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How to spot a moral panic.

WilyRickWiles 8 June 11
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There are more laws against teachers sexually abusing kids than schools sexually abusing kids… according to your logic we are in a “moral panic” about sexual abuse of children….

Hanno Level 7 June 12, 2021

That's false on many levels.

@WilyRickWiles

Unless you understand that CRT is as harmful to our society in the long term, as sexual abuse is to children, you will think that it false.

Unfortunately you will be an old man when all the chickens comes to roost. In South Africa, the people who instituted CRT there were all old men when apartheid South Africa finally fell.

@Hanno "There are more laws against teachers sexually abusing kids than schools sexually abusing kids" For starters, this is false.

But despite your faulty analogy, your comparison to South Africa gets us to the heart of the matter. When we follow your logic to its conclusion, CRT is just a dog whistle representing any aspirations for civil rights. Which brings our discourse back to desegregation in the US, no foreign case studies needed.

@WilyRickWiles
Of course my analogy is false, just as the original text you copied was false to start off with.
The fact is that CRT is now being pushed everywhere, not just schools but all media and by devious politicians.

The point is that it does not matter the number of laws and the number of schools, it is a harmful doctrine that has no place in schools.

My logic does not lead at all to the fact that CRT is a dog whistle for civil rights aspirations.
To the contrary, the civil movements of the past strongly opposed CRT. Remember Martin Luther King?

CRT was exactly what the founders of Apartheid used to justify it.

Is the US still segregated? Stop seeing race and teaching kids that race is important. And the racial prejudice will stop.

@Hanno I doubt you can even define CRT. The BLM activists in my community haven't even studied CRT. Most activists don't know what it is. How can that be anything but a dog whistle?

According to a conservative activist, CRT is being taught at hundreds of schools. [nypost.com] I'm sure he uses the dog whistle definition, but that is on the order of 100 compared to on the order of at least 1,000,000 children who are sexually abused by their teachers. For reference there are on the order of 10 states where state laws can be passed.

@Hanno Why in the world would you bring up MLK? Tell me how he "opposed CRT" which didn't exist during his life.

@Hanno Race blindness doesn't end racism because racism is systemic--it's baked into our asset-centric political economy and its history.

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A society decides to fight back against satanic CRT and they are in "moral panic"? The only ones in moral panic are the CRT/Intersectionalists because they have no morals!

How exactly is it Satanic?

Not a moral panic. Not critical race theory. You all are bad with definitions.

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Maybe because people have seen what Mao's cultural revolution led to, and they're trying to prevent that from happening again. Learn some real world history instead of Agitprop indoctrination

Tom81 Level 7 June 11, 2021

Here's some history: this moral panic, and this conservative movement, grew out of the fight against desegregation in the US. They've been calling any push for civil rights for Black people communism since then. Never mind that their narrative took a big hit with the end of the Soviet Union. But it's hard to teach an old dog new tricks.

@WilyRickWiles Here's some history: it was the dems who came up with segregation, fought against the civil rights push in the 60-70's, and their current ideology is pushing for segregation now.... guess it is hard to teach an old dog new tricks.
Btw, how are those communist countries out there going with their civil rights and racial equity?

@Tom81 You are a bit dim, eh?

@Tom81 you know those Dems were Right-Wing, as in today's Republicans? Why do you think it's the Republicans constantly crying "my heritage" regarding the Confederate flag?

@WilyRickWiles you don't know history and you're calling me dim? 😂🤣😂 Try reading more than activist propaganda.

@WilyRickWiles, @JacksonNought sure, everything you disagree with is 'right-wing'. 🙄... As far as the confederate flag goes, I don't give the slightest fuck. Still hasn't got as much blood on it as your mate's hammer and sickle flag.

@Tom81 I long for the day when we treat each other by the content of our character and our arguments, not the color of our flags.

@WilyRickWiles then abandon CRT and the poisonous marxist/communist ideology. All it does is divide and destroy

@Tom81 You don't even know what it is.

@WilyRickWiles I've lived in it's shadow. It's you who doesn't know what it is.

@Tom81 no, it is quite literally a historical fact that Democrats that fought against civil rights were right-wing, before the parties essentially switched.

@JacksonNought at it's core, there's not much difference between extreme left and extreme right. They're more similar than different. In recent times, the left has gone more extreme, whilst the right has shifted a bit left and become more centre.
And historically, since the Russian revolution, the left have done more to erode civil rights than anyone else. That is a fact you're ignoring to play partisan politics.

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So it's a moral panic to create fire breaks before the next wildfire is started. Instead, we should wait for the wildfire to be good and raging hot before we think about how we're going to contain it.

Interesting strategy.

The moral panic is over institutional racism for which there is little evidence.

The progressive movement has been a colossal failure. They are just digging holes looking for someone besides themselves to blame.

@wolfhnd There's little evidence? Can you at least admit that housing policy during the FDR administration was racist?

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It isn't really about teaching CRT so much as teaching almost everything through the lens of CRT, queering the curricula, or decolonizing maths. It the viewing of every fucking thing through Critical Theories of whatever sort that's the issue.

govols Level 8 June 11, 2021

You just made up a very ill-defined (so much so that we can't even have a discussion of its merits) problem that does not exist. Which is the point.

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Don't forget to freak out about 6 Dr. Seuss books being taken out of print by only ever talking about the books that aren't being taken out of print.

GOOD , that is some insane BS

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