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Legalize all drugs in the US. All profits go towards drug education & rehabilitation so that in 1-2 generations drug abuse won’t be as large of an issue.

Borntorebel 2 Feb 25
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Shmoke em if ya got em. Some people can't control their vices, they need help not prison.
The rest of us are fine.

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Can't do that - if people are healthy, happy, and successful - how can the government fool them into believing it is needed, along with all that tax revenue it takes?

I think you've entirely missed the point.

@KrustyG Uhhh....I was being sarcastic

@jondspen My bad, my apologies. Sarcasm is very hard detect, especially in a discussion/debate forum. I know it's an old joke, but we really need a font called Sarcastica help a doofus like me!

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I agree with the baseline of this argument but for different reasons. As a human being I own my body. The government, by criminalizing drugs, is claiming ownership of my body in the respect that they get to choose what I am and am not allowed to put in it. That to me is fully unacceptable. So long as I do no harm to my fellow man whilst inebriated it is none of their damn business what I decide to ingest, smoke, or snort.

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Not even an untried idea. Portugal decriminalized all drugs in 2001. Deincentivize criminal behavior. Refocus policing to other crimes. Reinstitutionalize rehabs. Why do I think that this will never happen?

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I would definitely consider the decriminalization of all drugs similar to the plan in Portugal. Legalize all is a challenge for me. I believe that weed should be completely declassified and deregulated. I have a hard time seeing opioids in the same way. The following article that I posted on my FB page came to mind: [thestranger.com]

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I agree, recreational drugs should be legalized.

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Posted earlier on agnostic.com:

Insanity: doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results.

Society desperately needs to learn the difference between vice and crime. Prosecute crime, counsel against vice. Passing a law doesn't change a vice into a crime.

Correct the root cause of the problem. Most overdose deaths are caused by drugs supplied by criminals and lacking quality control. Legalized, available over the counter, quality controlled opioids will end the overdose epidemic. Most users of alcohol, nicotine and caffeine remain productive, well-adjusted law-abiding citizens. Without prohibition, the same would be true of most users of "recreational" pharmaceuticals. There are hundreds of thousands of respectable professionals, politicians and middle class citizens who are regular users, without serious problems (as long as they avoid detection by law enforcement).

Allow addicts to retain some self respect, and give them a fighting chance to kick their addiction. Reduce the prison population and save billions of tax-payer dollars. Remove the revenue stream from the criminals. End drug-related gang violence. Allow law enforcement to focus on their primary function of protecting citizens.

Please, let's end the police state activities.

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Decriminalize, not legalize. We should all have the ability to put what ever substance we want into our bodies. As an adult I have earned the right to do with my body what I want as long as I do no harm to others. prohibition is only in place to control the masses and is based on lies.

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Confiscating profits will create the same incentives as the current prohibition. There will be little to no change in the market under this policy. It will simply be more lucrative to continue operating within black and grey markets than to join in with this plan.

There would be ways to trace origin of drugs, not govt big time jail or fine. Prices would be low & guaranteed quality.

@Borntorebel That is all fine and good, plenty of incentive to buy from the program, but no incentive to sell into it. Even if you attempted to corner or trace the supply of any drug, the program design acts as a supply-side prohibition and thus incentivizes the diversification of drugs in such an unpredictable manner as could never be followed or controlled by your program's administrators (even with the best algorithms money could buy). Some buyers will utilize the program, but illicit sellers are also incentivized to find better ways to meet buyers where they are, thereby decreasing perceived transaction costs among potential buyers. The program could only ever mildly compete with the black/grey markets and therefore must ultimately fail to achieve its stated goals.

A more reasonable policy, in my estimation, would be to end the War on Drugs, and enact the Portuguese Model - taking the DEA's budget, for instance, and using it to finance the education/rehabilitation programs that you have suggested above.

The problem is the 3rd undeniable rule of human action: incentives matter.

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I agree with legalize and educate but I don't think anything can be done to slow or stop drug use. Even cave paintings show our ancestors using drugs of some sort. There will always be a portion of people who partake in drugs and nothing will change that IMO.

Yes there will be. In some European countries alcohol is part of the culture & they don’t have the problems to the extent we have because people understand what alcohol does. Not saying it eliminates the problem, it cuts down the occurrences.

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Yes yes and yes. Except kids are stupid and will always experiment with drugs to some proportion

So what

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Johann Hari has a book called chasing the scream. It reviews drug policy from all over the world including places where they have instituted similar policies to what you're discussing with glowing results

My first time on here and I've already got another book on my Amazon list. Thanks!

He has also done multiple long form interviews on Joe Rogans podcast! Worth checking out

Wonderful read. I also recommend "In the Realm of Hungry Ghosts" by Gabor Mate

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