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HOW CAN WE HELP BRIDGE THE RACIAL DIVIDE

DO You want to help Blacks, really, do you want to help them, then Please please please do not advocate the 60's approach that destroyed the Black families by making them totally dependent on government for welfare, food stamps and other social services.

-Give them opportunity, not more dependence on government.

-Give them responsibility (especially not to abandon family) not more excuses for being oppressed and therefore justifying violence.

-Give them all real jobs no matter how low paying as long as it takes them away from the streets of drugs and gangs. The best solution to poverty is a Job.

-Give them access to be part of Investing and building national INFRASTRUCTURES, the real tangible assets and not more damn soft services that all they do is create more unrest along the line of : you are bad with White privilege and I am good but oppressed and I am going to protest and cancel you.

-Giver them tools to Build NOT Destroy.

-Give them Help and not Condescension.

-Give them, most importantly RETURN TO VALUES just exactly as Martin Luther King Jr preached. Without values, we all have no future.

As the great Thomas Sowell puts it:" When someone tries to lay a guilt trip on you for being successful, remember that your guilt is some politician's license to take what you worked for and give it to someone else who is more likely to vote for the politician who plays Santa Claus with your money."

I am sorry to be this vocal but I am Old and I am tired of hearing the NONSENSE solutions on FAKE NEWS.

Do you want to know what is really driving me to this: Two statements from BLM leaders:

  1. Destroying Property is NOT Violence and

  2. Looting is justified as Reparation.

WHERE WILL OUR SOCIETY GO WITH THESE?

Our Society will certainly crumble and fall. Then again, perhaps that is exactly what the evil people behind all this want. They think they will create a Marxist Utopia.

drshallal 6 Aug 12
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We'd better start looking at South Africa because the whites never believed it would happen there.

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The ones that have, have and the ones that don't have will continue to spin in circles. It is the same in many 3rd world countries today. Singing, dance, rap and basketball should be outlawed if you want any real change as many black youth think these are their rise to the stars. Not study and deferred gratification.

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We are beyond "giving" anything..it has not worked for many years and any continuation is now fruitless as their perception will always remain that we haven't given enough. I was in Chicago during the 60's riots and nothing has changed after all the years of condescending to their supposed needs and our supposed inequities. Their demands will never end as shown by the movement for monetary recognition of the historical past. They will not be and are not satisfied with the past, present, or future. An unpleasant reckoning is coming.

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The republican way; I will give you all, white and black, the same opportunity to get an education, a trade. No one shall be denied a k- education. We will have many options for the poor to go to college and trade schools. You just have to work for it and put in the time.

The Democrat way; We do not hold you responsible for quitting school in the sixth grade and turning into a drug salesmen. It is the white America that has caused you to live your life that way. We are going to take from the white devil and create SSI, welfare, medicade and a slew of other programs to keep you from working minimum wage jobs.

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My only point of contention is
"Give them all real jobs no matter how low paying as long as it takes them away from the streets of drugs and gangs. The best solution to poverty is a Job."

Low pay won't help at all. If it's not a wage they can actually afford a home and a way to leave the area they are trapped in, it won't work. They can make more money selling drugs easily and why would anyone live on poverty level wages when drugs makes more money. Many would not turn to drugs for money if they could make it on wages from a job but when u got kids and bills, min wage isnt gonna cut it. And yes, min wage was designed to provide a living wage, not a starter job wage for teens. Anyone working in America deserves a living wage because all jobs are needed. If we can't afford that much for workers we definitely can't afford folks like Bezos and Gates sitting on wealth at their levels.

Thank you for the comment. I understand. But, I re-iterate: a JOB gives people dignity even if the pay is low as long as it puts food on the table and roof over the head. Increasing minimum wages beyond capacity of market results with less number of jobs available. The idea is to HELP which some who commented here don't think is a good idea because it insults their dignity.

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Good fences make good neighbors.

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The only solution is separate societies for those who choose to live in one racial society and multiracial societies for those who choose to live in a mixed society. Total freedom of association as the founders intended.

@RossGray exactly, humans by nature chase the power and resources and are never happy just being.

All valid points.

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I feel absolutely no compulsion - no desire to "help the blacks" - not because I'm racist! But because such an idea is definitively racist in its genesis.

"The Blacks" don't need white peoples "help". They are as capable of managing their own lives, their own business as are Whites. They can navigate the various political, educational, economical, legal institutions quite well on their own.

"...soft bigotry of low expectations"

go look it up

I know it very well. But, If that is what you got from my post, then you miss-read it. It is proposing along much the same line of thinking that you commented with, except I would not phrase it like you. I think what you are not addressing is the Current Racial Divide. Whether you agree with it or not, it is there and your solution (and mine) will not suffice. Here in my Country, Canada we must admit to the reality we face. Here is a document that explains the issues. We cannot simply walk away from what we know are issues. Black issues (and all other groups issues) are society as a whole issues. We must Address them. [ohrc.on.ca]

@drshallal
The easiest way - the most expedient way for cynical politicians to accumulate support is to take the low hanging fruit of every mans innate although usually subliminal belief that he has somehow been mal-treated.
It doesn't take much to convince a man of something he inherently believes.
Blacks complaints although prescient are nonetheless completely unfounded.
Stop treating them like victims and they'll stop behaving like victims. The only thing we are obliged to confront is the lawlessness of "Black Activism tactics"
BTW, how many White people ever paused long enough to observe that the members of the violent mobs are in extremely good health.
Well nourished, clothed in the latest trendy stuff, in possession of the latest electronic gadgets...very strong and athletic physically but very weak intellectually IMHO.
Their bodies are well nourished - their basic physical needs are more than merely met. Conversely their ability to think and to behave rationally, objectively and to articulate their thoughts appropriately on the most basic levels, is greatly atrophied. This has NOTHING to do with their collective IQ level. It has everything to do with the "soft bigotry of low expectation". In reality they have been literally trained and conditioned (as in the conditioning of lab rats) to the disturbing levels of incompetence with regard to reasoning and articulation. Their poor education is absolutely the result of the "well meaning" work of the virtue signaling bigots who pat them on their nappy heads and say - "there there" you can't help being Black -we will look after you"...

Who is responsible for that I wonder. The bigots who embrace their compulsions to "help the Blacks" - that's who.

I see the phrase "helping blacks" more as helping to fight poverty and the problems of areas with high amounts of poverty. The things listed would help Appalachian poor folks just as much as blacks but whites are never included in talks because of how the narrative is pushed. Most people never let poverty in middle america cross their mind, esp democrats. Just look at statements made by dem leaders.

"Poor kids and white kids" have to look up who said that to get the while quote but excluding white kids from poor shows racism that people are cool with

"White people don't know what poverty is like" Bernie Sanders

@george It was Joe Biden who said Poor kids just as ...as White kids"...LOL of course revealing his racism.
Bernie Sanders was only about 85% right - he left out the 15% Blacks. I have long submitted that no one in this country really knows poverty.
Look at it like this:
In USA people wake up every morning thnking about what fun thing -what cool stuff are they going to experience during their day.
If you look around there are countries where people wake up every day wondering if they'll be able to find something decent to eat, get a drink of clean water and to lay their heads in safety and comfort for one more night - even with pangs of hunger in their tummies.
IF there are people struggling to find food and water in USA it has nothing to do with bad policy. It has everything to do with how people, families manage their own lives - or in the case of the poor folks in Appalachia their culture.
Hate to break it to folks but Feeding clothing and housing the people is NOT the job of Gov't. It just isn't.

@iThink I don't think it is the governments responsibility either but we disagree about poverty in a few ways. Yes, poverty in America is not poverty in third world countries but I just lean to the side of isolating our culture and how we help our own people to better their self. In a country this rich no area should be left behind on opportunity and programs that help kids and young adults find a path to a better future. Education and resources are not the kind of things poverty stricken areas really have. I don't agree with just giving handouts but when u have kids raised in communities where they only see drugs and crime they won't ever learn how to better their self. The culture as a whole just don't offer the education to kids and resources are spent on tax breaks and wars instead of helping the less fortunate who don't know the way out if their situations. Being from Appalachia I have seen these things first hand and many kids want out but have no idea where to even start.

@iThink there are areas in my county where people have a min 45 min drive just to get to a fast food restaurant to work part time for min wage. The gas cost to travel an hour and a half only to work 4 hours for $7.50 an hour just don't add up. Hand outs don't help anyone but opportunity is not equal at all for some folks. If u make $30 for your 4 hour day then get it taxed then take out the fuel cost for an hour and a half driving, what kind of profit is that? $10 a day? Drugs can at least put food on the table.

@iThink "In USA people wake up every morning thnking about what fun thing -what cool stuff are they going to experience during their day."

U should visit some of the backwoods areas of KY, WV, VA, TN, and the Carolinas. Cool stuff to do for the day is not a very common thought for kids who don't even have cable television or access to public water and still rely on wells for water. Cool stuff is just not a part of their existence. It's not talked about in America but it does exist. I know the hollows to show people real poverty in the USA.

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I agree with you. The destruction of the family has been normalized and feminism gave women legitimacy to their single parenthood.

Yes! and all done on the false premise that "the Blacks" are "white mans burden. A racist idea if ever there was one!

@iThink 100% true

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