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Do you think public schools should bring back corporal punishment?

SpikeTalon 10 Feb 17
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How about we punish the parents and guardians, for releasing a untrained child into society...?

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Yes! In the context of our present day culture the practice would be frot with difficulties. Still a return to a life style and mindset where consequences were swift and sure would greatly benefit young people in preparing them for the reality of life. People fear the emotional damage done by such practices but those are purely emotional and even hysterical responses at their core.

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I am a high school teacher and I would like to say I could certainly see some benefits. I don't know how much it would be used or if just the threat of punishment could shift school atmospheres away from where we are now. A French teacher I knew once said it really well, schools started to lose their purpose (in France, but I see it as similar to U.s.) as soon as "The Child became King" I think this is very true. Parent's high expectations for their child's performance has had many of them to clearly miss their child's obvious shortcomings. They mobilize when their child falls below a B or below an A depending on the parent, we all know the parents I'm talking about. Perhaps your child is gifted in one subject, that by no way means they will be gifted or superb in every other subject as well. Even if they're highly task oriented and complete everything they should expect to do better in some class than others. Teachers are afraid of parents and students, they know by not giving an A to a top student can legitimately affect their future so the problem in high schools is really created by colleges.

However, back to corporal punishment, my comment wanted to point out that the atmosphere in schools certainly needs to change but we really need to think why they are the way they are. As for the use of punishment to create a better atmosphere you should look at Native American Reservations today. Here in NC, in Lumbertonian and Cherokee reservations you can find corporal punishment at their academies (a direct result of the policies implemented during forced assimilation) however, these two tribes view this style of education very positively. They have high levels of enrollments in the Armed Forces, and are some of the highest earning Native populations in the country. With all that being said, I can certainly see a case for it, the success they have enjoyed as a culture could come directly from this style of education. Although I think you would be hard pressed to find a Navajo, or Sioux who agrees with this policy of education at Catholic Schools. In fact, within those two western tribes we see the highest degree of poverty in the Nation and we also ironically see the "I survived Catholic School" movements that seek to call out this use of Corporal Punishment and even blame these institutions for the cultural problems their communities face. I believe this couldn't be further from the truth, when compared to Eastern tribes who cooperated with the government historically and as a result received more autonomy.

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The question is too vague. What is considered corporal punishment? Is time out corporal punishment? And be specific to what age you are talking about.

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As far as I'm aware there is little evidence of the efficacy of corporal punishment in schools, when it was in existence in my day I was terrified.
I was more terrified of the backlash I would get from my parents though when they found out I was misbehaving at school.
So perhaps the issue should be parents should be educated and supported to feel confident enough to discipline their children in respect of their behaviour.
The need to respect teachers and schools as educators is also important as is the need to ensure education is valuable to all. Not only focusing on academic education but practical too. Stop testing all kids the same way for example, engage with those that don't fit the norm and find different ways of learning and development.
I worked in a private school for kids with learning disabilities and challenging behaviour, it was the norm to physically intervene with the kids, this did nothing but to increase the need for physical intervention. However when looking at needs and having those needs met the need for physical intervention went down... Funny that.

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No.

I support parents in disciplining their children but I don’t think the state has a right to lay a finger on my child.
That being said I think schools are too soft on kids as it is, but that’s a different debate.

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Most of my kid's teachers are troglodytes. My kids know they are gonna get an ass whooping if they do anything that bad in school. So they don't mess up much. Other kids whose parents are absent? Maybe. I dunno. Some schools are out of control.

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