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A Manifesto Against the Enemies of Modernity

[areomagazine.com]

shj648 6 Jan 23
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Love these guys -

Totally on board with bashing post modernism so I skipped over those sections.

I found it a bit tone deaf regarding morality and its need to bash a "premodernist" straw man.

"It is the Enlightenment Narrative that creates this worship of reason, not reason itself. In fact, most of the scientific arguments against the existence of God are circular and self-proving. They pit advanced scientific thinkers against simple, literalist religious believers. They dismiss error and mischief committed in the name of science—the Holocaust, atom bombs, climate change—but amberize error and mischief committed in the name of faith—“the Crusades, the Inquisition, witch hunts, the European wars of religion,” as Pinker has it.

By assuming that the spiritual realm is a fantasy, they irrationally dismiss our experience of it. Our brains perceive the smell of coffee, yet no one argues that coffee isn’t real. But when the same brain perceives the immaterial—morality, the self, or God—it is presumed to be spinning fantasies. Coming from those who worship reason, this is lousy reasoning." [city-journal.org]

Marquis de Sade - morality without god -
"Here at last, however, was an atheist whose outlook made complete logical sense to me from beginning to end. If there is no God, there is no morality. If there is no morality the search for pleasure and the avoidance of pain are all in all and we should pillage, rape, and murder as we please. None of this pale, milquetoast atheism that says “Let’s all do what’s good for society.” What is society to me? None of this elaborate game-theory nonsense where we all benefit from mutual sacrifice and restraint. That only works when no one is looking; then I’ll get away with what I can. If there is no God, there is no good, and sadistic pornography is scripture." - Great Good Thing, Klavan

And some excerpts that I took from the article -
"...a right-hand path upon which conservative stalwarts position themselves as the last desperate defenders of the heart of the project of Modernity, the so-called “values of Western Civilization,” defending it from the potential failures of progressive social and economic experimentation."

"...absolute intolerance of thinking differently — duly papered over with claims to appreciate the right kinds of (limited) diversity."

Modern - "A profound respect for the power of reason and the utility and strength of science;"

"including individual liberty, which in large, complex societies requires being secured by effective, elite-run institutions."

"Biblical creationism versus evolution, for example, still rages as a pretend debate even now, more than a century after it was laid to rest by firm scientific consensus." agree except with scientific consensus.

"Gender equality and sexual liberation, in particular, are believed in the socially conservative premodern worldview to have encouraged a selfish (and often “immoral&rdquo😉 individualism in relation to sexual behavior and gender roles, which has led to an alleged destruction of the family and, in many ill-informed views, economic and social chaos." - I believe this could be translated into a "modern" view by considering the loss of happiness by those who have engaged in these ideas.

"In terms of truth and knowledge, all anti-modernists are united in their suspicion of science, reason, liberty, and expertise" - suspicion, aka skepticism, is a modern requirement for all.

"Both groups can point to episodes within Modern history in which projects framed in terms of science and reason and a duty to share the benefits of Western civilization with less Enlightened people have done great harm," - the French Revolution must be (and isn't) defended by this viewpoint.

"The consensus is that democracy, liberty, human rights, science, and reason are fundamentally sound. They are, after all, how we know we got things wrong." - democracy killed Socrates. Liberty without virtue is short lived. Human rights from where? Science and Reason get us Marquis de Sade.

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I think the authors have developed a great comprehension of the (post)modern left but have failed to as closely examine the "work" being done on the (new) right. The fact is many on the right are postmodernists. Many have studied the same philosophies as the left, identified the same problems with modernity as the postmodernist left, and having also studied science, also understand the complexity of the modern age AND the human condition.

The right isn't all filled up with premodern feudal traditionalists. Much of their case for tradition is based on the fact that they think no two individuals OR populations are equivalent; the only notion about "Enlightenment" they reject is its evolution toward complete atomization, individualization, and its modern assumption that equal humanity can overcome the un-equality among individuals themselves. They tend to think that pitiably few of us can develop a functional set of productive values from reason and science, but instead need cultural institutions to mold into our personalities a meaningful manner of being.

The right is doing its work in and from philosophy, psychology, sociology, genetics, neurology, anthropology, and many other arts and science. A big problem is that science leads to sometimes dark conclusions, and when it does, the modern enlightened classical liberal tends to discredit the scientist rather than do the work required to overturn the results of their work. The modern enlightened classical liberal has his own ideological blind spot; he's come to worship his own narrative. He fails to recognize that many of his own deeply held beliefs are the product of his own inculturation.

govols Level 8 Jan 23, 2020
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This is published by the same authors who did the "Grievance studies affair".

shj648 Level 6 Jan 23, 2020

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