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This is interesting, no? Well, I observe so, anyway.
This meme was posted by a leftist (I reveal that much, not on here though).
This meme seems to imply that Hitler was far-right, so it is the right/far right who are trying to destroy freedom of speech. Meanwhile, it is a narrative shared by many rightists that Hitler was far-left, so it is the left/far-left who are trying to destroy freedom of speech.

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The political spectrum in Germany placed the nazi fascism ( they were the national socialist party)on the right end of the spectrum and communists on the left. The US political spectrum places socialists and communists on the left. They try to tie the nationalism of
the nazis to the right as they are ignorant.

dd54 Level 8 Apr 9, 2021

Hello. Yes, I'm familiar with that logic. I'm sure the left will argue against it. That's how the definition of fascism is not quite clear, I think. Depending on where in the political spectrum, one's understanding of fascism varies significantly.

@Naomi fascism is a political philosophy, movement, or regime (such as that of the Fascisti) that exalts nation and often race above the individual and that stands for a centralized autocratic government headed by a dictatorial
leader, severe economic and social regimentation, and forcible suppression of opposition.

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Who’s driving cancel culture??

2peros Level 8 Apr 9, 2021

Dunno... I don't play blame games.

@Naomi it’s not a game, it speaks directly to the post.

@2peros It is a game full of propaganda/ political narratives played by both the left and the right.

To be honest , Christians have “cancelled” Jews from all artisan and businesses guilds for centuries.

Similarly they have cancelled homosexuals etc until as recently this century.
Muslims/Hindus are no better.

Conservatives have cancelled communists since the First World War and still would do it if they could.

You just don’t notice it until you are on the receiving end.

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Totalitarian authorities don’t need a left or right...
we have had both religious (very conservative Roman Catholic style kings), patriotic (nazi style), left wing (Stalin style), right wing fascist (Mussolini) etc etc.

ALL of them oppressed free speech.

Hanno Level 7 Apr 9, 2021

High time to stop playing blame games.

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A free society built on liberty and freedom of the individual, the sanctity of person and property, will unfortunately, tolerate proponents of socialism. People can form communes and other forms of non-governmental groups such as religious sects, like the Amish or Mennonites. They might find it difficult because they have to control the individual and the general populace allows freedom of the individual. But that's another story. The point is that socialism can gain support in a free society, especially when people don't understand what it is. Reasoning and logic will keep it at bay for a time but eventually opposition weakens to the appeal of compassion and the necessity of government action in crises, such as floods, catastrophic events and poverty. Thus, the weakest point in a society that government can take over or invade is charity. It then appears to be a benevolent and benign force. It can provide public education, healthcare, protection from criminality and invasion from foreign forces. Onnce these things are achieved there is no taking them away. But then, what is provided as a "free" service to the public becomes greater in demand and taxes must rise to cover the increased demand. It's very difficult to argue that increased resources are necessary and generally they are given. At some point taxes cannot be raised further with out completely decimating the economy. The problem then is resolved by restricting services. Government by this time has reached a leviathan bureaucratic level and is now the master and not the servant of the people.
The crisis in Germany that allowed the rise of Hitler was the threat of communism. The holodomor had just occurred in the Ukraine and the fear of communism destroying Germany was palpable.
Hitler had been successful in driving out communists in some of the German city-states and he rode that wave to power. If Trump had done that he would have had people like Obama, Soros and Clinton arrested. But he was calling for reason and logic, law enforcement and the courts to prevail. Too many in power thought of him as an interloper though and he had little establishment support. As did Hitler, I suppose.
Hitler's manifesto reads similar to the communist manifesto, only on a national level. It was their similarities and not their differences that made them enemies, whereas, it is America's differences that makes it an enemy of socialism. Socialism pretends it is all about democracy and compassion until, and we see the shift now, we find it is about power, the centralization and grasp of it.
So yes, all forms of socialism are far left.

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In Canada it’s called a Turd-up. The English would say balls-up, the America’s a Fuck-up, South Africa it’s a cock-up.
Now I am waiting for my Aussie Buddies to enlighten me on their version!

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