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Stalin had the Soviet grain harvests loaded onto ships for hard currency while his own people starved.

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That is a good example, but not as good as 'collective farms', where people growing and producing food starve to death. I'm sure California is working on a plan to emulate that too.

Tom81 Level 8 Sep 24, 2022

California is/was the 5th or 6th largest economy in the world (although heavily subsidized by the federal government) although...

it is a heavy food exporter to lots of nations, it has the highest food insecure homes in the USA

it also claims to be the near sole producer of quite a number of crops, but I find it hard to believe on some of them, such as peaches, plums, walnuts, sweet rice. Some others maybe, like almonds, olives, figs, kiwis, raisins & a few others.

They use to be a large oil exporter and alternate energy developer too. I seem to recall a year or so ago, they had sold hit 1 million EVs sold in state. So that could explain their power consumption even though they have lost and have had hundreds of thousand if not over a million people move out of state due to high cost of living and taxes and excessive regulation standards.

I think you are right, that they are working on a emulation plan of Venezuela or some other failed cognitive dissonant version of socialism.

@Weltansicht yeah, I imagine the state will decay, crumble and implode like every communist state/country did under Soviet times. And probably by design. If you let the place fall apart and become semi abandoned, rich folks can buy it out cheap (and turf out the non-elites), turn suburbs into semi autonomous farms and turn the place into some luxury oasis like in Elysium.

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