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Vaccines . And go!!!!!!!!

Rockyfortune 4 Feb 15
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Do I appreciate vaccines? Yes! Do I think they are safe? For some people. Should everyone be forced to have them, hell no. Western Medicine consensus is based on a “peer review” model. Regrettably, that offers serious opportunity and even likeliness for bias and misinformation.

Doctors are all allowed to weigh in on their opinion of vaccines but consider this. If you have damage to your esophagus from heart burn associated with food sensitivies that requires a treatment plant, an ENT will typically not assist. The Gastroenterologist will not treat the issue since the damaged tissues are not within their scope of anatomy. The allergist won’t treat you because food sensitivities are not an IGE response therefore are outside of their scope of practise. If the issue progresses long enough, you may be referred to an internal specialist, immunologist, or rheumatologist. By this point, damage has progressed, root cause was not identified and all along the way you will be told misinformation by each doctor based on their knowledge base. Let’s say, this issue progresses and you eventually diagnose lupus through a rheumatologist and you begin having seizures. The seizures are related to your lupus but because they involve your CNS, you need a neurologist, who won’t treat you because the cause is your autoimmune condition which he has too little knowledge of.

The only people whom have sufficient knowledge to weigh in on the safety of vaccines are immunologists and possibly geneticists. The people who specifically have extensive knowledge of how this actually works.

Beliefs I have after significant research and experience in the medical system.

  1. Vaccines do NOT cause autism.
  2. Vaccines DO manipulate our adaptive immunity which triggers inflammation, it is unreasonable to disregard this factor in all inflammatory diseases, not just autism.
  3. Autism severity is directly linked to neurological inflammation.
  4. Genes activate and deactivate based on physiological conditions which are impacted by the environment both internal and external to the body.
  5. Once vaccines are administered there is no way to prove what would have or would not have occurred to patients who report adverse effects because no data exists to support their genetic/metabolic/immune state immediately prior to receiving the vaccine.
  6. Additional booster rounds seem to be administered without significant data to justify a substantial benefit for second round administration. It seems foolish to administer a second round of vaccines to everyone for example if (not quoting actual numbers) 90% of people are immune after the first round. Why then, in an effort to improve immunity for the remaining 10 percent, should all 100% of people who received the vaccine go back a second time rather than only the 10%? Someone benefits from this procedure and it’s difficult not to draw back to the drug companies.... who coincidentally fund many research projects for influential physicians in the medical industry. Perhaps the same physicians that have the loudest “peer review” voices on studies opposing the safety of vaccines for all individuals....

I say, follow your gut instinct. If you think vaccines are good for you, do it. If you don’t, then don’t. I have 3 children. 2 diagnosed with autism, 1 who is not. My immunologist recommenced against vaccination of my third child based on genetic conditions I presented shortly after his birth. I did most but not all vaccinations on the older two. While I my youngest could qualify for an autism diagnosis down the road, it’s undeniable that his development has been most neurotypical of my children. I do watch inflammatory foods and find that his function will decrease when his environment activated inflammation. (Food sensitivities, seasonal allergies etc)
Foods we can stop eating, seasons change, vaccines? Those we can’t undo.

on that note jennjones. do you believe your doctor when he says there is nothing that can be done for your children and medication is the only answer? Through my extensive investigations of this issue i am coming more to the belief that if you want to get completely precise you need to understand that maybe no , vaccines aren't the causation but enough can't be said of their correlation to autism. I believe the concept of contracting a disease on your own terms and building life long immunity as well but here's the thing that puts the red flag on this topic for me . The history and the out right lies and deception , the greed and pompousness and pure arrogance of a fascist medical regime . As per del bigtree on highwire last episode i do believe in this . You want to shut the anti vaxxers up ? compare the completely unvaccinated to the fully vaccinated. double blind placebo third party with out any pharma ties . They keep trying to pull the wool over our eyes with such studies like the one out of denmark but upon dissection we find time and time again that they are serving these companies in their findings . I do appreciate your input however . Thank you for sharing.

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Very honest answer. So hard to find people that can see both the pros and the cons. I would naturally believe that you would be against mandates. I could be wrong but I hope not. If you said what you did in a pro vaccine conversation however you’d most likely be labelled anti vax. My goal is to at the very least get people to think about both sides of the debate but it usually gets met with some turtle meme talking about bringing peanut butter to school lol.

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I see their benefit. I also know that we are legally mandated to consume this product and are forbidden from suing the makers of these very profitable products for damages. And by the way the companies employ an army of lobbyists in DC. Seems a bit dirty.

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It was the normal media storm and pharma black wall of dr. wakefield . He has since been re instated but nobody heard anything about that I suppose . I think the biggest misconception is that anti vaccine movement came from him and jenny mccarthy. This is simply untrue . The movements been around since jenner first developed the small pox vaccine that may have taken his own sons life . About dr. wakefield though . I think its a little ironic that they blamed him for a conflict of interest when everything we know about the studies on vaccines from organizations such as who and the cdc is in fact a gross misconduct in the area of conflict considering they hold patents on vaccines . Thats like having the fox guard the hen house in my estimation . There are too many odd occurrences and blatant undermining that it's no longer cut and dry . Is there a risk to not vaccinating ? Of course . Is there a risk of vaccinating ? Of course . Vaccines are unavoidably unsafe . If this is the case then I can't get my head around why some people would want to force this on others. you've only to look at the documents that came out of the nuremberg trials to see how slippery the medical tyranny slope can be . And thats why it was adopted that no hu8man should be forced to partake in a medical procedure they feel may be harmful to them .

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Didn’t the guy who conducted the “research” into the link of autism and vaccinations lose his medical licance?

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I found this to be well said and I agree with it 100%:

I’m not anti-vaccine, I’m pro common sense.

It's common sense to question why a Doctor would force vaccinating a child against an STD on the day of their birth when both parents are clean.

It's common sense to disagree with the legality of my Doctor receiving bonuses based on the number of patients he vaccinates.

It's common sense to question the integrity of a 60 billion dollar industry that successfully bought legislation that makes them free of all liability when they cause harm.

It's common sense to be concerned when vaccine producers “donate” millions of dollars every year to the people who help determine the suggested vaccine schedule. (Academy of Pediatrics)

It's common sense to question the integrity of a system where the former Director of the CDC is now Vice President for the largest vaccine producer in the world.

It's common sense to “actually” read the pamphlets before vaccinating.

It's common sense to weigh the risk verses benefit, like any other medication.

It's common sense to find out for yourself the number of people that have been adversely affected by vaccines.
It's common sense that it’s wrong to pay injured families only if they agree to be silent about their adverse reactions.

It's common sense that the number of adverse reactions are flawed because most go unreported.

It's common sense that when “risk of death” is listed as a side effect on a vaccine, for a disease that isn’t life threatening, it might not be worth giving to my healthy child.

It's common sense to question western medicine when 60 years ago they encouraged pregnant women to smoke.

It's common sense to question western medicine because of how long they knew cigarettes cause cancer, but remained silent due to the amount of money that was involved.

It's common sense to be weary of everything when our country is the sickest it has ever been.

It's common sense that most people aren't willing to do the research, but I was, and I won't stop the pursuit of a less corrupt medical system.

I'm not anti-vaccine, I'm pro common sense.

  • Judith Arancibia

As per the above, something don't smell right to me about vaccines. My body, my choice - and that of my child. I have never been inclined to give in to fear tactics, whether about medicine, politics or religion.

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Should never be a choice unless the doctor says its medical.

what's your reasoning for this?

Wow, someones bodily autonomy is always to be respected. Whatever your feelings on vaccinations forcing them onto people doesn't lead anywhere positive.

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Always should be a choice...

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