wider city, ending Congress's policy of local election disfranchisement started in 1801 in this former portion of Maryland—see: D.C. Home rule.

    • 1986: United States Military and Uniformed Services, Merchant Marine, other citizens overseas, living on bases in the United States, abroad, or aboard ship are granted the right to vote by the Uniformed and Overseas Citizens Absentee Voting Act.[22]

    • 1996–2008: Twenty-eight US states changed their laws on felon voting rights, mostly to restore rights or to simplify the process of restoration.[23]

    • 2006: The Voting Rights Act of 1965 was extended for the fourth time by President George W. Bush, being the second extension of 25 years.[24]

    • 2008: State laws on felony disenfranchisement have since continued to shift, both curtailing and restoring voter rights, sometimes over short periods of time within the same US state.[23]

    • 2013: Supreme Court ruled in the 5–4 Shelby County v. Holder decision that Section 4🍺 of the Voting Rights Act is unconstitutional. Section 4🍺 stated that if states or local governments wants to change their voting laws, they must appeal to the Attorney General

@Naomi Fair enough.

I do appropriate you asking questions and staying curious. That is great treat to have. Never lose that. 🙂

And you are probably correct, we interpreted the questions differently. We each have our own perspective based on our world view and experiences. I suppose the curious question than is, is that because we are in different generations or because we are individually different? Correction does not imply causation. So we must be mindful of that.

@Naomi "When I made this post, I wasn't thinking politically at all. Try not to associate this post with identity politics; that wasn't my intention at all. I posted this on a much lighter note. How did you grow up in Croatia as a child and as a young man through your generation? Can you think of any significant event that happened in your life while you were growing up? Did it have an impact on your perspective as to how you should live your life? "

Well, I'm an individualistic anomaly, so I would not say I was like anyone else I know, regardless of what age group I was born in. I never really though of myself belonging to a generation, and I think in my country that was not really a thing either, it was just other factors like what you think, what you like, who your parents are, perhaps where you live etc. Although despite that I still grew up different than what might be considered norm. Which brings me to the original point I was trying to make. There is no category for someone like me, since I'm outlier more than the norm.

And as I grew older and learn new things I keep changing my worldview , which does not in any way really link me to a generation of people like myself, its just that we face similar problems because the way world is, but we go about dealing with those same problems in many different ways.

I did mentioned beurocracy because that is actually the origins of the kind of approach to categorizing people by generations.... its not even modern day politics , it predates it. Like I said, its a by product of industrial revolution. So no matter how you might feel about it, or I feel about it, that is where its origins lie, and I think its not optimal for well being of communities or individuals, it is however efficient for industrial society run by bureaucrats. The most extreme example of that is communism where this was the official state policy with predictably bad consequences.

For me its the character and individual nuances that is important and that is largely unrecognized in such way of running things. And being one that does not fit in to the predesigned models, though me how this is is missing in current system of culture and government and education system.

Even social media can testify to this. In the beginning when it was wild west and people could just be themselves, it was flourishing, but than when algorithms and beurocracy of big tech started to sort people and drive them to specic content based on specific beorocratic measures, creativity and joy of social media was slowly dying until it turned into anxiety. After all , it is why I'm here now, to avoid such places and express myself with more nuance and freedom. Maybe that is why many of us are here as well.

@Krunoslav Like I said, there are many many cultural factors that make us different from each other. Even among the people living in the same town, they can be so different from one another because of different social classes, different upbringings, and again, different generations.
Oh, dad jokes - they are a good example. Dads are likely to embarrass their teenage children because they see dad jokes so lame. That's definitely a generation gap. Lol

@Naomi You said: "Even among the people living in the same town, they can be so different from one another because of different social classes, different upbringings, and again, different generations."

That is true. But I can't help to notice, you never mentioned personal choice in this process. Everything you mentioned is external, as if personal autonomy and responsibility is not considered. Did you notice that about your own question? Is that something you intended to leave out?

P.S.

Interesting, but ome of the stereotypes are true, since they provide simple way to judge a group. But we must not forget that stereotypes exists for quick decision making , that is their purpose. They are not definitive, they are a shortcut to coming up quickly with a way to judge a complex situation.

They are about cognitive economy of the individual who is making a judgment, but that goes both ways. In other words, you may have stereotypes about dad's joke, but I'm sure dad's making the joke have stereotype of people they think you belong to.

But that is what they are. Stereotypes. The purpose of stereotypes is to make people have to use less brain power to deal with complex situations. Built into the stereotypes is a certain dose of error, but for quick decision making it often is enough.

That is why the saying goes: You don't get a second chance to make a first impression, but often first impression ends up being wrong.

In other words, stereotypes, are shortcut tool, an aid, not a definitive way to judge people, just a tool to help quickly get a very broad overview of a group of people, in order to make complex decision making process easy enough for quick first impression.

Polls are compounding to the problem of accuracy simply because not all people will answer truthfully to the polls , understand the polls, refuse to participate, and off course the person designing a poll must protect themselves from their own cognitive bias.

I guess my point is that I'm not a fan of it. Even if it has its purpose, both polls and stereotypes. Personally I would not rely on them and would if at all possible avoid them, unless I need to make a quick decision very quickly and I'm pressed for time.

@Krunoslav IMO personal choice, your inner self, whatever you call personal. is influenced by circumstantial factors.

@Naomi And that is the key power we all have, with it comes responsibility. Yes we are influenced by external factors, but we can change the way we think about the external factors and what they mean and we can change psychically some of the factors as well. With that power of choice, comes responsibility and freedom.

People around us, genetics, external environmental factors, memories, dreams, instincts etc. All that affects us and we are combination of all that. And we can change over time. The kind of polls you suggested, do not account for much of that, which was my original observation/critique of the method.

@Krunoslav We have to agree to disagree. I find it impossible to discount generational cultures and differences as part of social fabric.

@Naomi I agree that we should not discredit them, but I disagree that they are the only way to label people and I find them only one part of the story, arguably less important one and so yes I guess we can agree to disagree.

@eschatologyguy @Krunoslav I find it curious that your focus is always fixated on the US. How about Croatian War? It was a very significant event and you are the generation that witnessed the changes and transition your country went through.

@Naomi Well, war happened, yes, but everyone was affected in different ways and everyone responded in their own way. Some had supportive parents and others did not. Some chose to leave and some stayed. Some chose to fight and some chose got killed, and some didn't.

There is no better way to understand just how much our attitude towards circumstances and our character plays apart.... is to observe different people in same circumstances and see how differently they behave.

In Man’s Search for Meaning, psychiatrist and neurologist Viktor Frankl (1905-1997) wrote about his ordeal as a concentration camp inmate during the Second World War. Interestingly, he found that those who survived longest in concentration camps were not those who were physically strong, but those who retained a sense of control over their environment.

He observed:

"We who lived in concentration camps can remember the men who walked through the huts comforting others, giving away their last piece of bread. They may have been few in number, but they offer sufficient proof that everything can be taken from a man but one thing: the last of human freedoms—to choose one’s own attitude in any given set of circumstances—to choose one’s own way."

Frankl’s message is ultimately one of hope: even in the most absurd, painful, and dispiriting of circumstances, life can be given a meaning, and so too can suffering. Life in the concentration camp taught Frankl that our main drive or motivation in life is neither pleasure, as Freud had believed, nor power, as Adler had believed, but meaning.

After his release, Frankl founded the school of logotherapy (from the Greek logos, meaning "reason" or "principle" ), which is sometimes referred to as the "Third Viennese School of Psychotherapy" for coming after those of Freud and Adler. The aim of logotherapy is to carry out an existential analysis of the person, and, in so doing, to help him uncover or discover meaning for his life.

"A man who let himself decline because he could not see any future goal, found himself occupied with retrospective thoughts. In robbing the present of its reality there lay a certain danger. It became easy to overlook the opportunities to make something positive of life, opportunities which really did exist. Such men prefer to close their eyes and to live in the past. Life for such people becomes meaningless." - Dr. Viktor Frankl

As a man thinketh. By James Allen.

Mind is the Master power that moulds and makes,
And Man is Mind, and evermore he takes
The tool of Thought, and, shaping what he wills,
Brings forth a thousand joys, a thousand ills:—
He thinks in secret, and it comes to pass:
Environment is but his looking-glass.

[james-allen.in1woord.nl]

Focus on how you respond to events around you, not the events themselves. When we can't change the circumstances around us, we are forced the circumstances within us. To put all the focus on external events, is a cop out.

@Naomi “Let us not say, every man is the architect of his own fortune; but let us say, every man is the architect of his own character.” ― George D. Boardman

Some people believe in fortune or luck, that is to say a chance happening, or that which happens beyond a person's control. Believing that Fortuna as Machiavelli calls it, controls everything, so that there is no use in trying to act. Others simply refuse to believe that they don't have control over their lives and choose to believe in free will instead. In the power of personal choice. Often with great deal of defiance.

A man who is observant and honest with himself will come to realization that it is both of these forces that define our destiny. They are intricately interwoven and make up the fabric of our lives. For the sake of simplicity we could say that fortune controls only half of one's actions, leaving free will to control the other half.

Fortune can be compared to a river that floods, destroying everything in its way. But when the weather is good, people can choose to prepare dams and dikes to control the flood. It is a matter of fortune or misfortune the kind of genes you are born with, but you can choose to make the most of it or dwell on its shortcomings. We can't choose in what time and place we are born, that is again a matter of fortune or misfortune. Being born in the rubbles of Poland after the second world war is not the same thing as being born in the place like United States in the same time period. These are the circumstances that are clearly beyond our control. However how we choose to respond to these challenging or favorable circumstances is withing our control.

It would be inaccurate to say that only one of these factors determine our destiny. It is the combination of the two. For better or worse. For instance. We can't choose our parents, but we can choose what kind of parents we want to be. Some of us are fortunate to have loving parents that help us navigate trough challenging process of reaching adulthood. Others might be less fortunate and may have parents that abuse them, don't undersetand them or simply have lose their parents in war, natural disasters to some illness. But what thing is undeniable and it is fully a matter of personal responsibility. And that is our disposition towards life challenges and how we choose to prepare for them.

What we choose to do every day, rain or shine is what become our habits which ultimately determine our character.

"It is not set speeches at the moment of battle that render soldiers brave. The veteran scarcely listens to them, and the recruit forgets them at the first discharge..." - Napoleon I Maxims, No. LXI (1831)

@Krunoslav I don't know what it is. but there is something, something that always hinders you from talking about your own country. So many words and quotes to deviate from talking about it. I respect your privacy. I rest my case.

@Naomi I don't feel the need to talk about my country because I tend to talk more about ideas of interests than about events, places and people. And when I talk about events, places and people it is usually in the context of larger ideological framework. If I lived in any place that would not oppress me, I would probably act in similar manner. As I've said, not everyone who lives in a particular place and time is the same. Some of us are individuals, regardless of external pressure and events. I respond to those events, but I'm not defined by them and them alone.

@Naomi I plead the 5th 😁

One way around the tyranny of the majority is an ante-based government.

In Ancient Greece, during the invasion of Persia, the Greek city states bonded together
to form a centralized power, and Themistocles of Athens was chosen as leader.
Why Athens? Because Athens brought overwhelmingly more ships to the navy than any other
city state.

Herb Kohl was a senator from Wisconsin who won the seat because he had a bigly record of philanthropic donations.

In a physics department, your salary and status as a professor hinges on how much grant money
you bring in.

Leftists see government as a money tree to be plundered. Turn it around. Make them ante.

1

Awwwwww I thought it was because you liked us 😉

That as well. Lol

Write Comment

Recent Visitors 25

Photos 11,776 More

Posted by GeeMacMexico admits it is a hotbed of drug trafficking, but not of drug use, according to its top politician.

Posted by JohnHoukReprising ShadowGate Documentaries: With Dr.

Posted by JohnHoukLest YOU Are Brainwashed to be Happy in an Age of Transformation Tyranny: Videos & Commentary to Refresh YOUR Memory to at Least Awaken Personal Resistance! SUMMARY: An examination of saved videos...

Posted by Weltansichtwell....doggies

Posted by MosheBenIssacMetoo in action

Posted by JohnHoukDr.

Posted by JohnHoukConnecting the Dots! Some AI Truth – What Used to be “Playing God” is Really “Playing Devil” SUMMARY: … Satan – the foe – has only one delusional recourse: Brainwash human souls ...

Posted by JohnHoukMy Intro to Documentary, ‘Let My People Go’ SUMMARY: Dr.

Posted by JohnHoukMedical Tyranny – A Look at mRNA Danger & COVID Bioweapon Exploitation SUMMARY: Medical Tyranny has become a fact of life that the brainwashing Dem-Marxists, RINOs and Mockingbird MSM work hard ...

Posted by JohnHoukDr.

Posted by JohnHoukIrritated With Transformation Yet?

Posted by JohnHoukVOTE TRUMP – Overcome Dem-Marxist/RINO Lies – Video Share SUMMARY: The first batch of shared videos reflects VOTE-FOR-TRUMP in the midst of Dem-Marxist/RINO government LIES.

Posted by JohnHoukA Look at Mike Benz, THEN Tucker Ep.

Posted by JohnHoukLooking at ‘The Great Setup with Dr.

Posted by JohnHoukEnlightening Videos of a Corrupted Society SUMMARY: … The thing is, TYRANNY today has become very multifaceted in how the socio-political infection of CONTROL has crept into the one-time Land of ...

Posted by JohnHoukMedical Tyranny Liars A Look at CDC, Big Pharma, MSM & Social Media Cartel Owners SUMMARY: I like the Natural News Anti-Medical Tyranny stand.

  • Top tags#video #youtube #world #government #media #biden #democrats #USA #truth #children #Police #society #god #money #reason #Canada #rights #freedom #culture #China #hope #racist #death #vote #politics #communist #evil #socialist #Socialism #TheTruth #justice #kids #democrat #evidence #crime #conservative #hell #nation #laws #liberal #federal #community #military #racism #climate #violence #book #politicians #joebiden #fear ...

    Members 9,397Top

    Moderators