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So remind me: what is Trump’s impeachable offense again? Aside from winning an election the left tried to make him to lose?

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Edgework 8 Oct 2
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I watched Glenn Beck's Blackboard take on the Ukraine Democrat issue. It was complicated but good. You can find it here:

It answers your question precisely.
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if you believe that the democrats or the republicans are right. You are naïve.
Our government is completely corrupt and we need to find a better class of representatives and a less divisive way to elect them.
Gun control is just that CONTROL.
I’m assuming you are intelligent or so wouldn’t be speaking to you at all.
We are in a fight for the survival freedom.

How kind of you.

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Destabilizing the entrenched corruption that is endemic in the Federal Country Club of Mutual Aggrandizement by exposing all Americans to Red Pill truth. But because even conservative Republican Americans are so leveraged with their assets of comfort there's a good chance those cowards may side with the Democrats. As for the Democrats they are two parties fused into one. Corrupt curmudgeons and vacuous children. The way their party is constituted right now we would be invaded and compromised within four years and the Constitution would be shredded. The Republicans, other than Trump and we Patriots, are too lazy to really want the power and duty to serve if it discomforts them.
Here's how I relate them:
Republicans are on opioids. Lazy and falsely euphoric.
Democrats are on amphetamines. Tireless and manic.
Neither has the judgement to govern the nation like Trump, the Founding Fathers, Lincoln, or JFK. Nobody is America wants to sweat and bleed their way to survival. In fact, I'd say most on the left actually know that Democrats will drive this thing straight into the ground but their unadmittedly and simultaneously both curious and sadistic. The Republicans are too libertarian to want to fight for a cohesive system and work out the rigors that it will take to be accountable, so their path of least resistance is masochism.
Will Trump be impeached by the House? Yes.
Will Trump be convicted by the Senate? No.
In the run-up to 2020 Trump will mitigate the impeachment issue by invoking Bill being impeached and that the government can still maintain operations and if he's gone much of the economic successes of the last 3 years will evaporate. He will pound hard on the corruption issue, unafraid of being labeled corrupt himself though he knows he's not.
The polls will make no difference before the election. Any undecided voter in the anonymity of the voting both will at the last minute vote for predictability. They will vote for Trump's New Yorker's brusque way of talking and the economic security and the yapping efemenant Democrats attacking him. They will vote against the things they try to cobble together as being the Democrat platform (incohesive as it is): green new deal, unlimited illegal aliens, more dead babies, Warren's cranky grandmother voice, and Biden's "three seconds away from a stroke" appearance and performance. Harris has no shot because there's no way America will want their first female president having the "slut" reputation. Hillary will just remind everyone of 50 shades a negative for every 1 shade of positive she brings.
In 2024 America's first female President will be Sidney Powell. Younger Trump family members will rise via various posts and positions and be strong candidates in future elections. The Republicans have far more competent young risers like Gaetz, Nunes, Ratcliffe, Jordan, and Meadows. The Democrats have only young "disruptors." No truly competent and mature members except Gabbard.
If I am somehow wrong about this and some Democrat manages a slim victory, then in a mere matter of weeks the Democrats will overreach on social issues (anything related to abortion and to the colored hair types and their grievances) and a guaranteed war(s) will soon follow as we will be tested by the rest of the world which is entrenched in its conservative nationalist future. America will be FOR SALE in large swaths. The investors will tank the stock markets and continue flocking to Gold, but not for the current reasons. China will go on a binge of usurpation in their region. Iran will reconstitute terror groups under multiple names. Israel will preemptively take any action it wants. And Trump will liquidate enough assets to pay lawyers long enough to keep the vengeful Democrats DOJ from coming for him...and he will STILL be the most followed and listened to person in the world, even if Twitter bans him. Someone will give him a platform and he'll be the single most distracting entity this theoretical D-potus will have to deal with because Trump sells eyes and ears. Remember that people are fixated on hatred and he has no shortage of maniacal haters on amphetamines out there.

Dan Evans, 10-2-19

@MaskedRiderChris
It is very noticeable how aggressively Trump is now going after the deep state and the Dems by using label language to pin on them. Very telling that Pelosi is quoted saying she "prays for his safety" when she's known to have ties, unambiguous, to Mexican gangsters and MS-13. She tipped her hand that she's got nothing except an ass licking media cleaning her rim.

Well said sir.
I like the cut of your jib.
You are as they say
Woke

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His offense is that he will win the next election.

Raphio Level 6 Oct 2, 2019

I think you hit the nail on the head with that one.

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using the FBI to spy on opposition's presidential campaign, leaking confidential information to the press, lying under oath, improper storage of secret federal documents, targeting political opponents with Federal agency, and on and on

I was asking about Trump’s impeachable offenses, not Obama’s

@Edgework - Well Trump has been under investigation for 3 years and the press hates him. Yet, not one real issue has materialized against him.

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Here's what I would include:
8 felony campaign finance violations including Giuliani's role with Ukraine.
Soliciting foreign election interference from Ukraine.
Potential quid pro quo with Ukraine aid.
Emoluments.
Obstruction of justice during the Mueller probe.
Demagoguery.
Immigration policy of family separation.
Politicizing the Department of Justice.
Abuse of pardon power.
Electioneering by his campaign, donors, and Cambridge Analytica in 2016.
Potential foreign collusion in 2016.
Criminality of his 2016 campaign (e.g. Manafort, Flynn, and Cohen).
Potential fraud, money laundering, threats of violence, bribery, and ties to organized crime during his business career.

That’s what I figured.

As far as the 8 campaign finance violations, is that to be based on actions as president for covering them up? Or do are they the pre-presidential actions? I don't think it matters, since the constitution just says they may be removed for certain actions, it doesn't say whether it has to occur during a term. It may be an interesting side issue during the trial, though. I can think of several legal arguments on both sides and it would be fun to see them play out. I kinda am thinking Pence would be a good president to watch. Still not convinced of Trump's guilt, but if the dems wanna roll the dice, it's a win - win for Republicans.

@JimbobNE Both. May be more than 8. These are the ones before Ukraine. [citizensforethics.org]

oh and Trump is a Unicorn denier too...don't forget that. LOL!!!

In other words. You've got dick. Take a hike

@DAN_STL What part of felony don't you understand?

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