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I have a follow-up question, I would like to ask specifically of our good friends who are either atheist or agnostic.

Do you believe in inalienable rights? If either yest or no, I would be interested in why you feel that way.

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Peelsr 5 Mar 23
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Have you ever read Starship Troopers by RAH? The whole novel is one long discussion of "rights" and "responsibility". I bought it as a young teenager, his thoughts on rights and the presentation of the logic of rights was astounding. It guided me through my entire life to this day. (Do not see the movie , it had nothing in common with the book.)

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In a perfect world I do but this world is not perfect, nor was it created to be as such. For example, The Declaration of Independence states that inalienable rights include life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness. But, life is not a guarantee with roe vs wade, our liberty is defined by laws or rules creating limitations, and happiness is nebulous and not the best goal if you want to live a fulfilling life.

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At one point I did believe in the concept of inalienable rights, based on my observations over the years can't say I believe that anymore. When I see one country that oppresses its citizens and another country in which supports maximum individual liberty, I know deep down inside the rights I currently have did not come from a divine being, but rather from the blood of those who came before me who fought and died for said rights. Additionally, I have what rights I have due to the fact I am armed and ready to fight if necessary to preserve my rights. It's for this reason I strongly think individual rights are a human-conceived concept.

Thanks for your perspective.

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Did not vote bc not atheist, but I don't think Atheists can come up with an inalienable rights theory that works. I think the best they can do is say "hey, we all have rights. Is that cool with everybody? Yes? Okay, cool."

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Let me be honest here, I am not an atheist or agnostic. My brother is and I asked him this question. He does believe in inalienable rights. He does not think they come from God. He thinks they come from the rationality of humans. I asked him what happens when humans are not rational and we are in the middle of that conversation......

Thanks for your feedback. It is enlightening. Does your brother consider inalienable rights natural rights?

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