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It has become a clichè to ask who’s pulling Joe Biden’s strings. From the start it’s been clear that he would not have the mental capacity to actually perform the job in which he’d been installed. So the underlying question has always been, who’s really running the government?

Now we know. No one. There is no government. Instead our ruling elites have devolved into a gaggle of warring tribes, much like the country from which they are so ineptly trying to extricate themselves. If there is a guiding philosophy to be found, Kamala Harris offered its most articulate expression, when refusing to address the nation Sunday night: “You’re not pinning this shit on me!”

What did you expect? That ideologues who have made a religion out of attacking the “meritocracy” might hold their positions on the basis of some degree of merit? From the top down, this regime is comprised of incompetents and political hacks who have never held a real job that the public didn’t pay for and whose CVs reveal no accomplishments beyond a rat like ability to survive the treacherous environment of government appointments, think tank assignments, and safe havens in academia.

At least Joe Biden received some votes, which is more than Kamala Harris can claim, even as she measures the White House windows for drapes. Her only qualifications for the job she now holds is that she’s “black” (kind of), and she’s a woman.

The rest are there to advance the progressive agenda, and national security or the health of the nation be damned. No point in listing the disasters thus far inflicted on the populace by this sham administration: anyone who wants to argue that Biden and his minions are doing a good job is not worth the time and energy to refute them. Everyone else (those with brains) know all too well what’s happening.

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"It has become a clichè to ask who’s pulling Joe Biden’s strings."
I will disagree. I do not think he is properly controllable in that way. My example would be the pull out from Afghanistan. The military machine was strongly pushing for different order and method but Biden went his own way. Possibly in a snit.
Which is why I strongly oppose any 25th amendment push. I think Harris is more easily manipulated.

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"So the underlying question has always been, who’s really running the government?"

YES! Who decided on Biden, who thought Harris was a good choice? Who propped up Hilary Clinton? Who decided Bernie Sanders must be scuttled? Who decided Trump must be scuttled? Who decided Brexit must not happen? Who decided the pandemic shouldn't be called a pandemic? Who decided to quash information about the virology lab? Who killed Epstein? Who decided there should be no investigation into Epstein?

Why is there no curiousity out of the various media platforms?

Of course, when it is Democrats there is always some sort of deep state in control and some shadowy figure in the back pulling the strings. No Democrat actually thinks for themselves. Democrats only serve their masters and hate America. Rabble rabble rabble.

But with Republicans, they are all unique stalwart individuals in full control with only the country in their interests, noble warriors making bold sacrifices for all of mankind. But of course if they aren't they are RINOs. No True Scotsman on full display.

Yes, it is entirely cliché to ask who is pulling Biden's strings, because it is a tired old deflection tactic fueling outrage culture to insist Biden is some walking vegetable propped up for some conspiracy to force in Harris, being controlled by a foreign government meant to destroy America and turn it into Venezuela... but of course the former guy was a stable genius who knew science better than scientists and had no plans to turn the country into his personal authoritarian piggy bank at the behest of his masters...

@JacksonNought Over half my examples were not democrats. I am intrigued that you interpreted it that way though.
Unless there's something you know. (Sideways glance.)

@JacksonNought My Biden example was based on his poor primary performance, he got something like 1/4 the support Trump got. I didn't mention anyone pulling his strings and yet you go there immediately to defend him. Hurm...

@Penrodster

Who decided on Biden, who thought Harris was a good choice? Who propped up Hilary Clinton? Who decided Bernie Sanders must be scuttled? Who decided Trump must be scuttled?

A lot of examples of Democrats being put in power, or Republicans being rallied against. No questions of who propped up Trump, or covered up his actions, and destroyed anyone who spoke against him. No questions of McConnell and his hijacking of Congress to block all Dem judicial appointments but ram through any Rep judicial appointments.

As for Epstein, didn't he die with Trump in power? And didn't Trump wish his co-conspirator well, and spoke highly of both of them? Hmm... well that certainly raises questions.

@Penrodster Edgework's whole reason for this post was claiming someone was pulling Biden's strings. I was responding to both of you.

And Biden won because of how awful Trump was. Most of Biden's votes were not pro-Biden, they were anti-Trump. If Trump hadn't royally fucked up the pandemic response, he'd probably have won a second term.

@JacksonNought McConnell blocks judicial appointments if he has the power.
Thanks, "who props up McConnell and why is no one interested?" would have been an excellent addtion.
Epstein died under control of the department that falsified evidence to continue surveillance of the Trump administration.
Bernie Sanders is now a republican. Obviously I've fallen behind in world events.

@Penrodster I will add more then.

Who props up the most vocal sycophants, like Cruz, McCarthy, Graham, and sexual abuse apologist Jordan? Who keeps covering for pedophile Gaetz? Who keeps spreading Q conspiracies and propping up peddlers like Greene and Boebert? Who keeps giving power to the lunatic fringes like Lindell and Giuliani and Powell? Who keeps promoting the "big lie" and using false narratives about election fraud to further gerrymander and strip voting rights?

@JacksonNought Of the people you mention that I have specifically looked into... you make stupid accusations. Read more.

What I've looked into the Q conspiracies look to be manipulation by both sides, loons and trolls.

"Big lie" Ahhh, we have identified your source of information.

I don't see anyone driving Lindell, he seems to be a force unto himself. He's to nutballs for me to follow well. I do look forward to router data, times and sources, for voting machines that were not connected to the internet.

The left needs to be involved in the election audits or it will be used for gerymandering.

By "Stripping voter rights" do you mean signature verification on a ballots that was dropped off by a third party? Once again, the left needs to be involved in the audits. Watching to make sure they are fair and as a check on future election security measures.

@Penrodster please explain how my accusations are "stupid".

Explain how Cruz spent tremendous effort spreading the word that Trump was a malignant narcissistic conman, one who viciously attacked his wife and father, but then decided to follow him lock-step and act like he was the second coming of Jesus. Explain how Graham spoke at length about the evil of Trump and how Biden was as nice a person as he knew and would be a great leader, and during the blocking of Garland he said to use his words against him if it happened under a Rep, and then changed his narrative to Trump being a god-king and Biden literally being the devil, and twisted himself into knots to excuse forcing through Barrett after people were in the middle of voting.

Explain how Jordan covered up sexual abuse while he was a wrestling coach, but it still one of the most powerful Congressmen in the party of "family values" and "Christian morality".

Explain how Q conspiracies are touted by Trump supporters, and even championed by Republican Congressmen and the former president himself. Explain how Q supporters like Greene will assert, without a shred of evidence, that there was a child trafficking ring under a DC pizza parlor and that there is a video of Hillary Clinton peeling off a child's face and eating yet, but shrugs off credible evidence and investigations into child trafficking from her BFF Gaetz.

Explain how the former president promotes the big lie, and gives credence to the lunatics like Giuliani and Lindell and Powell. Explain how Lindell is propped up by right-wing propaganda media, like Fox and OAN and TruNews, and championed by Republicans. Explain how Republican governments are giving authority to uncertified groups like Cyber Ninjas to perform sham audits to support their narrative.

And no, I am not talking about signature verification. Hell, I am not even talking about voter id. I am talking about closing polling centers. Reducing voting hours. Forcing heavy-Democrat areas to wait in lines for 10 hours to vote, while their Republican areas can be in and out in 5 minutes.

@JacksonNought You are an obvious victim of the MSM, if you are not of the media yourself.

@FrankZeleniuk you are an obvious victim of right-wing conspiracy media, like OAN, if you are not of the fringe yourself.

@JacksonNought Not a victim at all.

Like General Milley, I have read Marx and that doesn't make me a Marxist. But unlike General Milley, I have some comprehension skills and can see communism at work. You might think of it as "democratic socialism", something a little more palatable to the American progressive.

A right wing conspiracy doesn't exist. For instance, Calling American conservatism a right-wing conspiracy is Democrat socialism's response to political opposition and would be a standard socialist response to all political opposition. Of course, vaccine passports are unconstitutional. Of course, a mandate for a single prescription for everyone's health is, unscientific, unconstitutional and dangerous. Of course, an open border is a disaster and according to the DHS unsustainable - unless talking to the press - then it's "a plan is in place". Of course, the CDC fudged the covid numbers for Florida. Of course, national security is threatened by compromising material from Hunter Biden's laptops. Of course, America is a laughing stock in the international community - especially in communist China.

Communism/socialism cares "nought" for the individual, Jackson.

@FrankZeleniuk "not a victim at all" so you are a peddler then.

Gotcha, so right-wingers are never wrong, they can't have conspiracies because they are always correct. Is that what you are saying?

@JacksonNought "please explain how my accusations are "stupid"."
You've made random accusations in the past about the police beaten to death on jan 6th.
I have only heard the Q conspiracies spouted by CNN et al who applied it to their enemies. I've wasted my time several times trying to track down your conspiracies, like the gay bishop "outed by right wing group." Or the cop stomping on the guy he just shot.

I hope the attack on Peterson is about the "enforced monogamy." That would be special and extra funny.

Your conversations are hard to follow, like a squirrel with a machine gun.

@Penrodster well now you are proving you are nothing but a troll, or you really are that mentally deficient. So you don't listen to actual QAnon people espousing their beliefs? We have several Q followers in Congress - I guess they just don't exist to you? Actual video footage is just made up to you?

Yet here you are, agreeing with everything Edgework is saying? So where is your actual evidence that someone is propping up Biden and pulling his strings? Sounds like you and Edgework are the one with "stupid" accusations.

@JacksonNought

Gotcha, so right-wingers are never wrong, they can't have conspiracies because they are always correct. Is that what you are saying?

Not at all. Mitt Romney has been wrong a lot.

Conspiracy theories arise out of a vacuum of facts and/or truth. There never was any evidence that Trump colluded with Russia and that lack of evidence, or vacuum, filled up with a conspiracy theory. It gained popularity with progressives because Adam Schiff kept saying he had evidence. There was a fabricated dossier paid for by the FBI and the Clinton campaign but that was all the "evidence" there was. The Mueller report didn't find anything solid on Russian collusion either but he kept the conspiracy alive by hinting there still might be collusion. A 30 million dollar, two year investigation to find collusion and it ended right where it started. There might be some Russian collusion. To set it right there never was any Russian collusion.

Facts and truth will always kill a conspiracy theory. Some may be so invested in a conspiracy theory that they won't let it die but it will eventually fade into oblivion.

Right now, there are a few conspiracy theories because questions are not being answered and obvious lies are being told. The Democrat party is gaslighting the American public. Covid is a danger but all manner of migrants, a lot of them with covid, should be allowed in and shipped around the nation. What conspiracy theory could we manufacture out of that?

We know what's happening. It's a global reset to build back better. Well, that means tearing down the extant structure. The question is what will arise out of that. We could make some great conspirac theories out of that because no one believes the usurpation of national sovereignty by a global authority is a good thing although all indicators are that it is the objective of world leaders. So who do you think will end up on top? The UN? Technocrats? The CCP?

@FrankZeleniuk I guess you are ignoring all the convictions of members of the Trump campaign / cabinet, as well as Trump and his family lying about meeting with Russian agents. But oh well. In the same vein, there is no evidence of the Democratic party and Joe Biden stealing the 2020 election, so that is quite literally a right-wing conspiracy. There is no evidence that Biden isn't in control, or that he will be stepping done to force in Harris - also nothing but a right-wing conspiracy. And the big QAnon lunacy, espoused by several members of Congress and former members of the Trump cabinet, is also nothing but a right-wing conspiracy with zero evidence. Yet the facts and truth haven't seemed to kill any of these conspiracy theories yet.

@JacksonNought

I guess you are ignoring all the convictions of members of the Trump campaign / cabinet, as well as Trump and his family lying about meeting with Russian agents.

Anyone associated with Trump was politically attacked. That can't be ignored. You have to ignore a lot to see why the democrats seem to be getting a free ride, along with BLM/Antifa. And the media never seems to admit all the BS they feed to the public. And social media now acts as a censor of any view that differs with the Democrat narrative. So don't tell me I'm ignoring things.

Trump and his family testified before Congress about a 15 minute meeting, set up by the Democrats, with "a" Russian woman. I don't remember any convictions of lying to Congress?

In a nutshell, Trump and his supporters are vilified, smeared in the press, persecuted and set up while Democrats are largely ignored and even praised - at least as long as they can serve a purpose and some other Democrat doesn't want them out of the way - a la Andrew Cuomo.

there is no evidence of the Democratic party and Joe Biden stealing the 2020 election, so that is quite literally a right-wing conspiracy.

The Election seems odd. No? Anyway, Dems are not going to admit anything. Evidence has to be looked for. The harder the Dems try and prevent even looking, the worse it appears.

the facts and truth haven't seemed to kill any of these conspiracy theories yet.

Obviously, they are not facts or truth.

@FrankZeleniuk Trump never testified before Congress. That is a lie.

So political rivals are attacked? Okay, so then you admit the several Benghazi hearings on Hillary were politically motivated and a stain on our Democracy. Same goes with all the "birther" stuff with Obama, hacking Podesta's emails and starting the QAnon psychobabble, everything to do with Hillary's emails, and the sham election audits and "big lie" of Biden stealing the election.

Democrats are not "largely ignored and even praised". Are you kidding me? All prominent Dems called for Cuomo to resign. Eliot Spitzer was forced to resign over patronizing a sex worker. Anthony Weiner was forced to resign over online infidelity - before anything more nefarious came to light. Al Franken was forced to resign over inappropriate jokes. John Edwards had to go away because of an extramarital affair. Katie Hill was forced to resign over a sex scandal. Bill Clinton was impeached because of an extramarital affair.

Now let's look at some Republicans. Newt Gingrich is a golden boy, one who pursued the Clinton impeachment, despite cheating on several wives - including serving divorce papers to one while she was in the hospital for cancer surgery - and also having an affair with a staffer. Brett Kavanaugh's appointment was forced through, despite credible evidence of sexual assault. Lauren Boebert is out there making the rounds, despite marrying a man after he exposed himself to her and minors in public. Matt Gaetz is out on his popularity tour, despite being investigated for credible evidence of sex trafficking. Jim Jordan is still extremely powerful, despite covering up sexual abuse when he was a wrestling coach. Greg Gianforte body-slammed a reporter, and was re-elected 2 years later. Oh, and of course we can't forget Trump, who has dozens of credible sexual assault accusations against him, and who admitted to sexual assault and pedophilia.

So don't give me this crap that Dems are somehow untouchable, or even praised. They get all the accusations of being Communists, being Moloch baby sacrificers, sexual deviants, lazy moochers, mentally deficient, whathaveyou. It seems the only thing that can take down a Republican now is disagreeing with Trump, a la Liz Cheney.

@JacksonNought

Trump never testified before Congress. That is a lie.

Yes. you are right. You said:

Trump and his family lying about meeting with Russian agents.

I assumed you might give me enough credit to understand that it was Trump Jr. that testified before Congress. Where President Trump lied regarding meetings with Russians, I have no idea.

Democrats are not "largely ignored and even praised". Are you kidding me? All prominent Dems called for Cuomo to resign. Eliot Spitzer was forced to resign over patronizing a sex worker.

I guess you didn't read my whole statement. The part about where Dems will only get rid of other Dems when they no longer serve their purpose, as determined by the leadership of the Dem party, or someone else wants their job.

Spitzer wanted to be governor and Cuomo saw the threat. Now the current AG wants Cuomo's job so she condemned him and let others take up the knives. Al Franken resigned over a joke? Do you believe that? A joke? Someone told him he had to go. Probably, because someone might poke around into how a bunch of votes for him were found in the trunk of someone's car. John Edwards killed his own campaign. I think there were a few others that wanted to be President and were glad to have him go.
Bill Clinton was impeached for having an extra-marital affair and lying under oath. "I never had Sexual relations with that woman." Imagine that. Anthony Weiner? He got away with sexting once but the second time things were a little too hot around Hillary and he was too close to her, him being married to her Chief of Staff. Hillary didn't want any more possible sources close to her that might have anything to say about her secret e-mail account and server. And it might be hard to protect him a second time.

So political rivals are attacked? Okay, so then you admit the several Benghazi hearings on Hillary were politically motivated and a stain on our Democracy.

The several Benghazi hearings on Hillary were not necessary? Do you realize what you are saying? An Ambassador and three other Americans died in that scandal. Then - she lied, and that has been proven, that it was a spontaneous attack caused by an anti-Islamic movie some ex-Muslim made in LA.

All unfounded political attacks are a stain on any democracy. Those hearings on Benghazi were not unfounded and she still managed to skate.

All of this back and forth is rather moot though. The point is you are unhappy with America and are only too glad to see it torn apart and built back better. Without even having a clue as to what "better" means. While Americans were becoming complacent and arrogant and do need a little jarring to humble them and wake them up to restore some of the founding principles that made it great in the first place, you yourself are probably in the best country you could be in. A place where you can hold your unorthodox views and not be jailed, hung or beheaded. There might be some places in Europe but they are becoming increasingly intolerant. They are a little bit ahead of the curve on their "progressivism" but will not be turned into victims in their own country.

@FrankZeleniuk I don't know if I've read anything so tribal and blinded by bias before. Anything on your side of the aisle is proper and patriotic and poor martyrs being unfairly targeted, anything on the other side of the spectrum is demonic and anti-American and full of shadow conspiracies and false flags. No, it can't be that some Democrats got tied up in sex scandals or criminal activity and were held accountable... no it must be all some sort of puppet master. Funny that you completely skipped over all of the Republicans embroiled in scandals. What, no wild theories about why they remain in power despite going against the exact values they espouse and being guilty of the exact crimes they accuse the Dems of?

You seem in full support of the Benghazi hearings, but I think it's the safe assumption that you were completely against any of Trump's impeachments. Investigations into a Dem - good. Investigations into a Rep - bad. No matter that a Republican president admitted he'd accept foreign interference without telling anyone, directly asked for foreign interference live on TV, and admitted to treasonous acts live on TV as well.

It's funny that You seem to have ideas about what's best for America, or what different groups want, yet you don't even live here. You are just commenting from afar with no stake. You'd be happy to see the country divide and burn, and all the people you disagree with murdered - and you won't have to left the finger. All of this back and forth is rather moot though. The point is you are unhappy with America and are only too glad to armchair quarterback to try and tear it apart and set it back to the "good old days' where Puritans could drown women as witches and gays were murdered. You want to "make America great again" without even having a clue as to what that means or when it was last "great". What founding principles have we strayed from? Freedom of speech and freedom of religion is stronger than ever - despite the American conservatives trying to set it back to a Christian theocracy. Civil rights are better than ever - despite American conservatives trying to rollback decades of rights for minorities and women and LGBTQ.

Why don't you move to America and try to change it from the inside?

@JacksonNought I made the horrible mistake of agreeing with a point of yours, my mistake thinking this was a conversation.
The traits you hate from Lindell are all traits you have. You are an unabashed conspiracy theorist that machine gun sprays their accusations across anyone nearby. I apologize unreservedly for engaging. I apologize for any harm I have imparted. Be with God.

@JacksonNought

I don't know if I've read anything so tribal and blinded by bias before.

Go back and read some of your posts.

Investigations into a Dem - good. Investigations into a Rep - bad.

Corruption anywhere should be investigated. Politically targetting someone and making up crap is corruption itself. Example: A private email server to conduct government business on is illegal and a threat to national security. No charges recommended. Russian collusion totally made up but turns into political witch hunt.

All governments need to represent their citizens and put the nation first. That is all that is needed.
The citizens need representation.
Dems seem interested in global interests and, unfortunately, convinced their sheep that they are not important but global interests are. They seem willing to fall on their sword for the cause. Enter mad science - with a heavy emphasis on dialectical materialism. Let's start by getting everyone mad at white's and European civilization - because capitalism, you know.

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