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Of course the Russian war criminals will deny this attack.

Kramatorsk train station attack: Dozens killed, Ukraine says

Ukrainian official decries ‘deliberate attack’ on passenger infrastructure and residents of eastern city; Russia denies responsibility.

At least 50 people, including five children, have been killed and nearly 100 wounded in a rocket attack on a railway station in Kramatorsk in eastern Ukraine, according to Ukrainian officials.

In an online post updating an earlier preliminary death toll of 39 on Friday, Donetsk Governor Pavlo Kyrylenko said the 50 dead included victims who died of their wounds after being taken to hospitals.

[aljazeera.com]

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I, myself, am of Ukrainian ethnic heritage and I do not understand the clamor in Ukraine to join the west. The west is busy centralizing power for a World government. They are currently destroying the extant hierarchic structure where individuals are represented by their nation's government. National sovereignty is being usurped by international interests. Western democracies have all but destroyed any trust the people had in their governments by lying to them, being deceptive, not being transparent in their objectives, radicalizing society, but there are people still scared enough to cower behind them and accept their lies.

Why is Ukraine the center of all the turmoil? Because the US government has poured billions into Ukraine and many politicians in the US have gotten kickbacks from the corrupt American installed Ukrainian government. I find it rather incongruous that the west is hell bent to destroy any vestige of nationalism, vilifying it as right wing extremism, yet prop up actual national socialists in Ukraine to defend its borders. Why do they care when they are advocating destructive open border policies in their own nations? They would obviously prefer Ukraine not be a nation. But Putin is not on board with the World government globalists so in this confrontation Ukraine must not fall to Russia at all costs. Possibly, as a bonus, Putin will be able to be removed from power in the process.

Can we believe the scenes we see coming out of Ukraine? Obviously, there is a war going on. There is also propaganda. This has been true of any war. But in this war, Zelensky is an actor and there is a whole television production company available to him. It can be expected in any war to make the opposition look as atrocious as possible and you can bet Zelensky knows how television production works and can make it work to his advantage. It makes it hard to believe camera footage coming out of Ukraine. We have already seen the media relay fake news as being real simply because it fits the narrative of "Putin evil".

Don't forget as well that the US has a lot to hide about their dealings in Ukraine.

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@w0tn0t have not seen any bodies yet, last time they showed them the one corpse was re adjusting the tarp from blowing away, either that or it was from a training exercise and being use as propaganda

plenty of fool me once shame on you fool me twice shame on me

they have lied so much so often that I doubt any thing said, might as well be reported by CNN for reliability standards

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You lost me at Ukraine says.... seriously. How can they have any credibility left? Even if it was true, how many times does boy cry wolf before people stop paying attention? I mean, Ukranian officials have howled wolf more times than I can count and wolf turned out to be themselves. If the news are from the west, there is no reason to take it at face value, because why would you after so many lies?

By the way. isen't it funny how, Russians did not target the first thing war criminals would target.... trains and electricity, and Internet and the heating. And deliberately leaving trains alone, for civilians to go. Even if its bad militarily its politically important. And after Nazis are losing, all of a sudden Russians who are winning are going to kill civilians. Really? Makes no sense. It does however makes sense that desporate Nazis would do it to false flag and that is what they have been doing quite a few times. Why not again?

If you know anything about the conflict it makes no sense for Russians to do such a thing and makes all the sense in the world for the Nazis to do it.

But here is some more info. [twitter.com]

Tell this to the 4.3million Ukrainians who have managed to flee the war criminal Putin's war - given refuge in Poland, Hungary, Slovakia & Czech Republic. Many have related their horrific experiences & even those targeted trying to flee. The innocent Ukrainians have been targeted by Putin's military.

Putin does not care about lives - his power & control matter. The tyrant stated his aim was to oust the Ukrainian government & "de-nazify" Ukraine & restore his former dictatorial tyrannical USSR - regardless of cost - his aim since the USSR crumbled. Putin has recruited the known-assassin Wagner Group & Syrian jihadis to fight Ukraine.
Putin expected Ukrainians to turn against Zelensky & back his restoring-USSR aim by fear & attacks - he failed. The Ukrainians are a strong people & many have returned to fight against the war criminal & his military.

@w0tn0t You don't really have much knowlage of Ukrainian politics, corruption, history, regime or western involvement, do you?

I also wonder where are these 4.3 million people. Because no one has seen them. Sure we see some black Ukrainians in UK and Ireland. But actual Ukrainians in numbers you said. Where are they? When less than a million of Syrians so called refugees came in 2015, you could see them everywhere. I know, they passed next to my house. But where are these 4.3 million people? Do you know what that would mean? My whole country is less people than that. When 100 000 people are on the move, everyone can see it and feel it. But 4.3 million even after 18-60 males were under martial law? Dude, you really need to stop buying news from the same people that sold you Jabs are safe and effective and 2 weeks to flatten the curve, and start using your own brain and look at alternative media. The stuff you are talking about is talking points of propaganda machine, by their own admission for crying out loud. Its not reality.

Also find me a picture that shows migration of 4.3 million people in a month. I can't even find a picture that shows more than 100 people or few hundred protestor. I've seen caravans of 5-10 K in Mexico that look pretty big. But 4.3 million people? Where are they? Where is the verifiable legit non western backed source that supports this claim?

Both Mariupol Frontlines Under Fire Special Report. Russia - Ukraine War

@Krunoslav

This is ONLY Poland - there are more refugees in Hungary, Slovakia & Czech Republic - as at 17 March

Ukrainian Refugees in Poland: Current Situation and What to Expect

The 2022 Russian invasion of Ukraine has forced millions to flee from the war zone. This brief addresses Ukrainian refuge in Poland. It provides an overview of the current situation, discusses the ongoing solutions and potential future challenges, and stresses the key areas for urgent policy intervention. It is based on a presentation held at the FREE Network webinar Fleeing the war zone: Will open hearts be enough?, which took place on March 14, 2022. The full webinar can be seen here.

The latest data (from March 15, 2022) shows that since February 24, 1.8 million refugees have already crossed the Polish-Ukrainian border. This number represents over 60 percent of Ukrainians who have fled the country thus far. Among this group that relocated to Poland, approximately 97 percent were people with Ukrainian citizenship. Most of the foreign nationals living in Ukraine before the war, and who came to Poland after its outbreak, have already returned to their countries of origin

[freepolicybriefs.org].

@Krunoslav

Here is a chart of which countries have taken in Ukrainian refugees & the numbers
More than 4.3 million people have now fled Ukraine into neighbouring countries as a result of the Russian invasion.

[nationalworld.com]

@Krunoslav

@w0tn0t No, no. Show me something visual. A video or picture. I can't find more than a hundred people in any picture with Ukrainian refugees in the title. You can find more people in a picture during festivals and so called revolution, than you can these 4.3 mil. That is huge numbers. People record freaking UFO's with smartphones, why is there no pictures of video of millions of people?

@Krunoslav

They didn't all flee on one day - and its been more than a month

@w0tn0t 4.3 million people, in a month. Where are they hiding. Do you know what is 4 mil of people? There are caravans of thousands coming over in America for a year and there are still more pictures of them. So where are 4 mil in a month? Fake news.

@Krunoslav

Where did I say in ONE MONTH? Its since Feb 2022

@w0tn0t So Poland should house over 2 mil of Ukrainians. Hmm. No pictures. Oh wait I found one. From last year. of Middle Eastern migrants.

@w0tn0t Here we have two pictures from same website. Check the stories and dates. See anything odd?

@w0tn0t Ukraine marks birthday of Nazi collaborator Stepan Bandera (PHOTOS) 2019

You would think that recording million of people waiting somewhere or traveling would be seen everywhere. And yet, they are invisible. Only appearing in western Charts. Hmm. But there are black Ukrainians showing up in Western Europe. Hmm. How does that work?

Dude, stop spreading fake news or back it up.

@w0tn0t Take it six months if you like. 4 + mil people? Where are they? Other than in your fake charts. You can use statistics to prove anything, except the truth. If you use statistics skillful you can disprove gravity. But truth remains elusive as ever.

@Krunoslav

Breaking news - They didn't all leave on ONE DAY! Its been over the weeks - check the chart with dates.

And since when is Aljazeera western media?

At least 50 people, including five children, have been killed and nearly 100 wounded in a rocket attack on a railway station in Kramatorsk in eastern Ukraine, according to Ukrainian officials.

In an online post updating an earlier preliminary death toll of 39 on Friday, Donetsk Governor Pavlo Kyrylenko said the 50 dead included victims who died of their wounds after being taken to hospitals.

[aljazeera.com]

@w0tn0t I already posted for this. Read more into it.

Moon of Alabama
@MoonofA

Those are remains of the booster section of a Tochka-U.
Unlike Ukraine Russia is no longer using this type of missiles.

[moonofalabama.org]

@Krunoslav

You can call it fake news as it doesn't play to your pro-Putin narrative

@w0tn0t Pro Putin. Dude, where the hell do you think they will stick those millions of people? And who is going to pay for it? I don't need to be pro Putin, its enough to be pro my own interests. 4 mil people figure is like bigfoot. Somehow everyone has seen it , and the first thing they do is grab the crappiest camera they can find to take the most blurry picture they can find.

a) we have footage of missiles flying, drones taking pictures of everyone, facial recognition technology in Ukraine and somehow can't find a picture of video of all these people. Not on the move, not at the border waiting to be processed, not in any warehouse or anywhere.

b) that many people you can record from satellite.

c) and also I don't see Metallica playing anywhere. So how could there be 4 mil people. Its silly.

@dd54 covid cases and deaths. Need I say more.

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It's a good bet Sputnik or Russia Today will claim the Ukies carried out a false flag attack.

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