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Ok so you won't take a vaccine that’s been tested for years and doctors say are safe because limited (some might say conspiratorial) evidence shows it can cause autism or other issues but you’ll take a vaccine that was put together in less than a year that doctors also say is safe and we do know it has some significant side effects short term and who even knows long term ones yet. yeah that makes sense. like i’m relatively fine taking other vaccines anti-vaccers are against because at least those have actually had time to be tried out and we can actually see both short and long term effects. Like doctors are saying all of these vaccines are safe so why won’t you take the other one’s then if the doctors are so trustworthy with this one that we still know very little bit about? For all we know it could cause autism too. and what is this vaccine even solving a virus with 99% survival rate for most people who get it. like come on this isn’t ebola where you catching it is 50/50. if my chances of getting it and dying it were that high sure shoot me up. I know most on here are more right leaning and dare i say far-right conspiracy theorists but could someone maybe who leans more right give me as a person who is high risk (diabetic being the most prevalent health risk among others) why it would actually make sense for me to get the vaccine? I’m bit stupid, i know doctors are financially motivated to push the vaccine so like i kind of want some actual statistics as to why it would actually make sense for me to take a vaccine that has barely been tested and could have serious side effects just because i have a higher chance if dying from covid. i have a higher chance of dying from a lot of things others don’t but that doesn’t mean i’m going to trust some new medication just because it could help and it doesn’t currently show any serious side effects.

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Fifteen days ago, wife and I got the jab and are on standby for the second shot. My 95 YO mother had both shots a couple of months ago. Just today we got news her nursing home has been infested by COVID. Thank all the deities she is immunized. We are all going to be wearing these damn masks until at least 80% immunity is reached. I did my part.

100 people in Washington contracted COVID-19 AFTER the vaccine. It is not as advertized by almost any claim.

@TimTuolomne 100 people you say? That's a nice round number. And, did the unnamed article state how long after the jab they died? Of what? What were autopsy findings? These are important facts to know.

@WayneHawthorne 2707 dead in Scotland after the vaccine according to a FISA report secured yesterday. I can find a bunch more.

The Strange Sinovac Vaccine Phenomenon, Countries Report Increased Cases After Using Vaccine
BY EVA ZHAO
April 3, 2021 Updated: April 3, 2021
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The Hong Kong government recently rolled out a large-scale vaccination plan against the CCP (Chinese Communist Party) virus, commonly known as COVID-19, but it’s been mired by frequent reports of serious adverse reactions. In just one month, 13 people died in Hong Kong after being inoculated, 11 of whom had been injected with the Sinovac vaccine, a Chinese domestically made vaccine.

The CCP has not reported a single case of serious side effects or death after it announced the administering of 100 million doses of the Sinovac vaccine in China on March 28.

But there are four strange phenomena of the Chinese Sinovac vaccine, analyzed as follows.

No Deaths Reported in China

The first reported death after vaccination in Hong Kong occurred on Feb. 28. On March 28, within just one short month, 13 people in Hong Kong, aged 55 to 80, died after receiving the vaccination. Eleven of them were given the Sinovac shots, while the other two had received BioNTech.

In addition, an elderly woman in her eighties died at home the day after taking the Sinovac vaccine on March 20, but the Hong Kong Department of Health did not report it nor publicize the incident. The Department of Health responded in the early hours of March 31 that “there was no direct causal relationship between her death and vaccination, thus not fulfilling the reporting criteria of AEFIs (Adverse Events Following Immunization).”

In an interview with The Epoch Times, Yuen Hoi Man, deputy spokesman for the medical policy of the Democratic Party of Hong Kong, criticized the government for depriving the public of the right to know by not releasing the information, which also affects public confidence in vaccines. He said that even if there is no direct relationship, the government should be truthful when an indirect relationship cannot be ruled out.

Experience the best way to read The Epoch Times online. Try our free app for a limited time.

Dr. Cheung Wai Lit, a Chinese medicine doctor, in an interview with The Epoch Times, also said that he suspected that there were other cases of death after receiving the Chinese vaccine, but there is no way for outsiders to confirm it.

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In response to the death of 13 people in Hong Kong after receiving the vaccine, authorities responded on March 30, saying that current data show that most of the cases died of cardiovascular disease and none of the individual cases were directly related to the vaccination.

However, Law Cheuk You, staff and vice-chairman of Hong Kong Hospital Authority, said in an interview with The Epoch Times, that “generally speaking, the possibility of some indirect side effects is not to be completely ruled out,” Law said, “in fact, many drugs have [side effects].”

Law said that there are cases of death after COVID-19 vaccination in other countries. But even in cases that may not have a direct relationship, the authorities will still give data. With the data, it gives others the option to choose the appropriate measures.

@TimTuolomne Yes, I found the report on falling death numbers in Scotland
[bbc.com]

@WayneHawthorne Number of COVID Vaccine Injuries Reported to VAERS Surpasses 50,000, CDC Data Show
VAERS data released today showed 50,861 reports of adverse events following COVID vaccines, including 2,249 deaths and 7,726 serious injuries between Dec. 14, 2020 and March 26, 2021.

This week’s VAERS data

This week’s VAERS data show:

19% of deaths were related to cardiac disorders.
45% of those who died were male, 43% were female and the remaining death reports did not include gender of the deceased.
The average age of those who died was 77.7 and the youngest death was an 18-year-old.
As of March 26, 341 pregnant women had reported adverse events related to COVID vaccines, including 104 reports of miscarriage or premature birth.
Of the 578 cases of Bell’s Palsy reported, 63% of cases were reported after Pfizer-BioNTech vaccinations — almost twice as many as reported (36%) following vaccination with the Moderna vaccine. Seven cases of Bell’s Palsy were reported with Johnson & Johnson (J&J) vaccine (1%).
There were 2,578 reports of anaphylaxis, with 53% of cases attributed to the Pfizer-BioNTech vaccine, 44% to Moderna and 3% to J&J vaccine, which was rolled out in the U.S. on March 2.
Using a broadened search for any reference to anaphylaxis in chart notes resulted in 15,193 reports, with 52% of cases attributed to Pfizer’s COVID vaccine, 45% to Moderna and 3% to J&J. With each vaccine, nearly 42% of anaphylactic reports occurred in people aged 17-44.
According to the CDC’s website, “the CDC follows up on any report of death to request additional information and learn more about what occurred and to determine whether the death was a result of the vaccine or unrelated.”

To date, the only information the CDC has published related to the investigation of COVID vaccine-related deaths and how those investigations were conducted is a COVID-19 Vaccine Safety Update via the Advisory Committee on Immunization Practices, published Jan. 27.

An interview in MedPage Today highlighted the shortfalls of the post-marketing surveillance of the COVID vaccine. Aaron Kesselheim, professor of medicine at Harvard Medical School and Brigham and Women’s Hospital in Boston, said we are seeing a lot of spontaneous reporting, a lack of formal post-approval studies because vaccines have only received Emergency Use Authorization and vaccines being given outside the healthcare systems — interfering with the ability to rigorously collect observational data.

Although the CDC and U.S. Food and Drug Administration (FDA) have various systems in place to monitor the safety of vaccines, they are not “up and running” and do not have adequate resources behind them, Kesselheim said.

According to Kesselheim, there’s essentially nobody keeping track of COVID adverse reactions in the U.S. and no long-term safety data, but emphasized that this new mRNA technology is “extremely effective and extremely safe.”

On March 8, The Defender contacted the CDC with questions about reported deaths and injuries related to COVID vaccines. We provided a written list of questions about how the CDC conducts investigations into reported deaths, the status of investigations on deaths reported in the media, if autopsies are being done and the standard for determining whether an injury is causally connected to a vaccine.

We also inquired about whether healthcare providers are reporting all injuries and deaths that might be connected to the COVID vaccine, and what education initiatives are in place to encourage and facilitate proper and accurate reporting.

It took the CDC 22 days to respond to our repeated inquiries. When someone did, the person told us the agency had never received the questions — even though the employees we talked to several times said their press officers were working through the list of questions and were reviewing the email we sent. We provided the questions again yesterday, and requested a response by April 7.

Breakthrough cases

On March 31, The Defender reported on the increasing number of “breakthrough cases” of COVID in fully vaccinated people. Washington, Florida, South Carolina, Texas, New York, California and Minnesota have all reported breakthrough cases of COVID, some of which have resulted in hospitalization and death. Investigations are underway to determine if there were problems with the vaccines or if people had been infected with a variant.

When asked about the increasing number of breakthrough cases during a White House press conference, Dr. Anthony Fauci, President Biden’s chief medical advisor, said it is something they will take seriously and follow closely, but breakthrough infections happen with any vaccination.

CDC issues new travel guidance, vaccine passports stir controversyThe CDC today issued new travel guidance stating that fully vaccinated Americans traveling within the U.S. do not have to get tested for COVID before or after their trip, and do not need to self-quarantine when they return home.

On March 29, The Defender reported that the Biden administration and private companies are working to develop vaccine passports that would require Americans to prove they’ve been vaccinated against COVID as the country opens.

Dr. Naomi Wolf, founder and CEO of Daily Clout, said the passport system really isn’t about the vaccine. It’s about your data, and “once this rolls out you don’t have a choice about being part of the system.”

Rep. Pete Sessions (R-Texas) said that vaccine credentials are a complete government overstep that will undermine public trust and substantially limit normal day-to-day essential activities. Rep. Lauren Boebert (R-Colo.) said “vaccine passports are unconstitutional. Period.”

On March 26, New York launched a digital vaccine passport system known as Excelsior Pass that residents can use to prove they’ve been vaccinated or recently tested negative for infection. The New York system, built on IBM’s digital health pass platform, will be used at dozens of events, including arts and entertainment venues.

J&J makes headlines with manufacturing mix-up, report of severe allergic reaction

As The Defender reported April 1, 15 million doses of J&J’s vaccine failed quality control after workers at a Baltimore manufacturing plant negligently put an AstraZeneca ingredient in J&J’s COVID vaccine. The mix-up forced regulators to delay authorization of the plant’s production lines and prompted an investigation by the FDA.

On March 31, Business Insider reported that a 74-year-old Virginia man suffered a rare reaction to J&J’s vaccine that caused a painful rash to spread across his entire body and skin to peel off. Richard Terrell told local news station WRIC he began suffering strange symptoms four days after receiving the vaccine.

“I began to feel a little discomfort in my armpit and then a few days later I began to get an itchy rash, and then after that I began to swell and my skin turned red,” Terrell said.

The rash spread to his entire body and his skin peeled off. He went to the emergency room, where doctors determined that he had experienced an adverse reaction to the COVID vaccine.

AstraZeneca suspended in Germany and Canada

On March 31, The Defender reported that Germany indefinitely suspended use of the Oxford-AstraZeneca COVID vaccine for anyone under 60 following advice from STIKO, the country’s independent vaccine committee and external experts.

The committee investigated reports of blood clots, some fatal, in people who received the vaccine and decided to give the vaccine only to people 60 or older unless they belong to a high-risk category where the benefits outweigh the risk of a serious side-effect.

As The Defender reported on March 30, several regions of Germany, including Berlin and Munich, had temporarily paused the vaccine for people under 60 after Germany’s vaccine regulator disclosed 31 cases of a rare brain blood clot, nine of which resulted in deaths. The decision was made as a precaution ahead of a meeting with national medical regulators scheduled for later in the day where it was decided to indefinitely suspend the vaccine.

On March 30, Canada announced it was suspending AstraZeneca’s vaccine for people under age 55 following concerns it might be linked to rare blood clots, The Defender reported.

Health Canada demanded AstraZeneca conduct a detailed study on the risks and benefits of its COVID vaccine across multiple age groups, and suspended the vaccine for younger groups pending the outcome of that review.

On March 24, Health Canada updated the product information for AstraZeneca’s COVID vaccines to warn of the risk of rare blood clots associated with low levels of blood platelets following vaccinations — a stark reversal from Canada’s former position.

Children’s Health Defense asks anyone who has experienced an adverse reaction, to any vaccine, to file a report following these three steps.

[childrenshealthdefense.org]

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I agree that it makes no good sense at all to take the vaccine.

And your chances of dying on the road are about 100 times greater than your chances of dying of COVID-19. Cars not banned. Nuff said.

yeah i mean im seeing my endo on friday and but like don't just tell me to get it because im diabetic. like if my chances of getting covid and dying really are that high then sure im not going to rule out a fairly untested medication but ive been diabetic for the last year and haven’t really been that safe so at least in terms of contracting it, i should have at this point and as far as dying if i catch it a lot of things could kill me if i catch it. the yearly flu could do that to me but at least that vaccine is actually tested which is why i get it when i know not everyone else does

@Joehlert11 I'm type II. I got Covid last Jan, and I wasn't even admitted to hospital, just quarantined. I self-medicated on Budesonide (a nebulized asthma medication successfully repurposed for Covid by a Dr. Richard Barnett from Texas) 2 to 3 x a day. They got me off the hurdle in no time. Get a dozen nebules, just in case. Or one of those puff canisters.

@eschatologyguy def an intriguing take. im type 1 and have other issues as well so that could play a factor as to how effective that would even be in my case. and i mean nit getting it at would also be better as well if just remedies are not a guarantee to work

@Joehlert11 Budesonide's effect was palpable for me. I could feel it work even as the nebulization was still going on. And its safe for even toddlers to take. Dr. Barnett used it with his patients in ICU, and they all went home in a couple of days. That should tell you something.

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