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The disgrace of the Adam and Eve story is that it is fiction. There was a very real first man and woman born as a human. It was no Fictional Adam and eve. It is mind boggling that the first human was really born and we as homo sapiens create an offensive imaginary story instead of accepting the honest truth that a man and woman really was born for the first time. Homo sapiens is very imaginative and rejects reality even though reality is far more astonishing than thd stories they make up

Beachslim 8 Oct 2
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Of course Adam and Eve is "fiction". It's mythology. It was never aiming at literal truth, but Truth with a capital "T". Arguing against a literal interpretation is as stupid as the fundamentalists. It's a story about origins to convey profound meaning. Have another read of it, and imagine Adam and Eve represent newborns. They start out with all their needs being met by parents in the garden - Paradise. All they gotta do is cry out and their needs are met. They name all the animals etc. Then they realise their separateness. They become disobedient and assert their individual will for the first time, and realise they are naked... They gain the knowledge of good and evil and are forever ejected from the Garden.

Also, there is no such thing as the "first biological Sapiens Sapiens". Not how evolution works. There was a "mitachondrial Eve" but that's not the same thing. You need to study some biology and learn how evolution works. Speciation can happen suddenly (ie. one group gets isolated from another population and within a relatively short space of time can no longer mate with the other group to produce offspring) but there was never a time where homo erectus parents gave birth to Sapiens. That's some creation science level bullshit.

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Hello. Don't know about disgrace but reading the Bible this way could be fun.

@Beachslim The bible is a pretty amazing book, perhaps the greatest work of literature in human history. Pays massive dividends to at least give it a single read-through. You will understand history and art and culture so much better if you do.

Some whack stories. Balaam and his donkey is a good one. There's another where Elisha (one of the greatest prophets) was walking along a road to the next town. A bunch of kids started paying out on him calling him "baldy" so Elisha prayed and a huge bear jumped out and ate them.

There's a saying repeated a few times where someone (in this case King Saul) goes into a cave to "cover his feet". It means "taking a dump" where the dude wearing robes crouches down to shit and his robes "cover his feet". Saul was trying to kill David (who was the rightful King) and he sees Saul go into the cave. He sneaks in while he's having a shit and cuts off a piece of his robe, then bolts. When Saul comes out, David holds up the piece of cloth to say "Coulda killed you, but I didn't."

Lots of other colourful sayings, like male children (in the more literal King James Version) are referred to as "they that pisseth against the wall".

I recommend the Book of Esther. Bloody good yarn and quite a short book. Also Song of Songs is pretty funny. It's a collection of love poetry which very nearly didn't make it in. There's cultural differences which make it a little strange like "her breasts were like ripe pomegranates". Don't know if you've ever had one, but they're pretty lumpy. I'd be sending that lass straight out to get a mammogram!

Check out Jordan Peterson's biblical lecture series. He goes through the first few books and the mythological meanings, referencing psychology and modern literature and tying it all together. You are obviously right to find the literal interpretation bollocks, but that's some surface-level shit. Even the New Testament is utter bollocks. There was no historical person Jesus Christ. Nazareth didn't even exist until middle of the second century CE. You can pretty much prove there is no historical Jesus just using biblical texts and knowing when they were written. However, there has never been a greater story told. All I best stories are pretty much carbon copies of it (the Matrix comes to mind).

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