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Well that sucks... The Mandalorian is my favorite show.
Damn Disney and the woke culture.

ACiiD 5 Feb 13
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I have no objection to Disney firing Carano; they exercised their right to dismiss a public-facing employee that does not represent the company the way the company desires. Conversely, Carano exercised her right to speak, even though the pro-Carano media following the story agrees that she'd been given several warnings from Disney and LucasFilm. She made a choice, knowing what the consequences would be.

(As an aside, I think it funny that the people pushing the narrative that Colin Kaepernick is being blackballed for his activism, are comfortable with Carano being blackballed by establishment Hollywood for hers. Draw your own conclusions.)

I do have an objection to how Disney carried out the firing. A simple statement that Carano and Disney had parted ways and they wish her the best of luck in her future endeavors, would have been sufficient and professional. But that's not what they did. For a company of that magnitude to provide opinion-based social commentary on why she was fired is the height of spite and pettiness and is clearly aimed at hurting Carano's future prospects in Hollywood.

(As an aside, I also think it funny that everyone screaming outrage at her "anti-Semitic" comments - which were not anti-Semitic in any way, shape, or form - are being trumped by an Orthodox Jew who wasted no time in inviting Carano to work with his production company.)

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Goodbye Disney.... Hulu your next

RobD1 Level 7 Feb 13, 2021
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I assume you are talking about Carano?

You realize she wasn't "fired" from anything. She was no longer under contract. Disney just chose not to re-sign her. As a private corporation, they have the right to choose who represents them.

Hmm, what's Kathy Griffin been up to these days?

You realize that they pressured the largest talent agency in Hollywood to dump her right?

Also your right private companies can do whatever they want thats why we hire them to censor us and make border walls and prison camps, and commit war crimes and for profit prisons and wage the war on drugs for us, because the FOIA laws don't apply.... and that makes you right

-see how fun justifying the subversion of our constitution by private entities is?

@RobD1 in your example, it is the government hiring private companies to carry out their direction - they are representing the government in those cases. I agree, in that case, they shouldn't subvert the Constitution - just as I think Christian entities performing government action should not be able to discriminate against LBGTQ people with hiring practices.

However, this isn't what is happening with Disney - they are just making movies and TV shows. No one has a right to be on a show. Many states are "right to work" states, where you can be fired for any reason whatsoever, and that is because the USA prefers corporations to people.

So, again I ask, what has Kathy Griffin been up to these days? Do you think we should make a big stink about her being removed from the New Years celebration events?

It is also funny seeing people who were crying about Star Wars being "too woke" for having Carano in the first place, and upstaging the male hero, are now crying because they aren't giving her more work.

@JacksonNought saying that you want the leader of the free world dead in one interview and then later holding up his bloody head is a far cry different from saying that the nazis demagogue’d their way to power and thats whats happening now to conservative opinion. Kathy is still on twitter btw. and prior to her 15 minutes of fame she was a D list celeb at best who was making the comedy club circuit which is now shut down in her state due to Gavin Newsom. Im sure no one would book her in Texas and Florida where clubs are open but she picked her audience. she wasn't getting roles before her incident except for 5 minute spots on morning shows to gin up rage against conservatives until she crossed an actual legal line....

also its worth noting that Disney’s Bob Igar is now a favorite to become ambassador to China so that policy will likely carry forward into international policy. enjoy the bed youve made for yourself when you realise that progressives are now being canceled just as fast as conservatives

You realize she wasn't "fired" from anything. She was no longer under contract. Disney just chose not to re-sign her. As a private corporation, they have the right to choose who represents them.

You are the first person to suggest that she was no longer under contract; if you have a source, I'd very much like to see it, especially since reports are coming out from multiple sources that LucasFilm has wanted to fire Carano since November and were looking for pretext to do so. It also makes it rather strange that LucasFilm would make a statement about parting ways with Carano if she were no longer under contract.

But having said that, I agree that Disney is within its right to dismiss a public facing employee that does not represent the company in the manner in which it wants.

Where I take exception is the unnecessary character assassination on the way on the door, in characterizing her comments as "abhorrent." Whether you believe her comments to be out of line or not, you do not fire people and then broadcast to the world why you're firing them. That is not only the height of unprofessionalism but it's spiteful and petty and clearly aimed at harming Carano's ability to find work in the establishment Hollywood.

@Alysandir it comes from the Lucasfilm statement: [movieweb.com]

Gina Carano is not currently employed by Lucasfilm and there are no plans for her to be in the future.

They clearly didn't say they cut ties with her or fired her, as they did when they fired James Gunn ("we have severed our business relationship with him" ). All interpretations I have seen have been that she was contracted to be in The Mandalorian per season. There were rumors she'd be in the third season, or potentially get her own spin-off series, all of which were still speculated despite her controversial transphobic and covid-denial social media posts. It wasn't until her latest posts that Disney / Lucasfilm made a decision to stop all future plans.

Disney is a corporation that needs to maintain positive PR. Of course they had to put out a message to prevent negative press or guilt-by-association. Carano equated criticism of political views, including Twitter bans for encouraging insurrection and trying to undermine Democracy, as being the same as Nazis rounding up and killing people based on their ethnicity. I find that pretty abhorrent, and I liked Carano. I saw her previous posts as problematic, but I still enjoyed her as an actor (I loved Haywire) and liked her character in The Mandalorian, but the latest comments were a bit much.

@JacksonNought

You gave me what I asked for; thank you.

Having said that, there's something rotten in Denmark. If she was indeed out of contract, Disney didn't need to say a word. If they felt the need to say something, all they had to say is that they do not have a current business relationship with Carano and nothing planned for the future. After all, although it was heavily implied that she would be the key star of "Rangers" she has never been publicly identified as the star of that show.

It wasn't until her latest posts that Disney / Lucasfilm made a decision to stop all future plans.

It's a little more complex than that, from accounts. The Favreau and Filoni faction within LF wanted her; the Kennedy faction did not and just as importantly, were willing to do anything to stick it to the F&F faction. Again, reports were coming out that they wanted to fire her after she made public comments about election integrity, but the timing was wrong given all the good will LF earned from the finale of Mandalorian and the return of Luke Skywalker.

Carano equated criticism of political views, including Twitter bans for encouraging insurrection and trying to undermine Democracy, as being the same as Nazis rounding up and killing people based on their ethnicity.

Respectfully, that's not correct. Here is exactly what she said:

“Jews were beaten in the streets, not by Nazi soldiers but by their neighbors…even by children. Because history is edited, most people today don’t realize that to get to the point where Nazi soldiers could easily round up thousands of Jews, the government first made their own neighbors hate them simply for being Jews. How is that any different from hating someone for their political views”

You are free to apply your own interpretation to her words, but I see someone trying to remind people that history shows us vilifying people for their beliefs can lead to horrifying results.

Furthermore, on the subject of "encouraging insurrection and trying to undermine democracy," this is what she said:

“We need to clean up the election process so we are not left feeling the way we do today. Put laws in place that protect us against voter fraud.”

To be precise, no one from either side has denied that fraud took place; what has been said is that the fraud that took place was not significant enough to impact the outcome of the election.

I would like to take this one step further to say that there are a LOT of questions that people have about the election results that beg an answer, such as incredible statistical anomalies, votes continuing to be counted after observers were sent home, and states bypassing the rule of law in order to make changes to the election process.

However, the answers people have been given to their questions haven't been more substantive than, "we checked it; it's fine; you don't need to know anything else." Yet, if you don't let the matter drop, suddenly you're anti-democracy and guilty of fomenting sedition and insurrection. Hell, the MSM immediately started calling Trump anti-democratic for not conceding the election while the vote was still taking place!

That's not America; that's never been America. If that's what you believe America is or should be, I doubt you and I are going to come to a respectful common ground, although I support your right to believe about this situation and people like me, however you wish.

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Download from Pirate sites then, personally I gave up SW after sitting through No 8.

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Disney is a cancer on many things I loved growing up.

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I let go of SW along time ago. I knew it was never going to get anything but more PC.

Agreed, though you may think I've lost my marbles when I say I very much enjoyed the prequels. There. I've said it. And in many ways, I like the prequels better than ESB & RotJ. Ah, feels cathartic to get that out in the open, lol. Hate on me if you wish, but ANH, RotS & TPM are my 3 favorite SW movies.

@jamesdomus1861

Mine are 3,4,6 and rogue 1. Each to their own Dont understand why people are so precious over it.

@CookieMonster I know, lol. People have such a cow sometimes. Is Rogue 1 really that good? I've heard it was, but I've also heard it was kind of overload, like too many main characters who didn't get enough screen time.

@jamesdomus1861

I just thought it was well put together and connected 3 and 4 well. Main characters were fine, good cameos from the Likes of Forrest Wittaker.

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I'll never watch anything from the Disney studios ever again!

angelo Level 8 Feb 13, 2021
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