MAGA mob including Klansman who posed with Kelly Loeffler surrounds GA capitol in pursuit of GA ...

1patriot comments on Jan 7, 2021:

must be your friends

WilyRickWiles replies on Jan 7, 2021:

Not a MAGA chud. Nor a supporter of Kelly Loeffler. Nor a Republican of any sort. Nor am I trying to "stop the steal."

Did you join the pro-Trump rally at the Capitol yesterday? If you decided not to, why not?

Naomi comments on Jan 7, 2021:

It's peculiar that while three Australians are honest enough to say that they would've attended the rally, I get no response from any Trump supporter in America (well, apart from one person in a different post). Why is that then? Any idea @WilyRickWiles, @Bastion, @N0DD? Do you think they're ...

WilyRickWiles replies on Jan 7, 2021:

I think they're waiting for a narrative to form that will allow them to support the coup attempt without openly associating themselves with the known Nazis who were involved. You can see some people already trying to pin some of the violence on supposed antifascist agitators. It is embarrassing because it justifies the "SJW" narratives that people around here are always railing against.

The communists at The Economist have some thoughts. /s

w0tn0t comments on Jan 7, 2021:

Utah Man With a History of Organizing Violent Antifa, BLM Protests, Was Inside the Capitol https://townhall.com/tipsheet/katiepavlich/2021/01/07/utah-man-with-a-history-of-organizing-blm-protests-was-inside-the-capitol-n2582766

WilyRickWiles replies on Jan 7, 2021:

See below (and more here https://forward.com/news/461612/a-guide-to-the-extremists-and-hate-groups-that-invaded-the-capitol/ )

The election's been certified.

WilyRickWiles comments on Jan 7, 2021:

You really showed them, ya boomers!

WilyRickWiles replies on Jan 7, 2021:

@FrankZeleniuk Good luck with that pipe dream of capitalism in one country, btw. It's never been tried.

The election's been certified.

WilyRickWiles comments on Jan 7, 2021:

You really showed them, ya boomers!

WilyRickWiles replies on Jan 7, 2021:

@FrankZeleniuk I'm a critic of capitalism/neoliberalism. You and everyone else here have conflated capitalism with every ideology under the sun that isn't white supremacist capitalism in one country. I'm actually one of the few people around here who actually knows what's going on.

The election's been certified.

WilyRickWiles comments on Jan 7, 2021:

You really showed them, ya boomers!

WilyRickWiles replies on Jan 7, 2021:

@FrankZeleniuk Blowback is a bitch!

Now what?

Edgework comments on Jan 6, 2021:

It was the Senate, actually. Do you really believe everything you hear on TV? After all this, do you believe anything you hear on TV? Your questions are useful to provoke discussion, but I’m dismayed by the way you reflexively accept the left’s framing of the topic, and their language. ...

WilyRickWiles replies on Jan 7, 2021:

@SpikeTalon 🙈 🙉 🙊

I guess it's not rioting when nativist white men do it because they alone are patriotic citizens who...

AdrianRainbow comments on Jan 7, 2021:

No, it wasn't, it was a mostly peaceful demonstration that was false flagged by Antifa.

WilyRickWiles replies on Jan 7, 2021:

@AdrianRainbow There's a reason there aren't many conservative comedians.

I guess it's not rioting when nativist white men do it because they alone are patriotic citizens who...

wolfhnd comments on Jan 7, 2021:

Have you ever made any contribution to society? Creating strawmen is not a contribution. Where we are at now was predictable in the 60s. What kind of children did we expect the narcissistic and ultimately nihilistic 60s generation to produce? The Jack Dorsey's and Mark Zuckerberg's are ...

WilyRickWiles replies on Jan 7, 2021:

@wolfhnd You're a friend of Matthew Heimbach.

I guess it's not rioting when nativist white men do it because they alone are patriotic citizens who...

wolfhnd comments on Jan 7, 2021:

Have you ever made any contribution to society? Creating strawmen is not a contribution. Where we are at now was predictable in the 60s. What kind of children did we expect the narcissistic and ultimately nihilistic 60s generation to produce? The Jack Dorsey's and Mark Zuckerberg's are ...

WilyRickWiles replies on Jan 7, 2021:

@wolfhnd And you're a Nazi apologist at best.

I guess it's not rioting when nativist white men do it because they alone are patriotic citizens who...

wolfhnd comments on Jan 7, 2021:

Have you ever made any contribution to society? Creating strawmen is not a contribution. Where we are at now was predictable in the 60s. What kind of children did we expect the narcissistic and ultimately nihilistic 60s generation to produce? The Jack Dorsey's and Mark Zuckerberg's are ...

WilyRickWiles replies on Jan 7, 2021:

@wolfhnd @AdrianRainbow I answer 🤡 with 🤡

I guess it's not rioting when nativist white men do it because they alone are patriotic citizens who...

AdrianRainbow comments on Jan 7, 2021:

No, it wasn't, it was a mostly peaceful demonstration that was false flagged by Antifa.

WilyRickWiles replies on Jan 7, 2021:

Matthew Heimbach is an antifascist in deep cover, huh.

I guess it's not rioting when nativist white men do it because they alone are patriotic citizens who...

wolfhnd comments on Jan 7, 2021:

Have you ever made any contribution to society? Creating strawmen is not a contribution. Where we are at now was predictable in the 60s. What kind of children did we expect the narcissistic and ultimately nihilistic 60s generation to produce? The Jack Dorsey's and Mark Zuckerberg's are ...

WilyRickWiles replies on Jan 7, 2021:

Also, if you answer what you think is a straw man with a straw man, don't expect to get a thoughtful response in return.

I guess it's not rioting when nativist white men do it because they alone are patriotic citizens who...

wolfhnd comments on Jan 7, 2021:

Have you ever made any contribution to society? Creating strawmen is not a contribution. Where we are at now was predictable in the 60s. What kind of children did we expect the narcissistic and ultimately nihilistic 60s generation to produce? The Jack Dorsey's and Mark Zuckerberg's are ...

WilyRickWiles replies on Jan 7, 2021:

@wolfhnd You're brainwashed or drank too much of your own Kool-Aid. The whole lot of you.

I guess it's not rioting when nativist white men do it because they alone are patriotic citizens who...

wolfhnd comments on Jan 7, 2021:

Have you ever made any contribution to society? Creating strawmen is not a contribution. Where we are at now was predictable in the 60s. What kind of children did we expect the narcissistic and ultimately nihilistic 60s generation to produce? The Jack Dorsey's and Mark Zuckerberg's are ...

WilyRickWiles replies on Jan 7, 2021:

Wake up dude, the world is leaving you behind. Father Coughlin is long gone.

I guess it's not rioting when nativist white men do it because they alone are patriotic citizens who...

RobD1 comments on Jan 7, 2021:

i guess its not rioting if its Blm or anitifa in portland and they firebomb a federal building and try to force entry for 100 days straight

WilyRickWiles replies on Jan 7, 2021:

@1patriot It will be a cold day in hell before I ally with Nazi scum like Matthew Heimbach.

I guess it's not rioting when nativist white men do it because they alone are patriotic citizens who...

RobD1 comments on Jan 7, 2021:

i guess its not rioting if its Blm or anitifa in portland and they firebomb a federal building and try to force entry for 100 days straight

WilyRickWiles replies on Jan 7, 2021:

It isn't? You see, I can be objective, but I'm going to guess that you're going to conflate that with every leftist protest and with every leftist. Moreover, you don't see that white supremacy is not morally equivalent to racial justice, for example.

Ashli Babbit - we must remember her and her name, and most importantly, what she believed in! As I ...

WilyRickWiles comments on Jan 7, 2021:

This wasn't a riot? https://twitter.com/WontPassDaBoof/status/1346960000376303619

WilyRickWiles replies on Jan 7, 2021:

@Genghis Seen this? https://twitter.com/PhilipinDC/status/1347028917685800961?s=09

I guess the South rose again. Cue someone telling me this is a Democrat...

timon_phocas comments on Jan 6, 2021:

Just like Jeff Davis, Pierre Beauregard and Nathan Bedford Forrest, staunch Republicans all!!

WilyRickWiles replies on Jan 7, 2021:

@parsifal I didn't erase anything. I'm arguing that parties are coalitions and their ideological factions change over time. You're arguing that they are static over 100+ years.

Ashli Babbit - we must remember her and her name, and most importantly, what she believed in! As I ...

WilyRickWiles comments on Jan 7, 2021:

This wasn't a riot? https://twitter.com/WontPassDaBoof/status/1346960000376303619

WilyRickWiles replies on Jan 7, 2021:

@Genghis Not sure why you think this was tamer than most of the BLM protests over the summer unless you have a really selective memory or are referring to the police rioting.

Ashli Babbit - we must remember her and her name, and most importantly, what she believed in! As I ...

WilyRickWiles comments on Jan 7, 2021:

This wasn't a riot? https://twitter.com/WontPassDaBoof/status/1346960000376303619

WilyRickWiles replies on Jan 7, 2021:

@Genghis Though I do agree that use of force during protests and riots that target property should be heavily restricted. Tough that they picked the US Capitol as their target and weren't clear about their intentions. Also there's the fact that known Nazi brawlers like Matthew Heimbach were among them. And in general they seemed to be aspiring fascist militants.

Ashli Babbit - we must remember her and her name, and most importantly, what she believed in! As I ...

WilyRickWiles comments on Jan 7, 2021:

This wasn't a riot? https://twitter.com/WontPassDaBoof/status/1346960000376303619

WilyRickWiles replies on Jan 7, 2021:

@Genghis They also ransacked offices.

Now what?

Edgework comments on Jan 6, 2021:

It was the Senate, actually. Do you really believe everything you hear on TV? After all this, do you believe anything you hear on TV? Your questions are useful to provoke discussion, but I’m dismayed by the way you reflexively accept the left’s framing of the topic, and their language. ...

WilyRickWiles replies on Jan 7, 2021:

One of the alleged antifa guys in the photos being passed around is fucking Matthew Heimbach. Might have to go back to Trump season 1 to remember who he is. Hint: he's a Nazi.

Ashli Babbit - we must remember her and her name, and most importantly, what she believed in! As I ...

WilyRickWiles comments on Jan 7, 2021:

This wasn't a riot? https://twitter.com/WontPassDaBoof/status/1346960000376303619

WilyRickWiles replies on Jan 7, 2021:

@Genghis This wasn't the entry to the building. This was where the woman was shot. She was in the very front.

Ashli Babbit - we must remember her and her name, and most importantly, what she believed in! As I ...

WilyRickWiles comments on Jan 7, 2021:

This wasn't a riot? https://twitter.com/WontPassDaBoof/status/1346960000376303619

WilyRickWiles replies on Jan 7, 2021:

@Genghis So the breaking of windows and doors in that video is not a riot? Just making sure. Though I might agree that riot isn't the most useful word in any context.

Now what?

Edgework comments on Jan 6, 2021:

It was the Senate, actually. Do you really believe everything you hear on TV? After all this, do you believe anything you hear on TV? Your questions are useful to provoke discussion, but I’m dismayed by the way you reflexively accept the left’s framing of the topic, and their language. ...

WilyRickWiles replies on Jan 7, 2021:

@SpikeTalon Neoliberals always want to blame "agitators" or "infiltrators" for leftist unrest. Never want to own up to the fact that they might be complicit in an injustice that has inspired people to rebel.

4 Dead, 52 Arrested, 2 Pipe Bombs Located Amid Rightist Attack on Congress [thehill.com]

rway comments on Jan 7, 2021:

So... *Mostly Peaceful* then, actually quite boring by the Left's newspeak standards.

WilyRickWiles replies on Jan 7, 2021:

The arrests at least! Certainly not the rest.

Now what?

JacksonNought comments on Jan 6, 2021:

Again, when does the shooting start? https://twitter.com/BGOnTheScene/status/1346904244008456193

WilyRickWiles replies on Jan 7, 2021:

@MichelleD Another way to think of this sort of thing. You think ethnic studies are a Marxist conspiracy, no? Did you know they were a demand by the Civil Rights Movement in response to a university system that Black and brown people were barred from participating in, and that studies in the social sciences were important for public sector work as we briefly began to confront the racism of Jim Crow and redlining? Then a year after the work began, Nixon shut it down. And we've had neoliberal disinvestment, privatization, and overpolicing since then. The Democrats support equality of opportunity as long as you're rich and upper middle class and the Republicans support the unadulterated interests of the rich. Their opposing interests and the different groups of people they need to coopt to hold power have to do with the industries in which they work. When you're closer to capital and financialization, you're more free to follow your ideals and try to make a better world. You're also not tied to any one national market because of how capitalism works and you have an incentive to get along with different people. But if you're into mining, you're kind of tied to one market, foreign policy, and labor dynamic. Meanwhile, if you're an ordinary person, your work makes you as atomized. You can either strive to be a professional (the neoliberal option), find a patron who will reward or punish you for your deference (the conservative option), or liberate yourself through collective power (the leftist option).

Now what?

Tom81 comments on Jan 6, 2021:

https://www.newswars.com/eyewitness-tell-alex-jones-antifa-provocateurs-may-have-led-charge-to-storm-us-capitol/

WilyRickWiles replies on Jan 7, 2021:

Dude, you don't think Alex Jones was in on it?

Now what?

Edgework comments on Jan 6, 2021:

It was the Senate, actually. Do you really believe everything you hear on TV? After all this, do you believe anything you hear on TV? Your questions are useful to provoke discussion, but I’m dismayed by the way you reflexively accept the left’s framing of the topic, and their language. ...

WilyRickWiles replies on Jan 7, 2021:

@SpikeTalon I don't accuse Proud Boys of infiltrating leftist protests in any meaningful way. Only thing I can think of is that guy in Minneapolis who was breaking windows and got caught right away.

Now what?

JacksonNought comments on Jan 6, 2021:

Again, when does the shooting start? https://twitter.com/BGOnTheScene/status/1346904244008456193

WilyRickWiles replies on Jan 7, 2021:

@MichelleD By globalists do you mean neoliberals, e.g. in the financial, technology, pharmaceutical, and entertainment industries, who back the Democrats? Or do you mean the entire capital class, including the energy, defense, property, and supply oligarchs that back the Republicans? Do you really think they have aligned interests and that they would have the Alex Joneses of the world stage this attack on Congress, but not with any intention of succeeding? Solely to divide people based on the political differences between someone like Trump and someone like AOC? With Trump, Biden, and the left in on it? Or by globalist do you just mean a Jewish or atheist cosmopolitan who supports social justice? You do know capitalism is a global system, in which the US has hegemony, no? No Marxism or Jewish people needed to explain it. Never mind that there is nothing wrong with internationalism, atheism, or being Jewish, and there is no "blood and soil" birthright to North America for white people.

Now what?

JacksonNought comments on Jan 6, 2021:

Again, when does the shooting start? https://twitter.com/BGOnTheScene/status/1346904244008456193

WilyRickWiles replies on Jan 7, 2021:

@MichelleD Are you going to plead ignorance? Sounds like the Know Nothings! https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Know_Nothing About which Abe Lincoln had some words: https://harpers.org/2008/02/lincolns-whig-credo/

Now what?

JacksonNought comments on Jan 6, 2021:

Again, when does the shooting start? https://twitter.com/BGOnTheScene/status/1346904244008456193

WilyRickWiles replies on Jan 7, 2021:

@MichelleD How do you explain what happened today? What motivated those people? Any parallels in history?

Now what?

JacksonNought comments on Jan 6, 2021:

Again, when does the shooting start? https://twitter.com/BGOnTheScene/status/1346904244008456193

WilyRickWiles replies on Jan 7, 2021:

@MichelleD I'll concede that they've duped a lot of ordinary people. I understand that perspective from having lived it. I don't need to engage it intellectually. Many, though, are little tyrants who want to lord over their wives, employees, neighbors, and marginalized people. Fuck those people.

Now what?

JacksonNought comments on Jan 6, 2021:

Again, when does the shooting start? https://twitter.com/BGOnTheScene/status/1346904244008456193

WilyRickWiles replies on Jan 7, 2021:

@MichelleD But tell me more about intellectual Trumpism.

Now what?

JacksonNought comments on Jan 6, 2021:

Again, when does the shooting start? https://twitter.com/BGOnTheScene/status/1346904244008456193

WilyRickWiles replies on Jan 7, 2021:

@MichelleD Read some history. At least if you identify with white supremacy, you will be able to do it consciously and affirmatively.

Now what?

JacksonNought comments on Jan 6, 2021:

Again, when does the shooting start? https://twitter.com/BGOnTheScene/status/1346904244008456193

WilyRickWiles replies on Jan 7, 2021:

@MichelleD Hell, I was a Republican.

Now what?

JacksonNought comments on Jan 6, 2021:

Again, when does the shooting start? https://twitter.com/BGOnTheScene/status/1346904244008456193

WilyRickWiles replies on Jan 7, 2021:

@MichelleD And yes, neoliberals are agents of systemic racism as well, but not in the same sort of "hood off" manner. They're not the terrorists we saw today.

Now what?

JacksonNought comments on Jan 6, 2021:

Again, when does the shooting start? https://twitter.com/BGOnTheScene/status/1346904244008456193

WilyRickWiles replies on Jan 7, 2021:

@MichelleD As I commented here: https://idw.community/article/106639/can-only-white-people-be-racist?aid=191933

Now what?

JacksonNought comments on Jan 6, 2021:

Again, when does the shooting start? https://twitter.com/BGOnTheScene/status/1346904244008456193

WilyRickWiles replies on Jan 7, 2021:

@MichelleD I'm not about demonizing individuals over personal racism. The issue is systemic racism--i.e. a racist power dynamic. Like you said, people with power use racism to divide ordinary people. That is what the Republican Party is the manifestation of. You had alluded to things like racism being a Marxist hoax. The violence at the Capitol today and how Republicans and law enforcement enabled it is an example of systemic racism.

Now what?

Edgework comments on Jan 6, 2021:

It was the Senate, actually. Do you really believe everything you hear on TV? After all this, do you believe anything you hear on TV? Your questions are useful to provoke discussion, but I’m dismayed by the way you reflexively accept the left’s framing of the topic, and their language. ...

WilyRickWiles replies on Jan 7, 2021:

@SpikeTalon It was clearly well-organized by the MAGA chuds. They had all sorts of supplies and roles organized ahead of time. And the famous IDW-affiliated celebrities were there with them, cheering them on.

Now what?

JacksonNought comments on Jan 6, 2021:

Again, when does the shooting start? https://twitter.com/BGOnTheScene/status/1346904244008456193

WilyRickWiles replies on Jan 7, 2021:

@MichelleD And as I said recently in another conversation: "Always be a critical media consumer. E.g., NYT is biased in favor of the foreign policy establishment, The Atlantic is propaganda for neoliberal elites (not unlike The Economist), Politico is access journalism (e.g. they may get scoops but may be beholden to their sources), teleSUR is biased in favor of the Venezuelan and Cuban governments, Al Jazeera is biased in favor of the Qatari government, Vox represents the center-left establishment, Jacobin leans toward class-reductionist Marxism, and The Marshall Project advocates for criminal justice reform on behalf of its funders. My media diet: The New York Times, The Washington Post, The Intercept, Financial Times, The Guardian, AP, Reuters, AFP, NPR, Axios, Politico, BBC News, teleSUR, Al Jazeera, The New Republic, The American Prospect, Vox, Boston Review, The New Yorker, ProPublica, BuzzFeed News, Democracy Now!, New York Magazine, The Nation, Dissent, Jacobin, The Baffler, In These Times, Current Affairs, The Atlantic, Sludge, The Marshall Project, FiveThirtyEight, CIR, PRI, Type Investigations, ICIJ, The Center for Public Integrity, Chicago Sun-Times, WBEZ, Chicago Reader, Block Club Chicago, The Chicago Reporter, South Side Weekly, Crain's Chicago, Injustice Watch"

Now what?

JacksonNought comments on Jan 6, 2021:

Again, when does the shooting start? https://twitter.com/BGOnTheScene/status/1346904244008456193

WilyRickWiles replies on Jan 7, 2021:

@Bay0Wulf is just a hater.

Now what?

JacksonNought comments on Jan 6, 2021:

Again, when does the shooting start? https://twitter.com/BGOnTheScene/status/1346904244008456193

WilyRickWiles replies on Jan 7, 2021:

@MichelleD I did... the KKK thought civil rights for Black people was a Marxist conspiracy. Positions change over time when there is positive social change from a starting point of injustice. Not to say that Democrats are right on everything. They are neoliberals who are opportunists on social issues and don't care about ordinary people. Meanwhile the Republicans are open white supremacists. That's why I'm a leftist--like the original Republicans. https://reason.com/2018/10/14/dont-blame-karl-marx-for-cultu/

I guess the South rose again. Cue someone telling me this is a Democrat...

wolfhnd comments on Jan 6, 2021:

Well I suppose it isn't any worse than displaying the hammer and sickle, an ideology that was responsible for millions of murders. There is a certain lack of sophistication in people that would do either.

WilyRickWiles replies on Jan 7, 2021:

@wolfhnd Is it?

Now what?

MichelleD comments on Jan 6, 2021:

What's the chance the storming of Capitol hill was staged by deep state?

WilyRickWiles replies on Jan 6, 2021:

@Rick-A Those are your guys!

Now what?

MichelleD comments on Jan 6, 2021:

What's the chance the storming of Capitol hill was staged by deep state?

WilyRickWiles replies on Jan 6, 2021:

Now what?

JacksonNought comments on Jan 6, 2021:

Again, when does the shooting start? https://twitter.com/BGOnTheScene/status/1346904244008456193

WilyRickWiles replies on Jan 6, 2021:

@MichelleD White supremacism and patriarchy aren't a Marxist hoax. But if it's not clear after today it never will be. There's more than two sides--every source of information will have some bias. One has to think critically. Best to start with mainstream assumptions and then test them as you learn more from trusted sources.

Meanwhile , Dames Against Feminism recently tweeted .

WilyRickWiles comments on Jan 6, 2021:

This imaginary Karen can go to hell!

WilyRickWiles replies on Jan 6, 2021:

@Zilladog I know what you like. Licking boot!

I guess the South rose again. Cue someone telling me this is a Democrat...

timon_phocas comments on Jan 6, 2021:

Just like Jeff Davis, Pierre Beauregard and Nathan Bedford Forrest, staunch Republicans all!!

WilyRickWiles replies on Jan 6, 2021:

@timon_phocas Jackson is Trump's favorite President btw.

I guess the South rose again. Cue someone telling me this is a Democrat...

timon_phocas comments on Jan 6, 2021:

Just like Jeff Davis, Pierre Beauregard and Nathan Bedford Forrest, staunch Republicans all!!

WilyRickWiles replies on Jan 6, 2021:

@timon_phocas Maybe it would help you to read those NYTimes articles above from '64. Do you remember Goldwater and his alignment on civil rights?

I guess the South rose again. Cue someone telling me this is a Democrat...

timon_phocas comments on Jan 6, 2021:

Just like Jeff Davis, Pierre Beauregard and Nathan Bedford Forrest, staunch Republicans all!!

WilyRickWiles replies on Jan 6, 2021:

@timon_phocas Do you identify as a Rockefeller Republican?

I guess the South rose again. Cue someone telling me this is a Democrat...

timon_phocas comments on Jan 6, 2021:

Just like Jeff Davis, Pierre Beauregard and Nathan Bedford Forrest, staunch Republicans all!!

WilyRickWiles replies on Jan 6, 2021:

@timon_phocas Ah a Republican from my own state. Like I used to be! Tell me, what part of the country was that and what was the breakdown by region and political party (let alone ideology) of the votes?

I guess the South rose again. Cue someone telling me this is a Democrat...

wolfhnd comments on Jan 6, 2021:

Well I suppose it isn't any worse than displaying the hammer and sickle, an ideology that was responsible for millions of murders. There is a certain lack of sophistication in people that would do either.

WilyRickWiles replies on Jan 6, 2021:

Or the American flag!

I guess the South rose again. Cue someone telling me this is a Democrat...

timon_phocas comments on Jan 6, 2021:

Just like Jeff Davis, Pierre Beauregard and Nathan Bedford Forrest, staunch Republicans all!!

WilyRickWiles replies on Jan 6, 2021:

@timon_phocas I'm not a Democrat, btw.

I guess the South rose again. Cue someone telling me this is a Democrat...

timon_phocas comments on Jan 6, 2021:

Just like Jeff Davis, Pierre Beauregard and Nathan Bedford Forrest, staunch Republicans all!!

WilyRickWiles replies on Jan 6, 2021:

@timon_phocas Tell me more about how Trump and/or the Republicans today would support radical Reconstruction or even the Civil Rights Movement.

I guess the South rose again. Cue someone telling me this is a Democrat...

timon_phocas comments on Jan 6, 2021:

Just like Jeff Davis, Pierre Beauregard and Nathan Bedford Forrest, staunch Republicans all!!

WilyRickWiles replies on Jan 6, 2021:

@timon_phocas Did you read the things I posted? Can you see how it challenges your narrative? Can you see that you're also arguing with a straw man?

Now what?

MichelleD comments on Jan 6, 2021:

What's the chance the storming of Capitol hill was staged by deep state?

WilyRickWiles replies on Jan 6, 2021:

Now what?

saramarylop3z comments on Jan 6, 2021:

Well, I for one am not suprised. I was briefly suprised they broke in, but not all that suprised they tried. MSM and politicians are absolutely reacting exactly as expected. "White supremacists", "domestic terrorists", have been so over used, they have no real impact anymore. Riots, and ...

WilyRickWiles replies on Jan 6, 2021:

"Look what you made me do."

Now what?

timon_phocas comments on Jan 6, 2021:

Howdy @Admin, The Dems and their media arm will construe this as insurrection and try to invoke the Insurrection Act to punish any conservative gathering.

WilyRickWiles replies on Jan 6, 2021:

Nah they'll do nothing or use it to repress more leftists. The elites still support "law and order" and the status quo that they protect is white supremacist and patriarchal. Then a future unified elite will use this type of coup opportunistically.

I guess the South rose again. Cue someone telling me this is a Democrat...

timon_phocas comments on Jan 6, 2021:

Just like Jeff Davis, Pierre Beauregard and Nathan Bedford Forrest, staunch Republicans all!!

WilyRickWiles replies on Jan 6, 2021:

@parsifal I mean I'd love for your narrative to be coherent. We need to finish Reconstruction!

I guess the South rose again. Cue someone telling me this is a Democrat...

timon_phocas comments on Jan 6, 2021:

Just like Jeff Davis, Pierre Beauregard and Nathan Bedford Forrest, staunch Republicans all!!

WilyRickWiles replies on Jan 6, 2021:

@parsifal Or the Populists? https://youtu.be/9VgeB-GG76U

I guess the South rose again. Cue someone telling me this is a Democrat...

timon_phocas comments on Jan 6, 2021:

Just like Jeff Davis, Pierre Beauregard and Nathan Bedford Forrest, staunch Republicans all!!

WilyRickWiles replies on Jan 6, 2021:

@parsifal Maybe you have some thoughts on W.E.B Du Bois.

I guess the South rose again. Cue someone telling me this is a Democrat...

timon_phocas comments on Jan 6, 2021:

Just like Jeff Davis, Pierre Beauregard and Nathan Bedford Forrest, staunch Republicans all!!

WilyRickWiles replies on Jan 6, 2021:

@parsifal Or this? https://beltmag.com/grand-dragon-dc-stephenson-kkk-indiana

I guess the South rose again. Cue someone telling me this is a Democrat...

timon_phocas comments on Jan 6, 2021:

Just like Jeff Davis, Pierre Beauregard and Nathan Bedford Forrest, staunch Republicans all!!

WilyRickWiles replies on Jan 6, 2021:

@parsifal Perhaps this? https://history.denverlibrary.org/news/when-kkk-ruled-colorado-not-so-long-ago

I guess the South rose again. Cue someone telling me this is a Democrat...

timon_phocas comments on Jan 6, 2021:

Just like Jeff Davis, Pierre Beauregard and Nathan Bedford Forrest, staunch Republicans all!!

WilyRickWiles replies on Jan 6, 2021:

@parsifal Or this? https://www.nytimes.com/1964/09/18/archives/thurmond-joins-goldwater-drive.html

I guess the South rose again. Cue someone telling me this is a Democrat...

timon_phocas comments on Jan 6, 2021:

Just like Jeff Davis, Pierre Beauregard and Nathan Bedford Forrest, staunch Republicans all!!

WilyRickWiles replies on Jan 6, 2021:

@parsifal How about this? https://www.nytimes.com/1964/06/28/archives/the-four-parties-goldwater-challenges-the-4party-system-his-aim-is.html

I guess the South rose again. Cue someone telling me this is a Democrat...

timon_phocas comments on Jan 6, 2021:

Just like Jeff Davis, Pierre Beauregard and Nathan Bedford Forrest, staunch Republicans all!!

WilyRickWiles replies on Jan 6, 2021:

@parsifal Or maybe this?

I guess the South rose again. Cue someone telling me this is a Democrat...

timon_phocas comments on Jan 6, 2021:

Just like Jeff Davis, Pierre Beauregard and Nathan Bedford Forrest, staunch Republicans all!!

WilyRickWiles replies on Jan 6, 2021:

@parsifal This you?

I guess the South rose again. Cue someone telling me this is a Democrat...

timon_phocas comments on Jan 6, 2021:

Just like Jeff Davis, Pierre Beauregard and Nathan Bedford Forrest, staunch Republicans all!!

WilyRickWiles replies on Jan 6, 2021:

@parsifal I didn't excuse the southern Democrats of yore. Nor do I refrain from criticizing today's neoliberals.

I guess the South rose again. Cue someone telling me this is a Democrat...

timon_phocas comments on Jan 6, 2021:

Just like Jeff Davis, Pierre Beauregard and Nathan Bedford Forrest, staunch Republicans all!!

WilyRickWiles replies on Jan 6, 2021:

@parsifal I bet you think Thaddeus Stevens was a conservative!

Now what?

SpikeTalon comments on Jan 6, 2021:

In regards to the guns being drawn and cops drawing theirs in the process, it's too early to say for sure who was behind that, and I cannot find enough sources saying the same thing. When ANTIFA/BLM had rioted, we were told to hold judgment as some of those rioters could have been the Proud Boys ...

WilyRickWiles replies on Jan 6, 2021:

I guess the South rose again. Cue someone telling me this is a Democrat...

timon_phocas comments on Jan 6, 2021:

Just like Jeff Davis, Pierre Beauregard and Nathan Bedford Forrest, staunch Republicans all!!

WilyRickWiles replies on Jan 6, 2021:

Conservatives*

Now what?

SpikeTalon comments on Jan 6, 2021:

In regards to the guns being drawn and cops drawing theirs in the process, it's too early to say for sure who was behind that, and I cannot find enough sources saying the same thing. When ANTIFA/BLM had rioted, we were told to hold judgment as some of those rioters could have been the Proud Boys ...

WilyRickWiles replies on Jan 6, 2021:

Elijah Schaffer a well-known rightist YouTuber was with them every step of the way.

THE NEW NORMAL Poor babies clutching their pearls and gasping in dismay.

WilyRickWiles comments on Jan 6, 2021:

The eternal scream of the reactionary (and Taylor Swift): "look what you made me do."

WilyRickWiles replies on Jan 6, 2021:

@AdrianRainbow Huh?

The aspiring fascists have breached the Capitol.

Edgework comments on Jan 6, 2021:

Hey, look, everybody? Aren’t they cute. They’re trying to think.

WilyRickWiles replies on Jan 6, 2021:

Oh hey it's the "look what you made me do" guy!

Now what?

CookieMonster comments on Jan 6, 2021:

after stoking the fire for 4 years the MSM and left are still blaming Trump, I would suggest they focus on stuff like walking back ideas about stacking the supreme court and other nefarious ideas. They need to focus on defusing this while they have time.

WilyRickWiles replies on Jan 6, 2021:

@CookieMonster You might want to get on with unifying the capitalist elites if you want to make good on your implicit threat.

Now what?

WilyRickWiles comments on Jan 6, 2021:

They're probably hoping to delay the counting of the electoral votes and force a constitutional crisis in which either the President or the white supremacist-dominated Supreme Court will take action to establish a fascist dictatorship. I doubt they will succeed because they haven't unified the ...

WilyRickWiles replies on Jan 6, 2021:

@CookieMonster Occam's razor.

Now what?

CookieMonster comments on Jan 6, 2021:

after stoking the fire for 4 years the MSM and left are still blaming Trump, I would suggest they focus on stuff like walking back ideas about stacking the supreme court and other nefarious ideas. They need to focus on defusing this while they have time.

WilyRickWiles replies on Jan 6, 2021:

Oh man the chutzpah. Well done.

Now what?

TyKC comments on Jan 6, 2021:

Interesting. No reports of police using tear gas or rubber bullets against these particular protesters. What gives? It shouldn't be this easy to overrun our Capital building.

WilyRickWiles replies on Jan 6, 2021:

Cops inside now taking selfies with the aspiring fascists.

Now what?

TheMiddleWay comments on Jan 6, 2021:

"Anarchists, Agitators or Protestors who vandalize or damage our Federal Courthouse in Portland, or any Federal Buildings in any of our Cities or States, will be prosecuted under our recently re-enacted Statues & Monuments Act. MINIMUM TEN YEARS IN PRISON. Don't do it! @DHSgov" - DJT, 27 JUL 2020

WilyRickWiles replies on Jan 6, 2021:

I guess that's the thing about "law and order" vs. "rule of law." The former is arbitrary punishment, wielded by the powerful against the powerless, and the latter limits power and allows for lenience.

Backing the blue ain't easy. [twitter.com]

Tom81 comments on Jan 5, 2021:

Neither is life in a gulag, how do you think you'll cope?

WilyRickWiles replies on Jan 6, 2021:

@Tom81 Given the circumstances of the video I posted, I think you have bigger worries than the left. Does it hurt to love the blue when the blue don't love you back?

Backing the blue ain't easy. [twitter.com]

Tom81 comments on Jan 5, 2021:

Neither is life in a gulag, how do you think you'll cope?

WilyRickWiles replies on Jan 5, 2021:

I'll be running them!

In My Humble Opinion!!!! Why am I starting to believe that the "Elite" are trying to take over the ...

WilyRickWiles comments on Jan 3, 2021:

Over the last 100 years the Rockefeller-types decided that ordinary people weren't smart enough to govern themselves. They implemented a new "scientific" or "professional" form of governance by making elected officials figureheads, delegating power to city managers and private foundations, and using...

WilyRickWiles replies on Jan 3, 2021:

@FrankZeleniuk But he sure gave us a fun narrative to cheer/jeer at!

In My Humble Opinion!!!! Why am I starting to believe that the "Elite" are trying to take over the ...

WilyRickWiles comments on Jan 3, 2021:

Over the last 100 years the Rockefeller-types decided that ordinary people weren't smart enough to govern themselves. They implemented a new "scientific" or "professional" form of governance by making elected officials figureheads, delegating power to city managers and private foundations, and using...

WilyRickWiles replies on Jan 3, 2021:

@FrankZeleniuk Remember, the parties are just figureheads. Unless Trump increased democracy (he didn't), whatever he did was just window-dressing.

In My Humble Opinion!!!! Why am I starting to believe that the "Elite" are trying to take over the ...

WilyRickWiles comments on Jan 3, 2021:

Over the last 100 years the Rockefeller-types decided that ordinary people weren't smart enough to govern themselves. They implemented a new "scientific" or "professional" form of governance by making elected officials figureheads, delegating power to city managers and private foundations, and using...

WilyRickWiles replies on Jan 3, 2021:

@FrankZeleniuk More propaganda. Trump and the Democrats are still serving the same masters. And they ain't socialist.

Can only white people be racist?

JacksonNought comments on Dec 18, 2020:

It really does come down to the definition. If we are talking the USA, and institutionalized racism, then yes it really only applies to white people, because they are the majority and have power and privilege. Just as saying if we are discussing institutionalized sexism in the USA, it only applies ...

WilyRickWiles replies on Dec 29, 2020:

@adriaan23 No, it's exactly not about individual guilt. It is about a system that works in a discriminatory manner.

Can only white people be racist?

WilyRickWiles comments on Dec 18, 2020:

With systemic racism, there is a dominant racist power dynamic: white supremacy. It's dominant because white people are the majority in population, wealth, and power, and they have written and preserved white supemacy (which, to state the obvious, causes harm to tens of millions of people) in the ...

WilyRickWiles replies on Dec 29, 2020:

@ZuzecaSape There's a history of different ethnicities becoming white, e.g. the Irish through policing and intermarriage. That has happened with Jewish people, to some extent with Asians (though they certainly don't have much power in this country), and it is starting to happen with Latinos. But only enough will be integrated into the white supremacist project to maintain their hold on power.

Laughing now?

WilyRickWiles comments on Dec 27, 2020:

What's the 1.0 for?

WilyRickWiles replies on Dec 27, 2020:

@MikeHunt She's Biden 2.0?

This is an example of forward thinking

Satch comments on Dec 24, 2020:

Gender studies is a useless degree right up there with critical race theory. If you really want to understand gender, study biology and psychology.

WilyRickWiles replies on Dec 24, 2020:

The civil rights movement demanded such programs. Do you know why? Because universities were segregated. Plus there was a need for more social workers to correct systemic racism in the small window where the demands of MLK Jr. and other civil rights leaders were taken seriously, e.g. before Nixon shut them down in response to a violent white racist backlash. Moreover, careers get the status and compensation that the powerful award them through professionalization or that they demand through unionization. Does it make you feel smart to know that you've just unquestioningly lapped up the half-baked mythology that white men of declining status use to justify the preservation of white supremacy and patriarchy? Your race and gender "science" is little different than the eugenics that was once cutting edge

Can only white people be racist?

WilyRickWiles comments on Dec 18, 2020:

With systemic racism, there is a dominant racist power dynamic: white supremacy. It's dominant because white people are the majority in population, wealth, and power, and they have written and preserved white supemacy (which, to state the obvious, causes harm to tens of millions of people) in the ...

WilyRickWiles replies on Dec 20, 2020:

@AnomalousAnon1 I admit that I crossed a line in impugning your beliefs, but that is because I generally assume bad faith around here. Apologies if I was wrong.

Can only white people be racist?

WilyRickWiles comments on Dec 18, 2020:

With systemic racism, there is a dominant racist power dynamic: white supremacy. It's dominant because white people are the majority in population, wealth, and power, and they have written and preserved white supemacy (which, to state the obvious, causes harm to tens of millions of people) in the ...

WilyRickWiles replies on Dec 20, 2020:

@AnomalousAnon1 My WaPo link had a number of studies showing Black people were more likely to be fatally shot by police. I'm guessing the FBI data shows the same--please show your source. Social democracy means a mixed economy. Much of the developed world has government run healthcare. The US has it for retirees and veterans. The US also has a government-run postal service and a pension-like program in Social Security. It had more such programs in the past. Even "libertarian" Singapore has a mixed economy, e.g. with highly-subsidized housing. You're already familiar with the Nordic countries. I'm sure you're familiar with the historical successes of Russia, China, and Vietnam. Brazil had great success reducing poverty with its Bolsa Familia program under Lula. Bolivia was an incredible economic success story under Evo. Where socialism has failed, it has often been on the receiving end of US sanctions, coups, death squads, and bombings. We're still learning about what happened in places like Indonesia and Latin America. Moreover, today much of the US and by extension world capitalist economy operates almost like a centrally planned economy but with privatized profits. Multinational billionaires rule rather than government officials, creating incentives at odds with people and places. The model of authoritarian corporate firms is practically mandated for publicly traded businesses. Banks, private equity, and corporations are capitalized by the Fed. Mass media is funded to produce state propaganda. Public research is sponsored and private research is subsidized. Defense companies operate on a contract basis for the federal government. And the system continues its increasing consolidation, platformization, and financialization. I voted for La Riva by the way, though I did so understanding how our two-party system worked. I still wanted Biden to win, because it was the least bad of two possible outcomes. I am working to find common ground, but I'm afraid it's not in the interest of capital to compromise with the working class. And I don't think the political center is where you probably think it is. I speak about race because that is the topic here. Racism is a function of class oppression and not understanding it, unpacking it, and understand history makes it very difficult to find common ground with people who have been racialized and marginalized. The division has already been done and trying to understand what, why, how, for whom, and what solutions are needed should not be taken as further division.

Can only white people be racist?

WilyRickWiles comments on Dec 18, 2020:

With systemic racism, there is a dominant racist power dynamic: white supremacy. It's dominant because white people are the majority in population, wealth, and power, and they have written and preserved white supemacy (which, to state the obvious, causes harm to tens of millions of people) in the ...

WilyRickWiles replies on Dec 20, 2020:

@AnomalousAnon1 "And curious, why no comment about entire villages being killed in order to enslave the young girls living there if you are so concerned with racism, slavery and social injustice?" Why haven't I heard you comment on the case before the Supreme Court that threatens to shield US corporations from liability over complicity in child slavery? Probably because you still don't understand systems--all you see is color.

Can only white people be racist?

WilyRickWiles comments on Dec 18, 2020:

With systemic racism, there is a dominant racist power dynamic: white supremacy. It's dominant because white people are the majority in population, wealth, and power, and they have written and preserved white supemacy (which, to state the obvious, causes harm to tens of millions of people) in the ...

WilyRickWiles replies on Dec 20, 2020:

@AnomalousAnon1 "In short, if your solutions are so great and do away with these problems, you should be able to give me an example of where they have been effective, especially if the policies you ostensibly support given your avatar, have been in place literally uninterrupted for decades." My avatar is a bit of a provocation, but what I'm really arguing for is social democracy, which has elements that have worked and continue to work here and across the globe. You presumably just prefer to uphold a false precarity in working and marginalized people's lives in order to boost the profits and social status of large corporations, the elite, and those in their patronage.

Can only white people be racist?

WilyRickWiles comments on Dec 18, 2020:

With systemic racism, there is a dominant racist power dynamic: white supremacy. It's dominant because white people are the majority in population, wealth, and power, and they have written and preserved white supemacy (which, to state the obvious, causes harm to tens of millions of people) in the ...

WilyRickWiles replies on Dec 20, 2020:

@AnomalousAnon1 "If the same democrat party that is so fervently supported by the American Communist Party, the People's Worker Party and other socialist and communist movements, had been in control, how long would it take to do away with the problems for all people?" The Democrats are neoliberal. Privatization, austerity, disinvestment, and hard-line policing don't breed social justice. Socialists oppose them but recognize that they are slightly less bad than Republicans.

Can only white people be racist?

WilyRickWiles comments on Dec 18, 2020:

With systemic racism, there is a dominant racist power dynamic: white supremacy. It's dominant because white people are the majority in population, wealth, and power, and they have written and preserved white supemacy (which, to state the obvious, causes harm to tens of millions of people) in the ...

WilyRickWiles replies on Dec 20, 2020:

@AnomalousAnon1 "The problems you mention regarding education and housing are just as prevalent in the Appalachian mountains and many rural areas largely populated by white families and has everything to do with poverty and nothing to do with race." Yes, there are racial AND class disparities in this country and that is a reason for interracial working class solidarity. Only the elite in both parties benefits from racial division. Take it from the late Fred Hampton.

Can only white people be racist?

WilyRickWiles comments on Dec 18, 2020:

With systemic racism, there is a dominant racist power dynamic: white supremacy. It's dominant because white people are the majority in population, wealth, and power, and they have written and preserved white supemacy (which, to state the obvious, causes harm to tens of millions of people) in the ...

WilyRickWiles replies on Dec 20, 2020:

@AnomalousAnon1 "Statistically, and based on a per capita equation, white people are still more likely to be shot during an interaction with cops." No, statistically, there are more white people than Black people, therefore in absolute numbers more white people are shot by cops, but they have a lower probability of being shot by cops, because more Black people per capita are shot by cops.

Can only white people be racist?

WilyRickWiles comments on Dec 18, 2020:

With systemic racism, there is a dominant racist power dynamic: white supremacy. It's dominant because white people are the majority in population, wealth, and power, and they have written and preserved white supemacy (which, to state the obvious, causes harm to tens of millions of people) in the ...

WilyRickWiles replies on Dec 19, 2020:

@AnomalousAnon1 That's just the last 50 years the created the status quo. I didn't even get into any workplace matters, banking, healthcare, private real estate, city planning of urban slums, etc. And of course people like MLK Jr. talked plenty about the problems before that. We had a consensus to address it, but white people threw a fit and Nixon stopped it in its tracks

Can only white people be racist?

WilyRickWiles comments on Dec 18, 2020:

With systemic racism, there is a dominant racist power dynamic: white supremacy. It's dominant because white people are the majority in population, wealth, and power, and they have written and preserved white supemacy (which, to state the obvious, causes harm to tens of millions of people) in the ...

WilyRickWiles replies on Dec 19, 2020:

@AnomalousAnon1 How about this (education)? https://news.wttw.com/2017/03/02/urban-league-research-highlights-ongoing-racial-disparity-education

Can only white people be racist?

WilyRickWiles comments on Dec 18, 2020:

With systemic racism, there is a dominant racist power dynamic: white supremacy. It's dominant because white people are the majority in population, wealth, and power, and they have written and preserved white supemacy (which, to state the obvious, causes harm to tens of millions of people) in the ...

WilyRickWiles replies on Dec 19, 2020:

@AnomalousAnon1 How about this (housing)? https://www.wbez.org/stories/settlement-could-end-landmark-housing-discrimination-case/81bc25bd-6a97-41d9-9f9b-8c9b1c9a5565