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I am no expert, but I have been talking to Business Owners, Realtors, and Bankers!!!
They all agree with my evaluation of the current situations!!!
IMHO, we are on the verge of an economical collapse greater than the crash of 1929!!!
I don't know how many USA dollars were in circulation, but I have heard somewhere between Seven and Eleven TRILLION just two years ago!!!
The Biden's "Covid Relief Plan" just added another TWO TRILLION, mostly to special interest groups and foreign interests!!!
I also just heard JOE is talking about another FOUR TRILLION in a new "Relief Bill"!!!
You do the math, if you double the supply of any commodity, you devalue the existing supply!!! YOUR DOLLARS WILL BE WORTH LESS/ AKA INFLATION!!!!
Also, "NOTHING IS FREE, SOMEONE PAYS FOR IT (GUESS WHO)???

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It's worse than that. This is the the first infractructure bill. Search info on the THRIVE ACT. It will be phase 2 and is estimated to cost $10 Trillion. That alone could destroy the USD.

[thehill.com].

In a sign of the battle to come, progressive lawmakers will soon unveil the THRIVE Act, which would provide $10 trillion for a federal green infrastructure plan that counters Biden’s infrastructure plan.

Here is the article, initially it mentions the current infrastructure plan at around $3 Trillion, half way down the page it mentions the THRIVE ACT, projected to cost $10 Trillion.
[theepochtimes.com]

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Thank you @wolfhnd for your post below.
I learned a lot from that and was a new perspective for me.
I did not reply to your comment directly as it got polluted by the local socialist.

Hanno Level 8 Apr 1, 2021

There's some truth in there... of course you see the light when a non-socialist says it!

@WilyRickWiles
One day when you say something useful and true and original that I have not heard before.... and this I swear to you, I will both believe and give you credit for it.

You may have forgotten but two years ago when we met I did agree with some of your posts and did on your recommendation read up and study democratic socialism and specifically The Democratic Socialists
Of America.

It is the discussions after that where I found that there is not much more to your arguments that we have fallen out in the past.

I don’t discriminate... if you tell me something new and true, I don’t care who said it... I will credit you for it.

@Hanno I remember that, but I think sometimes your disagreement is arbitrarily forceful or the result of blind spots. Then again, I am willing to suffer the consequences of my occasional trolling.

@WilyRickWiles
True... I will also concede that at some point I also got tired and allowed my blinds spots (and my temper) to get the better of me.
In general I do believe you are not a bad guy and have good intentions, and you probably think the same of me.
What is sad is that in history guys like you and me went to war against each other when we could have find a compromise that worked for most.
I hope in the next few years we could find that compromise and not get involved in the war that I fear is coming.

@Hanno

It's the lack of originality that drives me nuts. What are we here for if not to find something new.

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Money is not a commodity. When it was tied to gold it was treated as a commodity contributing to the 1929 depression.

It's tempting to think of the money supply as representative of the total of commodities being exchanged actively. The problem is that similarly to money commodities in a modern economy are abstract. What that means is not only is the value of commodities such as gold abstract but most of the economy is only indirectly commodity based. By extension the rules of supply and demand break down to some degree. Digital commodities for example can be nearly infinitely reproduced at little cost. There value is established not by supply but control over supply. That will increasingly become the case for all commodities other than natural resources as production is automated. Working with 18th century economic theory may lead to the wrong conclusions in the 21st century

Contrary to conventional wisdom the experience of the last decade shows there is no direct link between money supply and inflation. As long as the increase in money doesn't end up in the pockets of consumers inflationary pressure is minimal. If everyone was to liquidate their abstract assets and try to convert them to consumables that would cause massive inflation. That is basically what caused the 1929 depression. Only because the money supply was artificially restricted there was a deflationary cycle. It's why monetary controlers have been willing to lower interest rates to zero during recessions.

This theory of abstract value has a downside as seen in the Subprime crisis. While most of the blame has been placed on bad loaning policies the actual culprit was as much the derivative markets. The bankster ponzi scheme. Capitalism runs on morality. The idea of hierarchies of competence. Here the concept of competency extends to the abstract nature of markets. Clearly the derivative markets were incompetent morally. Society was morally incompetent by taking advantage of loans they could not hope to pay back because of a morally corrupt socialist administration. A perfect storm if you like where people wished to profit without added value.

The finally thing to consider is how diversity of value has ballooned as markets have become more abstract as both actual and abstract wealth has expanded. Depressions in some areas of the market place do not seem to have as serious an affect on other areas as was once the case.

None of the above means we are not headed for another great depression it just means that the old rules for predictions are less reliable.

That famous socialist, George W. Bush.

@WilyRickWiles

No the policies and ideology of the Great Society which if you know your history had more to do with power than concern for other human beings. When you start out corrupt things tend to not get better. That does not mean I was not in favor of ending poverty through some level of redistribution but the corruption means we just exchanged absolute poverty for spiritual poverty.

@wolfhnd Great Society died within a year.

@wolfhnd The corruption was racial capitalism.

@WilyRickWiles

Sure and it was racial capitalism that cause the extreme poverty in the world before there were any liberal democracies. That was certainly the case in China before it opened up to the West.

If all you can do is throw out slogans why bother?

@wolfhnd Why generalize when we know the specific history of this country?

@WilyRickWiles

You have never tested the propaganda you were infected by have you?

@wolfhnd Born conservative. The testing never ends.

@WilyRickWiles

Complex chaotic systems cannot be studied directly. You need to study nomological networks of cumulative evidence. If we are studying sociological phenomenon it is the only testing methodology. That means that cross cultural studies will be an important measure of any theory's validity.

That's all you are getting for now. What I would like from you is a theory that you have developed on your own. Rehashing text book theories is not fun.

@wolfhnd I mean, I don't think either of us are interested in fully hashing out a secondary argument.

@wolfhnd Odd though that you do not seem to apply the same standard to your linking of the Great Society and the 2008 crash.

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The problem is that the only thing that's inflated are the assets of the global ruling class, including y'all's hero Trump. Despite subtle ideological differences that have no real material basis, they're united and they're too big to fail. If they're truly afraid, the only solution is for them to pay a wealth tax.

This isn't something that we can fix democratically, because they have local governments in a stranglehold due to their dependence on property taxes. Ironically, releasing them would require more federal spending--but spending that actually went toward public goods and local governments--not just financialized real estate and what not.

Was he paid off?

@Beachslim And yet you seem to agree with some of my conclusions if not the narrative.

@2FollowHim He's a real estate mogul. Literally could not be more representative of our economy's emerging elite as manufacturing has faded and rent-seeking has risen.

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Well stock market is over priced. Houses are over priced. Covid destroying economy. I am surprised it hasn't happened yet. Must not be the right time yet

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ThE sKy Is FaLlInG! ReAlLy ThIs TiMe!

Chicken Little

The uber wealthy are eager.
RAT RACE for sure.

Adding a similar chart from [prospect.org]

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yep

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