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If you have ever watched the movie Independence Day there is a scene that came to my mind today as I saw comments on my post questioning this latest effort to expand our never ending war.

Randy Quaid plays a former combat pilot during Vietnam that is now a raging alcoholic. It is suggested he became a boozer after he claims to have been abducted, and probed by aliens. They really push how everyone thinks he is a crackpot for telling this story. Towars the end when everyone is gathered on the secret base in the desert where they have had an alien space craft, and corpse for decades they have neutralized the alien defenses and are asking for experienced pilots to fly against the alien fighter crafts. Randy volunteers and then swears he will not let them down because years ago he was abducted and probed by aliens and he is ready for some pay back.

When he says this about abduction the guy calling for volunteers, and those around Quaid look at him like he is crazy. Even with all the recent events, and the need for pilots they think the guy talking about being abducted is crazy. Their lack of belief, and prejudices about alien abduction was so deeply ingrained into their minds that even with that evidence before them they think Randy is crazy.

Standard bearing democrats, and republicans remind me of all those people that moved away from Quaid when he said he was an abductee. The beliefs, and prejudices ingrained into their minds by their party leaders is so deep if anyone questions their guy no matter any evidene before them, they think the person is crazy. Republicans today are much like modern socialist. No matter how much evidence there is against the success of socialism todays socialist just know they have it right. No matter how much evidence shows the corruption of the GOP republicans today just know Trump is the one who will not do anything underhanded as is the SOP of republican politicians. It only took republicans 8 years to forget all about Senior Bush's "read my lips" moment to suddenly think his son was going to be the best president we have ever had, he would never lie. THe only real difference btween the two parties, democrats are a bit more honest about how much they want to steal from us. Anyone questioning their guy is immediately gets attacked and their character is demonized by the more assholery of the groups. If I did all the drugs I have been accused of taking for not blindly accepting the official story I would have been dead long ago, or there would be proof of alien life on Earth. I think the funniest one was years back on myspace, this die hard republican dink accused me of drug abuse while he himself proudly admitted to his massive alcohol abuse, and had made a damned fool of himself often when blogging while drunk out of his gord.

I tend to piss of republicans questioning their guys. On the bright side I also piss off democrats, probably even more, for the same thing. When getting after the socialist I do tend to get rather personal in some of my commentary about them as a whole.

KCSantiago 8 Jan 4
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I'm sure you think I'm one of those guys @KCSantiago. But I was very against Trump during the primaries. I liked the ones that showed more moral character (Carson, Huckabee, and even Cruz). But we ended up with a choice of Hillary or Trump - not a difficult choice. I knew about lots of what I considered bad in Trump's past. But I also knew some positives and accomplishments of his. Then there's the platform/issues he ran on. But could we believe him? I started hearing from others I respected who actually knew him personally and they endorsed him as the real deal. Things he said made sense and he was against political correctness.

The biggest thing that made me a Trump supporter is that he was the anti-Hillary and the Democrats hated him so much. I saw only evil coming from them and absolutely NOTHING good. That's not just bias speaking. I just cannot see one single democrat party policy that is actually good for America. And every time they say something, they make fools out of those who believe them. I've come to believe it's just safest to assume they're lying about everything they say (except something like when Beto says he's gonna take away our firearms).

It was clear Trump wasn't a politician and that he had nothing to gain and everything to lose. Some might say he was just on a power trip. Really? Would it be worth the hassles and headaches for a successful billionaire? Has he become richer since taking office? No, just the opposite and he gives his entire POTUS salary away. Has he accomplished any of his promises? Yes, many. Has he brought back pride and patriotism after the 8 years of Obama? I guess your answer would depend upon if you like Obama or not. The list of positives is huge. The negatives so far are petty.

It isn't about not questioning the man or thinking he can do no wrong. But once the man is in office, it is detrimental to question his actions and motives based on the input from the left - the Democrats and their media cohorts. And who are we to think we're so smart as to know more than he does when he has an army of brilliant people he's gathered around him to inform and advise him and we don't. And what is his track record since he's been in office (and even before). And he's still not a "politician". He hasn't let DC change him.

Frankly, if it makes the Democrats mad, I believe he's doing the right thing. I'll get concerned when the Democrats start agreeing and cooperating and acting pleased with him and his decisions.

Now, I realize a Democrat and some Libertarians would look at it pretty much the opposite. I know I hated everything Obama did and believe it only hurt our country and its citizens. But I didn't demonstrate, riot, scream, and cry like them.

Finally, take a look at his support level. Is it dying or is it growing? It's obvious people are leaving the left and jumping on the Trump train in droves. His rallies are only growing. All minorities groups are showing significant shifts away from the Democrats because of what Trump is doing. Well, it's also because of how totally idiotic the left's politicians and media are - constantly shooting themselves every time they open their mouths. So Trump will be around another 4 years. That won't mean perfection - unless you consider and compare it to what you'd have if one of the Democrats were to win. In buying a house, you know you've done well if you can get 80% of what you were looking for. You're never gonna be 100% satisfied.

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The existence of the coordinating military industrial complex supported by the skimmers of foreign aid from foreign entanglements in both parties has to give us pause. Unfortunately only the passing of time (and unknown how much) will help us see clearly.

RCGibb Level 7 Jan 4, 2020
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There has been a lot of lying done by both parties, and a lot of collusion in those lies by both parties. Unfortunately the truth is slow in coming out and the media is another one that isn't trustworthy in that regard. Makes it difficult but no less the job of a participatory citizenry to try to figure it out. At least communication without screaming and exchanging ideas can help in that regard.

RCGibb Level 7 Jan 4, 2020
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It sounds like you have the correct attitude: question every side and above all do not trust any politician just because of his political affiliation! Independence Day is a great movie! I love Randy Quaid’s final scene: "Hi guys, I’m baaack!"

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Excellent post.

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