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Anybody up for a sane conversation about how the church has influenced the current militant milieu in the US?

I'll start by disclosing I have a fairly fundamental religious background, but now consider myself a God-leaning agnostic--a probabilistic statement. I'm keenly interested in God and the role of God in truth, and I consider myself part of 'the church', while acknowledging the church may not consider me with them. It's complicated.

Assertion 1) The institution of Church has gravely harmed God's intention for the church.

Assertion 2) The church never grasped its 'divine' role in the world as a reflection of God's love.

Assertion 3) In place of love, God's people modeled judgment, condemnation, and contempt until the world got so tired of it, they started fighting back.

Assertion 4) The secular world formed what amounts to secularized religion based on the worship of no-God, and they proceeded to attack the church with the intention of eradication.

Assertion 5) In the attempt to eradicate the church, the secular world burned all of our community and individual values that America was founded on.

Assertion 6) the secular army didn't have any plan whatsoever of replacing our values with any formal new set of secularized values.

Assertion 7) We currently sit in the confusion created by the destruction of our entire value system without plausible replacement.

This is fairly loose. If anyone's interested in playing, jump in wherever you want. I'll try to add detail and complete thoughts and incorporate new ideas as appropriate, and as it comes to me from my own thinking or from ideas you add. I'm not a particularly organized person, so if anyone wants to offer suggestions, offer away.

chuckpo 8 Apr 3
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