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So about the border concentration camps, just wanted everyone quick opinion on them. It's a pretty straightforward poll.

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criminey359 7 June 26
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Border concentration camps? Concentration camps? According to Google's Dictionary: "con·cen·tra·tion camp
/ˌkänsənˈtrāSHən ˈˌkamp/
noun
a place where large numbers of people, especially political prisoners or members of persecuted minorities, are deliberately imprisoned in a relatively small area with inadequate facilities, sometimes to provide forced labor or to await mass execution. The term is most strongly associated with the several hundred camps established by the Nazis in Germany and occupied Europe in 1933–45, among the most infamous being Dachau, Belsen, and Auschwitz."

For the record, I'm against abuse and rape of minors. But your poll is presented with a misleading sentence that declares the one question poll as "pretty straightforward." Ha. Classic Doublespeak.

About those detention centers at our border, it would be great if they got funded so that the crowded conditions could be alleviated and the illegal immigrants being detained while processed for asylum or deportation could be made comfortable, but that doesn't help your premise.

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That’s the way CNN does it. Poll the college towns and report it as “Americans”.
NPR is the real master. They will interview two people.
They ask leading questions, designed to elicit a predetermined response. The question will allow the leftist to sound informed and the conservative comes off sounding like a buffoon.
That’s not a poll, it’s propaganda and it is the source of our divisions. Obama showed us how to do it.

David42 Level 7 June 27, 2019
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Why build our wall ?
to slow the flow of drugs, guns, violence, corruption, and disease, gang members, sex slaves,murderers, rapists, pedophiles and illegal aliens ?

David42 Level 7 June 27, 2019
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Here's one:
A) I'm a leftist fruitcake.
B) I'm utterly clueless.
C) All of the above.
Pretty straightforward.

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Actually, you unintentionally showed what is wrong with polling and science in the 21st century. You created a biased instrument hopelessly contaminated from the start. Zero hope of producing anything of any value. It's a political point, and marginalizing--probably bigoted. I know your intention had nothing to do with science, but scientists today pollute their work with this same thing without acknowledging the fact--probably because they don't realize they've moved into political activism and stopped being scientists.

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chuckpo Level 8 June 27, 2019
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I was unaware we were rounding up our citizens, like the Nazis, or the democrats, confiscating their wealth, while preparing them for extermination.
I’m completely against the rape of minors.
Which is also why I’m against a policy of encouraging third world citizens to use, and allow to be used, their own children as political pawns for a free ride ticket as slave labor in a country they refuse to legally join.
I’m also against our own politicians who use these people as a problem no longer valuable as a campaign issue were it solved.
Ever wonder why we never achieved hope and change?
Because you can’t continue to sell it when you reach it.

Got a poll for that?

Since when does a concentration camp need to just be about the citizens of a specific country?

Democrats are 100% responsible for the camps and the number of people in them. If they really cared--instead of this feigned moral outrage superficial bullshit--they'd help fix the entire immigration problem so that people wouldn't be encouraged to break the law. Build the wall. Enforce the laws.

SO, DEMOCRATS, are you for the rape and abuse of minors for the purposes of your politics, or will you support a wall and law enforcement so that the rape and abuse of minors will stop? I already know the answer to the question. You COULD stop these abuses by supporting the wall and enforcing laws. SIMPLE. That's literally NOT what you want to do. This pretense is all fake.

@criminey359
Since the conception of the word when dictators corralled their citizens for extermination.
We don’t get to pretend it is something it is not for political moral posturing.

@, @HighQ
No different than pretending it is so you can sit on your perch and crow about your moral superiority, as you protest sending them beds.

@HighQ
No. They aren’t.
And no mater how hard you try, it won’t stick. The talking point has already been destroyed, and yes, the left protested beds.
[cnn.com]

@HighQ Yes, that is the “left”
As for “rights” to be heard, I didn’t in any way suggest they can’t protest. Red herring.
Amusing how offended by children in cages you are.
So offended you defend not sending them beds, refuse humanitarian aid, and put up pictures of drowned kids to shame the right into allowing them to be human smuggled, raped, and killed in the name of humanity.

@HighQ
You can’t even understand why drug cartels and human traffickers wouldn’t want to be making money by trafficking children to gain access where it otherwise would have been denied can you?
Virtue signaling in such a peacockish manner telling me what I do or do not think based on your social justice warrior lensed glasses is embarrassing.
You can’t shame me for other people’s bad choices.
Here’s a thought, don’t bring your kids in a 2k journey through Mexico (completely bypassing them) to nation shop a standard of living.
That’s not in the “sanctuary” list.
There are 5 billion people in the planet who have a lower standard of living than our neighbors in Mexico. Staying in Mexico would be an improvement on their living standards. Stay in Mexico. What? That would overwealm Mexico? Go figure.
I’m not a world citizen. I’ve lived in most of the rest of the “world”. Most of it sucks. I don’t want that. I want what I have and built.
Go join the global citizenry. Start in Honduras.

@HighQ
Yes. Like the Bank of America post you just posted.
Virtue signaling.
This, right here, is a concentration camp.
Learn. You know, words and junk.

@HighQ
And here is an image of children in a concentration camp.

@HighQ I despise “virtue signaling”, where you have to pretend that detention centers for illegal border crossers are tantamount to Nazi death camps.

@Cheetolini, @HighQ No, no, HighQ has the right of it. Just because it's not a death camp doesn't mean its not a concentration camp. The internment camps that the Americans tossed Japanese immigrants into could rightly be called a concentration camp. You don't have to murder the people in a concentration camp.

@criminey359
It’s not about what it could be called.
It is what it has historically been used for and the Nazi connotation that goes with it. It is being specifically used to insinuate Nazi death camps as a comparison.
No matter how much you defend it, you know this to be true.

Making love is used as an expression of a union between lovers.
It COULD mean screwing a sheep.

@criminey359
It COULD be called a summer camp. Because it’s a camp, and it’s summer.

@Cheetolini I wanted to include the russian gulags, and the concentration camps the chinese have going for the Uyghurs. It's not just the nazis who use concentration camps, they just had the most inhumane version.

Also, those camps have been around longer then one season. It's not a summer camp if you open the thing up in January and it just happens to be open through August.

@criminey359
It’s not a concentration camp if you can keep from being placed in one by simply walking in the other direction.
The gulags rounded citizens up. The Democrats rounded citizens up. The Chinese re-education camps rounded citizens up. The Nazis rounded up citizens.
We aren’t rounding anyone up. We are catching foreign citizens breaking our laws.
Big difference.

By your standards, DUI offenders are placed in “concentration camps” because there’s a concentration of them.

Furthermore, they come here KNOWING this will happen.
No one volunteers to be placed in a concentration camp.
The migrants volunteer knowingly, to be placed in detention centers.

@Cheetolini The term is asylum seekers and they are being denied their rights. They aren't breaking laws to come here and ask for asylum. Besides, the other direction is death.

@criminey359
The term is migrant workers. They are coming here for jobs. They even say so. They have found a loophole that says if they bring any children, and ILLEGALLY cross the border (a crime they are committing), we will catch them and hold them in detention for a limited time, at which they promise to return for a hearing, and never do, instead choosing to disappear into the population, purchase fake identities, and file for assistance. Felony’s for us regular citizens.
98% don’t return for their “Asylum” hearing. So, I call bullshit on your bullshit. Out of the 2% that do show up, 90% are proven to be false claims.

“I need a job” is not a valid claim for asylum.
No “rights” are being violated.
In fact, they are abusing our law to force us to allow them to further commit felony identity crimes.

Triple bullshit.

@Cheetolini Of course "I need a job" isn't a case for asylum. "The local gang is planning to murder me, and make my sister into a sex slave" could work. "The cops are hunting down my family one by one because my uncle wouldn't bribe one of them" is valid. "I publicly said el presidente is a corrupt bastard and it was either go north or get acquainted with one of his death squads" sounds good on the surface, but I'm sure there could be some problem that would make this one not count for asylum.

@criminey359
We’re that the truth, asylum could be investigated.
But you and I know the vast majority fall into none of those categories. Otherwise more than 2% would show up for their hearing.

@criminey359
You have already made it clear you are for open borders. There is no more need to pretend they need an excuse.

@Cheetolini Fair enough, I want people with the will to cross a fucking desert to make to a place where they might be able to give their family some safety and security and build something with their lives. Tell me, would you cross a desert to escape a place where your life is worth less than the bullets in the local gang's guns?

@criminey359
Sure I would.
Then I’d present myself at the border and REQUEST I be allowed to become a citizen.
I wouldn’t fucking shit on the laws of the country I was trying to get into, sneak across the border, , steal someone’s identification, agree to be a slave laborer, the. Kick and scream about my babies when I got caught.

@Cheetolini Why should you become a citizen of some random country you just wandered into? Why aren't you happy just to be a resident of a country whose police don't shoot you because you don't have a large enough bribe this week? Besides, it's Russians and Chinese that steal ID.

@criminey359
I don’t even need to reply to that.

@Cheetolini Well of course not, who in their right mind would defend the fucking Russians. Better dead then red.

@criminey359
Put down the bong. You are just rambling now.

@Cheetolini Are you actually going to defense those fucking communists? This was all well and good when we were talking about how our current administration has created concentration camps at the border to punish people trying to enter the country, but that is too far.

BETTER DEAD THAN RED! Go back to Russia and pray that Putin treats you better than our president treats immigrants.

@criminey359
It’s hilarious listening to an Antifa supporter talking shit about Russia.
Antifa was Stalin's propaganda force. They weren’t fighting the Nazis to save the Jews. They were fighting the Nazis so they could have their own genocidal dictator run Germany.
Unlike you, who plays fortnight 12 hours a day, I defended against the Russians (Soviets) at the Fulda Gap.
I have the 214 to prove it.
Bite me asshat.

@Cheetolini Sorry, I was still learning to read when the Berlin Wall fell. Besides, antifa isn't a big organized group, it's anyone who doesn't like fascism. So, it's everyone to the left of Trump. But I'm willing to extend an oil branch. Putin or Jinping? Which do you want dead more? I also accept the entire Saudi family as a viable option.

@criminey359
WoW.
‘We aren’t the same violent communist Antifa who called everything they didn’t like fascism so they could terrorize citizens into accepting Stalin, a brutal genocidal dictator who killed 7,000,000 Ukrainians while putting 2.5 million more in concentration camps (yea, real ones) as the leader of Germany.
I’ll throw out an olive branch, who do you want to kill first’

Do words just flow out of your face?

I should be quiet. You want to destroy other communists soooo.... win win
Put you and all other communists in a room with all the white supremacists (the real ones, not the old white guys in a car from another state that “look” like fascists)
Let you all kill each other. Whoever comes out alive, put them in prison for murdering the others.

Here’s a thought. Take a sabbatical. Live in a communist country for 3 years. I dare you.
Then come back and talk shit about things you have some experience in.

@Cheetolini I would offer up Stalin, but he is already dead. Besides, I think I covered that I believe communists make great cannon fodder against fascists.

Wait, China, or Norway? Cause I can't afford the ticket to either, and if I go to China I have about 15-20 minutes before I'm swarmed by secret police after opening my mouth. They don't like comparing Jinping to Winnie the Pooh for some reason.

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It’s not a concentration camp if you can avoid it by simply walking in the other direction.

That’s not a poll. But nice try.

The other direction are cities with the highest murder rate outside of active war zones.

@criminey359, maybe we should put a ton more pressure on Mexico, if they're such a shitty, corrupt, inhumane country. Harsh economic sanctions until they become a lawful country.

@criminey359 here's a thought, instead of trying to come here and take over our country why don't they get off their lazy butts and fix their own country. You are not talking about hundreds coming here you are talking about thousands of young men of fighting age. Here's the real truth it's easier to come here and live on the backs of the Americans who sacrificed everything for this country. You worry about the terminology concentration camp?? Where are the gas chambers?? How many heads did we shave off for the hair?? Whose clothing did we strip off for our military?? You need to educate yourself, your stupid is showing...

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