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You know, I'm actually getting tired of the right wing media calling out the duplicity, hypocrisy and elitism and approved of "look the other way" VIOLENCE - and there is no shortage of material to condemn the left. - and then tying their own hands by condemning the violence that happened at the capital. Six months of violent rioting that is called mostly peaceful. Four years of not recognizing the results of the 2016 election accompanied by harassment, bullying and false allegations of the elected President and even calling for violence against him. And the left claims the moral high ground. The Democrats did nothing to stop the violence before the election but it has miraculously dissipated after their election.

As I said though, callng out their duplicity, double standards and hypocrisy is ineffectual. They ignore the facts and highlight a vilification of the President and anyone who may be seen to support him. So calling them out for their deceit is a failing strategy.

Since January 6, 2021. I have seen nothing but apologies for the violence coming from the right, and far worse, abandonment of the President.

So here I go, we have to condemn all violence, even the violent force of government against its citizens. When they won't acknowledge their violence against their citizens that is constantly pointed out to them their is no alternative but force of a comparable level to bring them in line. They are not the masters of the citizens. They are the servants. Do we wait until we are arching to internment camps or the 2nd amendment is repealed before we can act because it will definitely require a much higher level of violence by then. So let's not tolerate the violence the Democrats have perpetrated on the American public. The question is how much force is necessary to accomplish that and the question of violence is only how much the Democrats wish to push. It's got to be put back on them and if a level of violence is necessary, then so be it. We don't want unnecessary violence, no one does. They stole the election and they know it or they would just allow everyone to look at any lack of proof or proof there was.

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Apparently, government only works if there is a threat of violence behind it? "Works", of course, is debatable.

It's been said before: "These are the times that try men's souls". Obviously, we are already at war. An examination of tactics is welcome. Thanks, Frank!

dmatic Level 8 Jan 13, 2021
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that's not a thing. Perhaps we are locked into a tragedy, but the notion that we can short the system by rising up and showing people how serious we are with violence is for comic books. No, I believe support for election reform needs to be lobbied at the state level. Florida did it right. Here in PA, the election was invalid and should not have been certified. This is obvious if we stick to the established facts. If presented properly, no one wants the shadow of a fraudulent election to persist. If enough conservatives acted like adults and unified over simple things like this, we can avoid this seeming tragedy. If we keep giving ourselves an out by thinking our guns will protect us, we are done.

" If presented properly, no one wants the shadow of a fraudulent election to persist. "

Are you sure about this?

@dmatic I have no doubt that the performers of election fraud don't want people to suspect their fraud. The people who gain power through fraud would also be disinclined to have the cloud of illegitimacy hang over them. Perhaps many anarchists would be happy to promote that shadow, so I guess there are some.

@RobBlair You are very gracious. Are u a democrat, by chance?

@dmatic ughh, that hurts - lol

No, I am solidly Republican.

@RobBlair Good! But, do you actually think that dems want truth of election fraud?

@dmatic - on the local level here in PA, I believe I can convince them that not checking signatures on mail-in ballots and not allowing the process to be observed and challenged is bad for everyone and quite contrary to the law. If I talk about dead people voting, inconsistencies with the process and issues with electronic voting, I will probably turn people away from dealing with correcting our corrupt election.

In short, no one should want to elect the person who can cheat the best and it is all of our interests to see that doesn't become the standard.

@RobBlair No one should! I agree!

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