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I was watching a series of documentaries about WWII and National Socialism in particular.

What struck me the most was one quote, so familiar today.

Himmler once said to Freisler: "Be grateful for people with a bad conscience. They are the only ones we can be sure of. They have no where else to go."

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Hitlers Henchmen. (potentially relevant for our times and how some officials are acting)

Hitler's Henchmen is the most comprehensive film series ever produced on Nazi Germany and its leaders. In six parts series portrays the men who aided Adolf Hitler in his rise to power and serviced the infernal machinery of the Third Reich. Meticulously researched, it offers an unrivalled insight into the secret lives of the men of the Nazi elite.

Created, ordered and led by Hitler, the state apparatus of Nazi Germany rigorously controlled all aspects of life in the Third Reich from cradle to grave. To maintain his iron grip on the German people through the ministries of his dictatorial government, Hitler surrounded himself with a small clique of fanatical, devoted acolytes. Men such as Heinrich Himmler, the much-feared chief of the Waffen-SS and organiser of the Holocaust, and Hermann Goering, the bombastic head of the Luftwaffe, wielded enormous power and held the fate of millions in their corrupt hands.

This series tells the inside story of the Third Reich, looking at the personalities, roles and rivalries of Hitler's closest associates; Joachim von Ribbentrop, the Reich's chief diplomat; Baldur von Schirach, the fanatic who moulded the thoughts of the youth of Germany; and Martin Bormann, Hitler's enigmatic advisor. The programs not only examine the actions of these infamous men, but probes their psychological makeup, determining how they earned Hitler's trust, became blindly loyal to the cause, committed deadly atrocities and remained unrepentant to the end.

Made in association with Germany's leading TV producer, HITLER'S HENCHMEN features never-before seen footage from both government and private sources, rare photographs, documents and eyewitness testimony that proves conclusively that these men were not just following orders, but willing accomplices in Hitler's crimes. Among those interviewed are members of Hitler's staff, retired German army officers, and world- renowned historians. It's the definitive dossier of some of the most reviled men in history.

"Hitler's Henchmen Volume 2" is a six-part sequel to "Hitler's Henchmen Volume 1", portraying the men who aided Adolf Hitler in his rise to power and serviced the infernal machinery of the Third Reich. They were the men who consolidated Hitler's reign and turned his plans into action. Hitler's henchmen wove the complicities and plots without which Hitler could have never perpetrated the crime of the century. They helped to sway the judges and the bureaucrats, the armed forces and the police, the scientists and the industrialists, the students and their teachers to the regime's ways of thinking.

What kind of men were they? What inspired them to serve a corrupt administration with such enthusiasm and devotion? How did their careers unfold and their fates end? This fascinating original German ZDF series answers all these and other burning questions by examining six of Hitler's most infamous cohorts. With the use of newly discovered film clips and sound recordings from international archives, the portraits of these aides-de-camp provide viewers with a revealing psychogram of 'Hitler's most willing executors', making it a must-have for anyone interested in military history.

Freisler: The Hanging Judge

Roland Freisler was a German Nazi jurist, judge, and politician who served as the State Secretary of the Reich Ministry of Justice from 1934 to 1942 and President of the People's Court from 1942 to 1945. He was a careerist, sadist who sentance people to their deaths with impunity and seemingly took lot of pleasure in doing so.

There was no justice to be found in Freisler's courtroom. The 'Blood Judge' would rave and scream at the accused, lecturing them and robbing them of all dignity before handing down the inevitable sentence -- death.

His name is synonymous with a parody of justice. His victims never received a real trial, but rather were humiliated in public. He handed down judgments that suited him. For the most part, the verdict was one and the same: death. As President of the People's Court, he was the main representative of the legal reign of terror in the Third Reich. Those who stood accused before the furious and roaring Bloody Judge had no hope of being able to maintain their dignity.

Himmler: The Executioner

Heinrich Luitpold Himmler was Reichsführer of the Schutzstaffel, and a leading member of the Nazi Party of Germany. Himmler was one of the most powerful men in Nazi Germany and a main architect of the Holocaust. As a member of a reserve battalion during World War I, Himmler did not see active service.

Himmler, the enforcer with his SS brigades was the most powerful of all Hitler's aides as well as being the most ruthless.

His brave new world consisted of concentration and death camps, security services and the Gestapo. No-one more typified the terror of the Holocaust than Himmler.

Heinrich Himmler's skill was in being unprepossessing. He knew how to exploit the advantage he gained from being long underestimated by Hitler's other aides. No one would ever have suspected that of all people he would become the most powerful man in the Third Reich after Hitler. Utilising newly discovered archive material, original sound recordings and exclusive eyewitness testimonies, a picture is built up of an unassuming but single-minded enforcer -- of perhaps the most willing, but undoubtedly also the most terrible of Hitler's aides.

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What struck me the most was one quote, so familiar today.

Himmler once said to Freisler: "Be grateful for people with a bad conscience. They are the only ones we can be sure of. They have no where else to go."

Krunoslav 9 Aug 27
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Per Himmler's comment, that's exactly why "Trump had to go."
Locker Room Talk was literally all they had. It wasn't that he wasn't well known---he was better known than almost anyone who's held public office.

He doesn't have a shadowy past, no secrets to squeeze him. So they had to "create" the secrets. Russia. Ukraine...That didn't work. None of it worked, sooooooo....the last gambit was to stuff the ballots. To the dispassionate viewer, there is no question. Under no circumstance did Biden receive a majority of votes.

There is nothing more vexatious to an operator than having to deal w/ someone who has no skeletons, doesn't give a damn about optics, is well liked by constituents, and has the juice and intelligence to bounce them out of the room.

Yes. Just like Communists and National Socialists.

The system was corrupt for decades, and no matter who was in office, republican or democrat, forign policy and to some extent domestic policy did not change all that much. Lefties were puling democratic party to the left and republicans being reactionary and rhinos followed, until they became more or less controlled opposition.

They got cocky and Trump surprised them. Once it the office, the system castrated him in just about everything they could, so he did not have much actual political power inside the system., but the real danger for them were his tweets that would bring spotlight to topics they did not like people talk about.

The biggest legacy Trump left was forcing these men of shadows to step in to the spotlight in order to get rid of him and now everyone has seen how deeply corrupt system is.

And off course ideologues use law as political weapon not as tool for law and order, unless they are in complete power.

“The conservative "thinks of political policies as intended to preserve order, justice, and freedom. The ideologue, on the contrary, thinks of politics as a revolutionary instrument for transforming society and even transforming human nature. In his march toward Utopia, the ideologue is merciless.” ― Russell Kirk

“Kirk defined the ideologue as one who “thinks of politics as a revolutionary instrument for transforming society and even transforming human nature.” Unleashed during the most radical phase of the French Revolution, the spirit of ideology has metastasized over the past two centuries, wreaking horrors. Jacobinism, Anarchism, Marxism, Leninism, Fascism, Stalinism, Nazism, Maoism—all shared the fatal attraction to “political messianism”; all were “inverted religions.” Each of these ideologies preached a dogmatic approach to politics, economics, and culture. Each in its own way endeavored “to substitute secular goals and doctrines for religious goals and doctrines.” Thus did the ideologue promise “salvation in this world, hotly declaring that there exists no other realm of being.” ― Russell Kirk, The American Cause

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If you have a gang of criminals working for you, they're likely to be grateful for protection from prosecution!

sqeptiq Level 10 Aug 27, 2021

Yup. Hitler would attract ambitious bureaucrats and future war criminals who had daddy issues. And so they would compete among themselves for attention.

Hitler was a big vision guy with no interest for details. So he would say I want Jews out of the Germany and Europe and he would give same or similar job to multiple people and have them fight over it for his approval.

And than they would try to come up with ways they think would please the big daddy.

Guys like Himmler came up with factories of death. Another guy in Poland simly offered Jews to sign they are German now, and on paper he germanized his province, because order was, germinize the nation not how to do it.

Another Nazi in Denmark simply let the resistance know the Jews in Denmark will be deported, and resistance organized migration of Jews from Denmark to Sweden, neutral country at the time. And on paper he got rid of Jews from Denmark. Easy.

But than it became important to have slave labour and fund the war effort, so they would kill the Jews, or have them be slave working labour, and stripped them of their possessions and use it to fund the war effort.

They try to do the same with Soviets. They calculated. Being German off course they would, that they would not need all the Soviets once they take over Russia. They would starve to death , they said 30 mill Russians because they don't need all the Russians as slave labor. The rest would be used as slaves.

Russians lost 20+ million men during WWII, Germans much much less, but in the end Hitlers gamble of fighting UK, USA and Soviets all at the same time was a gamble he was never going to win.

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