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In a nation torn by conflict by the extremes, the United States needs a push toward moderacy. Collaboration is needed and the extremes seem to lack that ability or desire.

Actually, I'm guessing that many in the extremes that would tear apart this nation would call me, and others like me, "weak" or "lazy."

They couldn't be more wrong. Finding ways for all to get some of what they need rather than one group gets all and the other group gets none is hard work. Finding common ground in conflict takes requires more effort. It requires diplomacy and wisdom.

Extremism takes rigidity. It's easy to be closed minded. No?

ObiRonMoldy 7 Apr 14
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America has always been a country of extremest. Aaron Burr shot a rivel for a disrespectful comment about his wife.

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Who are the extremists on the right? The Nazis ? The White Supremacists? The KKK? Those groups are all but irrelevant. They have no political power, they have no media clout, they have no impact on the national conversation in any meaningful way. The democrats have moved their party so far away from the main stream of American culture that anyone who is not an open borders socialist is seen as a Nazi. The establishment republicans have given lip service to conservative ideals then once elected have largely behaved as big government leftists until the next election cycle. Any "push toward moderacy" would only be another shuffle to the left, which our government has been doing for decades.

@ObiRonMoldy Really? How much influence do you think the Alt Right has? Show us their massive media presence. Same with the tea party. Go ahead and describe Nancy Pelosis' fever dream to us.

@ObiRonMoldy So Breitbart is the alt-right? Anybody else? It's good to know that Breitbart is an extremist Nazi affiliated organization. It's even more interesting that Breitbart has clout that is equivalent to all the leftist media organizations. Thank you for enlightening me. BTW what happened to the Tea Party you mentioned earlier? Can't find any examples of influence outside of leftist rants.
For your edification in case there is some confusion on the matter; A definition: Alt-right

The alt-right, or alternative right, is a loosely-connected and somewhat ill-defined grouping of white supremacists/white nationalists, neo-Nazis, neo-fascists, neo-Confederates and other far-right fringe hate groups.

Sound like Breitbart and the Tea Party to you? If so, I think we're done here.

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I think the media must be legally responsible for what they report. They have become rags that print gossip and innuendo rather than fact. If they were fined and libel suits were able to get through the courts without millions of dollars being spent, then the general public would become much more united by hearing the truth.

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Trust me...common ground is already here...

@ObiRonMoldy you see, these particular medial outlets that permeate presently are those that have been around for many, many decades. With the advent of clever scripting languages and systems...we now have better, greater informed sources of information. These cable outlets are owned by those whose agenda is to bring harm to our country because their Marionette lost the election. They can no longer hide their very nefarious plans and they are no longer trying precisely because they have lost the flow of information...they are losing control over the minds of the people and their decades long Indoctrination and Disconnection is backfiring. You must tear yourself away from all of those indoctrination centers and learn real truth and facts from REAL sources. Here is a list of sources that I fancy and from here, you will be able to make better sense of the games being played on all of us. But understand, we have all been indoctrinated and it won't be easy to accept...in fact, some things that you learn are real, can be disturbing which is what you need. Truth and facts will bring your reasoning and clear thinking abilities back and this is very important for your transformation into an enlightened individual. Your task will soon be very clear to you and your hope will expand by many, many fold. I will compile a fresh list and provide this to you. Give me a few days.

@ObiRonMoldy Then good...you have given yourself more Hope.

@KebblerFox OANN & listening to speeches of candidates/politicians is my preferred source of news.

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You also realize that a moderate is attacked by both sides, since to their perspective, the moderate is both to the left and the right, depending on the persons POV. This means they are in neither camp, so they are an outcast with no 'tribe' to call home, and then are labeled with tags like loser, freak, weirdo, etc. Luckily, most people fall into this diverse category, they just don't feel the need to band together to support common sense. That's my take on it at least...

@ObiRonMoldy You are correct in the media and in government, there are the loudest voices coming from the far right and left, and unfortunately these are the ones that seem to be leading the conversations. Moderates are typically not fanatics about anything, so their logic to most isn't near as engaging as emotional tirade. I still believe that people in normal day to day interaction are way more level headed and reasonable that what you see online and on the TV. But normal doesn't pull the ratings...

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Did you ever read the book, “Great Moderates In History?”

Neither has anyone else.
I get your point, but sometimes standing for something and being willing to defend it, even fight for it, is considered extreme.

I agree to stand and if necessary fight. But the ends justifying the means is what has brought the DNC to its perverse ends. Extremes of people with ethics and a stable moral code can move mountains. People who lie and cheat for the 'greater good' are poison. You don't get apples by planting watermelon seeds.

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What I hear in your post is a call to being reasonable, however you framed it in a paradigm of lose/lose and call that preferable to a win/lose or lose/win scenario. This might be distasteful to both sides and to the hopeful person who wants the win/win.

I personally would like reason to win the day but I am one of those crazy hopeful people 🙂

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The problem with America is not that it’s too extreme; it’s too fucking moderate.

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I can not really relate to where you come from with the idea of the extreme ends of both spectrum. A handful are truly extreme have alway's been admittedly so. And if you have done any reseach on the subject you would thise screaming the loudest are payed, portester, false hate crimes over 500 to date, and emotional over a hate, don't wish conservative speakers on college campuses ( tought no better to except all) and more. I am not a Republican or other. I am a individual American i act and vote as one band wagon jumping and stirring the pot to do so it a bigger problem the extreme views on anything majority of people who make a fuss do for attion of some kind not a cause the believe something you believe in do without making notice of.

@ObiRonMoldy i didn't ask anyone to believe me or not. And hate false hate crimes are reported in the news offeten. You can do your own research i have nothing to prove. ANTIFA started out of the USA and is funded. As well as everything else i stateded above. Justice K. Protesters funded. And more. The point your missing is it's not the masses causing and creating this so called hate invorment it the powerful. With money mulipulatation fear and greed.

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I am not close-minded, but I will not relent, or talk, or rationalize, or make excuses for Blatant TREASON! The Democratic Communist openly denounce the Constitution, have tried for 2 years to smear, lie and find any scintilla of evidence or manufacture it to depose a legally elected President! THen the deep state FBI and Justice and CIA went so far as to try a subliminal Coup d Etat, they want to flood the country with illegal foreign Nationals just to stack the deck of power in their favor! And totally ignore their jobs,and wishes of the American taxpayer and citizen and cast aspersions and innuendo on all them who won't join their socialist utopian idealist tunnel vision lie! I want their treasonous asses punished!I want the Democratic party outlawed forever! This is the second time these motha fuckers have brought the country to WAR with their own brothers....well their not my brother anymore FUVK THEM!

@ObiRonMoldy ever thought that Trump has a sweet sense of humor , uses irony and sarcasm and half the population doesn’t get it ? ! I find his verbal games entertaining and his business like approaches in running the government IS a Necessary evil we are bleeding out in every direction. The democratic idiocy and welfare state approach of solving problems needs to cease

@ObiRonMoldy I'm going to tell you a few things about YOU!I have never met you! Your not a Veteran,your a Democrat or progressive pacifist multiculturalist socialist lackey! You think Reparation are appropriate,and God is an abstract concept.,Your Naive and ignorant about the world reality and human nature! You optimize the White conformist that thinks the Patriarchy assertions and white Privilege are also valid!You are a traitor to the constitution and this Republic and, being from San Francisco says it all,with your feces lined streets and needle ladened parks and sidewalks!You should be ashamed to call yourself a man let alone an American! And ,you are right, wear you should be in that cesspool called California! We may meet someday.....if there's a Civil War or large civil conflagration! And if we do...you will learn what the real meaning of TRAITOR means and experience the consequences of your idiot perspective of life!

@ObiRonMoldy I don't respond to leftist trolls who espouse fiction! Muller report is in no collision but to moronic Californians who dwell in lala land, it's not enough! Well it's not enough for me to reiterate that you are a socialist troll that can go F yourself and your bullshit rationalization of the world in general! Remember what I said traitor that holds true and I hope to come to fruition because NO stone will be left unturned finding you Saul Alinsky minions!F off!

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I used to agree to this line of thinking but eventually came under the impression that our rights will get stripped one moderate step at a time. I am for moderate steps in the right direction. Such as slowly getting rid of excessive social safety nets. Slowly pulling our military out of everywhere without causing a massive disruption. Things of that nature.

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I agree. We have to find the Golden Mean in every issue so what is it in the issue of illegal immigration - a subject that deeply divides your country. It makes common sense to secure your borders. Are people upset with the idea of it or with the methods that have been and are being used to do so? Is the position of the left just to let everyone in?

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It's becoming increasing difficult to find common ground when a large amount of people are viewing compromise as a loss.

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