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Prime Minister Justin Trudeau was too afraid to call out Beijing late last night, even as two Canadian captives left Chinese airspace after being held hostage for almost three years. No surprise. Trudeau continued to kiss the ass of the Chinese dictators every single day of the 1,000 day ordeal.

Michael Kovrig and Michael Spavor were kidnapped by Chinese agents after Huawei executive Meng Wanzhou was arrested in Vancouver on a US extradition warrant. Huawei was caught breaking International sanctions on Iran and the extradition request was issued by the Trump Justice Department.

The Chinese released two Canadian hostages after a New York Judge struck the no-fault deal that Beijing had been demanding.

Meng’s father, a top ranking member of the Red Army and the Communist Party, built Huawei with technology largely pirated from the Canadian firm Research in Motion, makers of the Blackberry. The billionaire communist was under house arrest at one of her Vancouver mansions, living like a queen, while Canada’s hostages were held in stark isolation in Chinese prisons.

The ultimate insult to the captives is how the government and media tagged them with the whimsical nickname, “the two Michaels”. How much more palatable to think of “the two Michaels”, rather then two innocent men, whose sanity and lives were leveraged by authoritarian thugs to carry out an extortion plot on the Trudeau government.

While we welcome their release, Trudeau and the media have again, shamed Canada.

GeeMac 8 Sep 25
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Sounds like Canada has completely folded!!!!!!!!!!!!
Don't worry the US of A is not far behind!!!!!!
Then we can all kiss their yellow asses!!!!!!!!!!!
ARE YOU READY????????????????????????????

Serg97 Level 8 Sep 27, 2021
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This article lays blame at TRUMP'S direction and actually shows Canada got, maybe inadvertently bullied by US. This article shows the whole DEBACLE should have been avoided, Meng returned either to Vhina or US but NOT in Canada. [albertapolitics.ca]
Let us remember what Donald Trump was like, and how divergent the politics of Canada and US, how Trump blocked Canada from bidding.
But if Canada had REFUSED to be the patsy, the go between, just tell US,
'Come and get her by _____, or she's sent back, NO STALLING, none of this would have happened. The bully would put up or....!! Apparently the whole situation was highly unclear. US was doing NOTHING for Canada and we should not have given them this out.
This is a case where ALL FEDERAL parties should have been polled what to do,
it affected everyone.
On the plus side, Canada treated a high ranking official well. China isn't that unfair.
And the two men returned. They said there are FOUR MORE in prison.
We in Canada deserve and need details on this.
AND it looks like Trump may be in again as more is discovered.
Biden though is just as much an enemy to Canada , just friendlier as he stabs us.
I hold differently: from Justin's background, maybe both genetic and caregiver,
I think he will grow into a strong leader.
Before you mock, remember that I am FE too, so conspiracy theorist is where I look.
Time will show me. You'll forget if I'm right ✅.

It’s telling that the article blames Trump and let’s China completely off the hook. The fact is Meng was breaking the Iran sanctions through a fraudulent Huawei shell company, and she admitted lying about that. So the US was completely within the law to request her extradition from Canada as per our treaty.

The article offers unsubstantiated speculation as whether Trump had a hidden trade motive. Even if he did, it’s irrelevant. Meng and Huawei played dirty, and he called it. Under our existing agreements, Canada had to respond to the extradition request.

The bad guy here isn’t Trump. He didn’t take two innocent hostages and imprison them for three years. The villain here is China. First for using fraudulent means to break the Iran sanctions. Second for extorting Canada by taking hostages.

@GeeMac I couldn't copy and paste so I might have it wrong but I read TRUMP indicates he'd let her GO if he got his trade deal.
That just doesn't sound very serious.

The article indicates Canada got played. I'm really focusing on Canada.
If Trump would DROP it, znd it mentioned some of these sanctions to do with Obama.

Canada should have told Trump to get her or she returns.
I'd bet he would not respond UNTIL Canada returned her.

What China did or didn't do doesn't seem to have phased Trump.
Keep the problem where it belonged between China and US.

I heard Meng was tricked into getting off the plane.

And unless we know, we can't fairly accuse.

The more you study the very wealthy, generally, the more things found swept.
This is why I opted out of that system long ago. Never regretted it.

@GeeMac Had Canada GOT OUT, not been used, no hostages.
China is very powerful and the owner and daughter Meng are billionaires.
You've read how there's 2 sets of rules all over the world, not just China.
I'm glad though that Canada was good to Meng. Wars can start over very little.

@2FollowHim I get your points, and I’m not necessarily disagreeing. Maybe Trump had a hidden agenda, and perhaps there was trickery by the US. And Canada was definitely caught in the middle of a superpower showdown.

Regardless, Canada has a valid extradition treaty with the US and must consider their requests to extradite. Those provisions gave Meng the right to have the case heard in open court, and we followed the rules.

On China’s side, two hostages were snatched off the street and imprisoned with no due process.

My issue here is all the speculation about US “wrongdoing”, and assumptions about possible hidden motives. Only one of the three nations involved — according to fact — was acting outside the law. China.

@2FollowHim I checked out the source of the link you posted above, because it was so pro-Chinese and anti-American. No surprise the author is a university prof who did PR for the trade union movement.
I thought criticizing Washington, when Beijing was the one taking hostages was a strange position to take. However, the author’s woke leftist leanings explains it.

@GeeMac Good idea to find out bias. But I note that Meng went home, and a couple of days later struck a deal with Biden, or maybe Hunter as go between leaving Canada out.
I think Trump and Biden played Canada. I learned that Trump was very close partners to Epstein for 17 years. Until 2004, a falling out, and the article said what happened. A dirty trick by Trump on Epstein on choice real estate.
But Trump did win, too obvious. Finally Sydney Powell may get 'Kraken.
Maybe they'll hear her this time.
And I'm not convinced...yet...that Trudeau is the worst.
Not sure who'd been a lot better. Are you?

P,S. I'm glad you researched the background but are his points lies?

@2FollowHim no, the author is a well educated journalist, so it’s doubtful he’d lie. His leftist spin however, often stretches the truth. My problem is viewing the US as the bad guy in a trade dispute, when the other side, China, is grabbing hostages, and not being held to account.

@GeeMac True. I didn't clarify. I feel (under the circumstances), Canada should have sent Meng back, tell US to deal with it. I THOUGHT I read that for some reason, Meng was headed to Mexico. Was that business?
Send her on. I read that Meng was tricked to getting off the plane
(do you believe that?) and arrested. I smell set up, including setting up Canada.
And I don't think Trudeau got any points anywhere for taking care of zn American problem.

Sometimes, agreements are hiding things from us, so we can't comply, although we'd normally do so.

@GeeMac To me, China wanted this billionaires daughter back. Simple.
Little potato, Trudeau had her, take some Canadians. US was advantaged, costing them nothing.
Why is that? Send her on to US.
China was...corrupt but openly, transparently so.
They had to get bargaining chips.
BTW? I just read the 2 Michaels WERE SPIES for the CIA.
I think the plot thickens.
Yet, I think US knifed Trudeau.

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Canadians did not vote for this traitor to lead their country, of that I am sure.

Foz01 Level 7 Sep 25, 2021
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The cucks know better than give Peking any lip. Papa Xi will just give them more chores!

sqeptiq Level 10 Sep 25, 2021
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