Excellent assessment.

You are incorrect. ANTIFA is not an organization, and it has no coordinated networks or official membership. ANTIFA is a movement / ideology, literally meaning "anti-fascist". If you are not "antifa" then you are literally for fascism. Now there are definitely people who label themselves ANTIFA and are bullies, rioters, looters, violent, etc. But again, there is no organization or collective.

As far as BLM goes, yes there is an official organization, which has some positives and some negatives. But most people protesting are not affiliated with the organization, they are part of the movement aspect of BLM, which in this case is also just an ideology / movement that people identify with. As with ANTIFA, again there can be bad actors within the movement, but the movement itself has no coordinated network.

So no, there is not a coordinated effort among individuals identifying with the social justice du jour to destroy the US.

But, if you are going to label them that way, why are you applying different rules to the "white racist nuts"? There are the Proud Boys, the Boogaloo Bois, and the LOS, to name a few. These are actual organizations with members and coordinated networks, one which often set up planned protests and intimidation through sites like Facebook.

This is no different than labeling any Muslim crime as "radical Islamic terrorism" but any white nationalist crime as "a lone wolf / mental health issue". You cannot claim any problems caused by left-wing identifiers are some sort of coordinated attack, yet any problems caused by right-wing identifiers are long wolves with no connection.

Both have issues, and both can be tied to the rhetoric of key members of their political movements. To only single out one group is the height of hypocrisy.

howdy @JacksonNought,

Antifa is organized into cells so no single member can finger more than their own cell. So sure, they don't have a board of directors, 501 c3 fundraisers and annual picnics. Nevertheless, they do coordinate with other cells and their goal is destruction of the US.

@timon_phocas you are factually incorrect. This is a talking point raised by Trump and Barr to try and label any left-wing protester as "antifa" and to label them as a domestic terrorist to strip away their rights and deny them their First Amendment protected freedom to assemble and protest.

If you think someone protesting fascism is trying to destroy the US, then the only logical assumption is that you think the US is already fascist and should stay that way, or should become fascist.

@JacksonNought

Howdy again.

The Weather Underground was a diffuse terrorist movement organized in cells and dedicated to the revolutionary overthrow of the US. So is Antifa.

Being anti-fascist is the ideological equivalent of being Anti Komodo Dragon. Komodo Dragons are dangerous, but they only exist on a handful of islands in Indonesia and some zoos. Real fascists are almost as rare. The only Blackshirts wandering the streets and beating people senseless are antifa and BLM.

@timon_phocas once more you are factually incorrect and peddling conspiracy theories and false narratives. This back and forth is pointless, as you have your "alternative facts" and I have the truth.