Did I strike a nerve? One does somehow need to judge a candidate's honesty, and their true agenda, no? I think the problem is that I provided an example that illuminates the covert military networks and true agenda of those spreading QAnon and other Satanic Panic sequels on communities like this one.

You bring up the example of the Green New Deal--I willingly concede that any plans to fight climate change under the current capitalist system will only shore up empire and corporate profits, even if that is preferable to the unrestrained expansion preferred by the far right. Moreover, both of our major parties are perfectly happy with depoliticizing policy administration and instead battling it out in the market.

Does it bother you to see the neocons behind the curtain?

@WilyRickWiles

You strike a nerve every time you post because I do not like you. There has never been any evidence to my knowledge that you have posted anything interesting or useful. I suspect that is why you hate capitalism because you cannot be productive and take your frustration out on a fantasy of how capitalism actually works.

Now I'm not a fan of capitalism or any other ism. Certainly not socialism or communism. History however shows that of the possible isms to choose from capitalism is better than the rest. Of course none of them have actually ever been tried because they are abstractions. The thing itself is always more complex than your mental image.

@WilyRickWiles @wolfhnd

Does it bother you to see the neocons behind the curtain?

Love to have them exposed! He doesn't fit that definition though. Neocons are old socialists that decided to run the Bush 43 administration under a committee called "PNAC" (Project for the New American Century) in league with warmonger VP Dick Cheney. Together they crafted the false WMD confirmation to justify the Iraq invasion.

@FrankZeleniuk I'd say the old Iran Contra types--anyone involved in global GLADIO-type and technology transfer operations, count as well.

@WilyRickWiles

Naw. Not enough interest in home-style internal social engineering. Just some questionable foreign shenanigans.

@FrankZeleniuk You don't think they were on board with the Patriot Act or you don't think that counts? You don't think MKULTRA, COINTELPRO, and psywar count? Besides, foreign policy is what the neocons were all about -- it's what distinguished them from other liberals and conservatives, though they seem to be all on the same page with slight variations these days.

@FrankZeleniuk Alternative label: the real deep state.

@WilyRickWiles The Patriot Act was all neocons. MKULTRA was a 50's to 60's mind control program run by the CIA not dissimilar to brainwashing programs run in the USSR. The CIA ran some of the experiments on unwitting American citizens some of whom suffered permanent psychological damage. The FBI ran cointelpro to ensure American stability and fight a psychological and propaganda war against communism.

Neocons came out of "liberal internationalism" and Trotskyism. I don't think the term was even coined until the 80's or perhaps even later.

@FrankZeleniuk The point is they're largely on the same team, more or less working on the same imperial project.

@WilyRickWiles Right. All socialists.

@WilyRickWiles The far right and the far left are both socialist, even on the contemporary political spectrum. They are just vying with each other for control.
This guy is not a socialist.

@FrankZeleniuk Horseshoe theory is between liberal "centrists" and the far right. They're capitalists and imperialists.

@WilyRickWiles Communism - the ultimate bourgeoisie state.

@FrankZeleniuk That would be capitalism--sad we never got to experience a pure bourgeois democracy here, aside from briefly during Reconstruction.

@WilyRickWiles Correct. The ultimate capitalists. Capitalism for me, not for thee.

To be more concrete, an openly practicing Satanist as opposed to, e.g. someone merely accused of Satanism by a conservative who doesn't like their politics.