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Hi, I am nothing and no one, I've never had political veiws or understood politics, I never thought past surviving another day, I'm 42 and my life has been long and chaotic but I didn't find JP till my life was, what appeared to others, to be stable,I finally had a good nonabusive guy but due to an injury at work, haven't worked for a few years, which left me feeling so useless,worthless and hopeless, not to mention a burden.....I found JP and have changed so much that I broke up with my boyfriend as he was a bit controlling and enabling me to stay in a rut, it hasn't felt right for a while and now that I'm single and practically homeless, I need JP'S wisdom and knowledge more than ever before...I'm not an academic or anything worthwile but I have the potential, I know it's in me, being a good person is the easy part, knowing what you stand for and following your gut is the hard part but I'm gonna keep going, keep trying, keep being...I have no true understanding of the far left and far right, but I can learn and more importantly am willing to both learn and grow...

MWhite 6 Apr 13
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John Denver used to sing: 'I was born in the summer of my twenty second year...' You were apparently born in your 42nd year. What matters is that you've been born. As you journey along your path, you'll find that you're NOT nothing; NOT worthless. Simply continue. Learn to meditate. Look deeply inside, and you will find someone that is worthwhile, and that you and others can love.

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Exceedingly interesting outcome of this thread. I'm not sure I've seen a thread better expose the ways we all see some things differently. Tons of variability on this thread.

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Your courage and honesty is your strength shinning through. The good will shown here, in many of the responses to your open message, hopefully are proof to you that you matter. Just by being a human- being, look at what you have done already. 🙂

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I started the 7:59 Fellowship so people could remember and take one minute every day to count their blessings. 30 seconds to reflect on all the good that is and has been in your life. There is more to each of us and the abundance we have. Give yourself a minute of happiness. I hope this can help you.

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Personal contentment is a sticky wicket. The great lie is that it comes from circumstance or life style. Find what gives you peace. Substances are not an option in this search. The world of political debate will not fill this need either. You must come to understand yourself. Strengths, weaknesses, likes, dislikes. When you can start to honestly accept yourself you can start to honestly accept others and when needed reject others for your honest best interests without nagging regrets.

If you refer to yourself as nothing and believe that you will be lost forever looking for someone or something to fill you up. People will never work to fulfill you. It is most unfair to ask or assume them too. Folks are spiritual beings. I believe our real strength begins there and in the fullness of time returns there. Your spirit is your core. Find and feed this and you will find your stable, peaceful, steady place of sure footing. From this place you will find and grow in spiritual peace and strength. From there you will project these into the world around you without having to try very hard.

It is a long process. Start by accepting you where you are. You are on a great adventure. The meaning of life. The Face of God. Great big questions you will never solve but in the search for them your eyes leave your broken self and slowly focus on wholeness and divinity. As you leave the one you will become more like the other. Be advised this process also works in reverse!
Blessings,

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Good for you! You should try to read Jordan Peterson's book if you haven't done so. The far left and the far right are typically authoritarian extensions of the right and the left with a fixation on a particular aspect. For instance, the far left is obsessed with victimhood and is willing to use force to convince others to comply with their ideas of compassion. The far right, as I understand it, has fixated on their perceived superiority of the west generally and the caucasion race specifically, and completely missed the values that undergird western civilization: liberty, equality, justice, and above all, a focus on the individual rather than the collective.

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With all due respect I'm going to skip to the last sentence. Not many understand the far left including those on the left. If it makes you feel good, if it looks good from a distance, if you think you deserve it, if you think "they" should pay for it, if you are a victim of the system, lack of self awareness, ignoring facts... those are thoughts and characteristics more associated with the left. None of which I detected in your post. Besides that it sux to be where you are in life. I've been there a few times all by my own doing or rather undoing. The best thing about being at rock bottom is that there is only one direction to go from there... up and out. Good luck.

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To say your nothing and no one is a insult to all the universes that got together and created you! You are indeed special in every way and remove this nothing and no one from your head. Do you know why your soul is spelled with a U? because it belongs to you and you alone, no one in the entire universe and all the universes beyond is made just like you so you are someone, and something very special and never take anything less. Take it from a guy that been close to death a few times...........(=

Ooh, you mean you've seen the other side? A while ago I was obsessed with watching stories on near death experiences on youtube and thinking that if only I could have a near death experience I could get answers to life and what I should/need to do with myself....I thought if I just had answers everything would be alright, but I wasn't going anywhere whilst sitting around waiting for signs...

@MWhite Well to say I seen the other side I would be telling a lie, but when you go thru such a event your mind makes changes in how you see things. It seems like a balance of thought came to be that made me think outside the box if you will. For one thing I don't visit graves of love one's anymore for the reason their not in that spot but left when the body died and now reside on a planet some call Heaven, we don't know. The universe waist nothing so we go on, every single thing on this earth has a soul from a elephant to the smallest bug so they will go on also. I think the movie that came the closest was Avatar minus the war that took place. We will see from all worlds people and creatures we could never dream of and share stories with folk that lived in a total different universe. And yes you can't wait around expecting something to happen but can change the way we think and that sometimes puts you on the right road......................

@Mortaqai the thought of reading the bible is very daunting to me, I did attempt many years ago but didn't get far, I plan to watch Jordan Peterson's biblical series, I watched the first and second but want to start over and watch them all in one day....

@Mortaqai You do know the bible has be rewritten more than a few times by man. Anything man touches turns to crap so I listen to that God given voice in your mind to lead me thru. So far so good, but if it's the voice of the demon you have to be very careful and walk softly.

@Mortaqai I can't listen, pay attention and clean, though I could possibly listen and walk without a problem but I have a better chance of paying attention if I sit and listen...

@MWhite Anytime any place is always a good time to listen. You don't have to be in a church, house ,car, or whatever. When you have the time sit back and take notice your never alone although sometimes it feels that way. I suffer from clinical depression that I had sense 10 or 12 y/o , a monster that takes away everything you love, hate, memories, people, family. It's a attack on your own lil universe your brain, a very scary thing when you go thru it. I expect no one to understand unless they been thru it themselves. It came down from my great grandfather to his child, my grandmother, to my mother, then me. I always think of a silver lining with most everything and so I did with depression. When in a deep depression you mind is void of a lot of things that distract you normally and if you understand what's going on with yourself gives you a chance to free think for even just awhile. I took these times as a blessing and sometimes would write them down to exam later when I was feeling better. With the right doctors, meds, and love from my family I'm doing fairly well to date. I never leave my guard down on this illness for the reason it can attack you over and over again without warning. Each day I feel well is a blessing and enjoy it to the limit. I always been crazy but it keeps me from going insane!! lmfao.

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Take the time to see the real you. Smell the fresh air it will become so new with every fresh breath you take. Writing is a wonderful way to move on to the next step in your life never set the goal's to high thay can only be reached by baby steps you will fail and bring yourself down again. The Star's are great but the path to get there is just as great and memories to hold dear.
A suggestion put a line down the middle of a piece of paper one side is what you love about yourself the other is what you (not other's, we don't care about other's opinion) think you need work on to better your life. Make a second copy of what you love about you, hang it or put where you will see it first every morning, the subconscious mind is alway's working positive attitude building about yourself is great! And pick 1 think you dislike to work on a month. While reinforcing the thing's you love everyday.
BEST OF LUCK!!
And I'm positive if you need any help or a talk someone here is more then will to be there I know i am without hesitation!

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Wow, kudos on the vulnerability. I'm excited for your awakening. Embracing that you're nobody is liberating! Now, you can dispense with all of the annoying somebody/superficiality obstacles and deal with real issues in real ways--personal or more social. I'm nobody too! And, not only is that okay, it's preferable. Hey, the others don't notice when we screw up, haha.

MWhite, we're all about 8 bucks worth of dirt and water trying to figure stuff out. You're no different. The cool thing is we're not nobody together. We're us. And, that has some value. I'm glad you're here. I see you.

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Howdy MWhite,

Don't feel like the Lone Ranger about being a "nobody." I don't think anybody in this forum invented the light bulb or landed on the moon. Instead, we do the right things as God gives us the light to see what is right (paraphrasing here). What you're saying sounds like the basis for some good conversations.

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Politics is the least of your concerns. Of course we don't know you at all but based solely upon the way you describe your life in this short post probably the best thing you can do for yourself is to get some help with professional counseling. With genuine concern for you I would refer you to one of J Petersons basic rules for life. Clean your room. The meaning behind this little axiom is simple. If your own life is disordered/chaotic then trying to solve the worlds problems is not a good place for you to focus your time and energy. I wish you the very best as I encourage you to consult with a professional counselor.

I have been seeing a professional and I am reading 12 Rules ?

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Right now, forget about right and left, worry about you. Clean your room! Take JPs course on self discovery. Get any kind of job and do it really well. If you are at all spiritual, find a church; find God and a community. You are doing great. Keep it up. You sound like a really decent person and that bodes really well for your future.

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I can relate to some of your life transition, although different contexts. You're not alone.Sending you love and strength!

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It is all about money in the end! If you earn sufficient money to live well and develop a stable base then the emotional side will drop into place.

this is absolutely false. money can not and will not resolve your emotional problems. there are plenty of people who "have money" and are emotionally unstable to put it mildly.

What?? You've never known unhappy, unfulfilled, dysfunctional rich people!

@acadian It is the act of making money that contains the magic. Merely having the money does nothing.

@richardwrites Only if you are making money doing something you enjoy.

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Congratulations on taking a difficult first step to get your life in order. Consider joining the Group, Jordan Peterson Fans. Anyway, we're all trying to figure things out. Wishing you a meaningful journey. Cheers.

Thanks....I have joined that group ?

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