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I've been playing with wrong think lately, and I'm beginning to think Enlightenment has broken the minds of we of The West. One problem is an idea of THE Enlightenment. There wasn't AN Enlightenment, but at least three trunks with various branches from each. Still, branches or not, the whole mess resulted into sort of a New World/Old World sort of division in how various societies map reality.

I understand that I really only have my own mind to judge by, but I don't very much think that I all that neuro-atypical so I assume first that my basic map is similar to those of most of my peers. My map is largely dealing in material physical cause and effect sort of ways of understanding and predicting. That's New World thinking. Old World thinking is more "spiritual(?)." Karma, the fates, the gods are angry, God's will be done.

Russia. Is Russia a Child of The West? No. The West is an odd duck. It rose from the ashes of the Western Roman Empire--in part as the Holy Roman Empire--but for another thousand years the Eastern Roman Empire was still Rome; Constantinople was the center of Christendom; the thing we call Byzantium was remaining a "Cult"ure, BEING orthodox and spreading all up in to Eastern Europe and far enough East that the line between Europe and Asia is obscured into oblivion. When Constantinople fell to the Ottoman Empire, the Old World center of Christendom--the third Rome--was Moscow. Russia is a Child of the Viking exchange with Byzantium and Persia. Russia, and much of Eastern Europe, are far more Old World than most in the New World can quite understand.

So, in the 14-1700s, Russia wasn't being renaissanced and Enlightend; instead Russia was keeping the candle of the ancient faith rooted in tradition and sheltered from the winds of the Protestant Revolution and the Catholic Reformation.

The vast majority of the Globe has been dragged into "modernity" by the political and industrial machinations of The West, but much of the Globe remains peopled with the Old World mindset that is distinctly different from that of we Light People with our Liberal Democracy and our Universalist Blank Slate Global Village ideology. The West has become Enlightened Globalist Homogeneous Neo-Liberal New World Order, and nothing about this materialism driven bull-shit sits well with Old World communities, tribes, peoples, or nations.

There is a chunk of the Old World who doesn't want to move into the Cargo Cult of the New World Order, but instead wishes to sort out its own baggage in relationship with neighbors rather than a global technocratic theocracy ruled by a new age Light People pantheon of i-god billionaires.

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the 'nothing about materialism...' statement reminded me of the scene in the movie 'The Green Berets' and they told the village elder that they would give him money if he moved his people into the base for their protection, he said "what is money?"

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Got the point.

The 4th revolution occurred just over a century ago. Russia was the first to move on it with the urging and financial assistance of the US. Yes, it is the west that wants to move into the new world that was being forged in 1914. Russia lived through it and it failed in 1989. Putin, has been there, done that. He knows where it leads. Back to the old world of pretense and lies in the name of political domination.

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