There are different kinds of feminism. Some of them are very clearly pretty good things. Your comment says basically nothing of worth.

You know why all those jokes about how horrible comedian's wives were used to happen? That's because people didn't get divorced. With the possible exception of if you have kids...I don't know why more divorce isn't a good thing. Again, it's just embracing more of what people want.

Now, the reason many women used to not get divorced as often was DEFINITELY a bad thing. It was because they didn't have jobs so they were forced to stay with their husbands, regardless of whether they were abusive or whatever.

Also...I have no idea what your first sentence means.

I did not know it is bigoted to be against commuist???

There are physiological and psychological difference between men and women. It's hard to know how to appropriately deal with the differences between men and women. Some people advocate extensive cultural changes to improve our culture. They call their strategy "feminism" oftentimes.

I've never herd of a Nazi who wanted what was best for the Jews. I've never met a feminist who rooted his or her views in a hatred of men. Even the most radical third wave feminists often have some kind of semi-coherent arguments behind their views. About the only thing close to a rational argument Nazis have ever had has been, maybe, opposition to Zionism...but they never distinguish that from hatred of Jews in general.

The difference between feminists and Nazis is the difference between people spewing blind hatred and people with strategies for societal improvement, that may be wrong, but are nonetheless almost always some kind of genuine strategy for improvement...and far less often rooted in hatred.

Now...groups that I do often see rooting their arguments in hatred of women in general, however, are the MGTOW's and the incels...and both groups contain lots of very immature, entitled anti-feminists who believe they're owed more from society than they're actually owed.

I see far more rabid, incoherent, opposition to feminism in general than rabid, incoherent, comments from feminists.

My favorite Youtube channels are TJ Kirk's channels and Shoe on Head. Both of them have been pretty heavily anti-feminist, and they're both brilliant, but I see their audiences, and I talk to actual feminists on discussion forums...and it usually looks like the feminists are making polite, quiet little arguments, and it usually looks like the anti-feminists are constantly screaming about how the feminists are going to make men live in caves underground where they're harvested for meat and occasional breeding purposes.

Yeah...the wage gap appears to be mostly B.S., despite that our politicians keep saying it's not. That's a good point the anti-feminists keep repeating.

They also, however, keep arguing things like the points in this thread...making me feel considerably less sorry for them.

@MrShittles

I get it, comparing Feminists to Nazis dangerous. It exaggerates and distorts the defects of feminist theory and creates a false equivalency that minimizes the crimes of the Nazis.

What I'm trying to point out is that people have mistakenly attributed Nazism to the Yang. Hitler was a Yin figure and the Nazis and German society carried out his desires in there typical Yang fashion. The worst possible combination.

In another thread I argued that violence can be psychological. I offered Ben Shapiro as an example of someone that can with nothing more than words psychologically destroy his opposition. As evidence that this is analogous to physical violence both Ben Shapiro and Jordan Peterson have stated that since they were small in school their weapon against larger students was wit. Because we are a dimorphic species females are predisposed to use similar weapons.

The fact that third wave feminists has semi-coherent arguments and the Nazis spewed "pure hate" doesn't change the fact that they both want to use the power of the state to irrationally suppress some imaginary enemy.

Marrying the state is the ultimate expression of hypergamy. From an evolutionary perspective it is a extension of intersexual conflict in a dimorphic species. Keep in mind that intersexual conflict is often cryptic, taking place at a biological level inaccessible to the conscious mind. The most convincing lie is the one the liar believes.

The problem with feminists is they are ignorant of their own motivations because they reject biological reality. If evolution stopped at the neck they may have developed a more rational argument.

@wolfhnd You want to use the power of the state to irrationally suppress some imaginary enemy. You are dong that same thing...the people of the state...and you want to use the power of their numbers. You are intentionally misleading them through irrational emotional appeals, to gain their power, to defeat your imaginary enemies.

The imaginary dragons you want to say, dragon slayer, are not feminists. They're just beings in your imagination, no more real than actual dragons. If your enemies were real you'd have described real people.

@MrShittles

I don't know where you got the idea I wanted the government to do anything but secure a space for verbal combat.

Where we disagree is apparently over how leftist influenced movements like feminism come to resemble Nazi totalitarianism. Not by design but as a consequence of natural predispositions.

@wolfhnd I didn't say the government...I said the state...as in, the people in the state. You want to convince them to see things that are there - to fight your imaginary enemy.

For the most part, feminism does not involve government interference. It's mostly about changing culture.

@MrShittles

Where did I say I had enemies imaginary or otherwise?

BTW Oxford defines state as

"A country considered as an organized political community controlled by one government."

Funny, in reality world peace as in no WWIII did come about by building bigger bombs.

Feminism only accomplished one real thing for women. Wage Slavery...which ironically the left railed about in the 60's/70's???? and were against wage slavery...why not now????

@johnlondon What about this stuff?

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@johnlondon Regardless of what you think about feminism...every single person who looks at this should first and foremost be thinking of how completely absurd it is to compare feminism to Nazism. The fact that you have not appeared to have done that yet is baffling to me.