An anti-abortion (meaning let's not kill babies anymore) guy defends his 12 year old son from a verbal assault by a bro baby killer POS. The government responds with this a SWAT team raiding the guy's home with weapons drawn putting not only the man and his family in danger of being murdered by uniform heroes, but all their neighbors as well because bullets don't stop when hitting dry all like they do in the movies. They keep flying and government thugs will use the strongest ammunition against citizens they can. Why do we, the people, need 20 round magazines. When the government sends it's thugs to take us down they come with 20 round magazines.
Can anyone name a single time the government sent out thugs in this kind of show of power and threat against antifa, and the BLM fascist wannabes when they were pillaging, plundering, looting, committing arson, and trying to destroy government buildings during Trump's time in office? Not that I ever read about. In fact, I read time and again how the government told their strong arm agents, their enforcers of government will (not law as they want us to believe) to stand down and only "enforce the law" when anyone defended themselves against these Brown shirts. Then, of course, the government agents arrested those defending themselves, like they are attacking this man for defending his son, and unborn children.
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Styrax
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Sep 26, 2022
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You said it well, an that is the crux of the matter. Freedom should be circumscribed by discipline, otherwise it becomes self-destructive.
Freedom does not come without responsibility. When folks refuse to be responsible they are not being free, at the very least they are being freeloaders and should be dealt with accordingly.
@KCSantiago, @Styrax When there's no perceived accountability and the world view is that we are all just a product of a cosmic accident, people have a tendency to get away with what they can get away with.
@eschatologyguy I just watched a movie a couple of nights ago that gave the same logic to current troubles. In it a man was saying Satan loves folks who are "good" people by their own definition and leave Christ out of the equation. They are the same people who tend to believe in everything being "free" while nobody should be held accountable either.
There are actually deluded so-called "conservatives" who, just like Leftist Democrats, also think that people can't actually be considered free if they cannot choose to have an abortion anytime they want. They think the Right wants to run their lives as much as the Left does. Wrong. I suspect Rome's decline and collapse was because of libertines in their ruling class. America is fast in decline because of the same thing.
eschatologyguy
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Sep 26, 2022
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I'm pro choice myself, but do not bitch about it afterwards if you made the wrong choice. Freedom is just that. Freedom to choose for yourself, but also the freedom to take the consequences of your choices. People have a hard time with the second part and that is why freedom gets taken away.
@Styrax Many are pro-killing babies as an inconvenience because the practice has been around for decades. It no longer seems the shocking and barbaric thing that it really is. Liberty is the freedom to do what we ought to do, not the freedom to do whatever the hell we like. Doing whatever the hell we like has a tendency to nip one in the hiney. Libertarianism is, in the final analysis, window-dressed libertinism.
A sad truth for certain. Makes me think of folks I know who claim to be Christian yet then say they never "force" their faith on their kids, they want their kids to make their own decisions. The contradiction is sometimes to hard to even begin to understand.
@KCSantiago Raising kids on a certain faith is also indoctrination. In this world it's hard to decide which indoctrination is good or bad or wanted even. Since kids can't choose people force things on them.
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