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The Mueller report is out. Woohoo. Can't wait to see if any of the Democrat/MSM responses surprise me. I'm guessing no.

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No is a safe assumption. MUELLER is no longer a hero. Barr is a crook that is hiding things, and congress will have several continuing investigations to get to the bottom of it. By the way, no need to ask anymore questions about how the investigation was started, it's legitimacy, or look into any of the upstanding, hard working Obama administration officials who were just trying to save the country from this monster. Did that cover it?

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Since NO ONE wants to talk to Mueller (sp?) But make claims about what he meant, I will just assume even they know there is nothing.

There's a good chance he has no interest in speaking to them. He completely side stepped the obstruction issue to avoid being burned.

@CodeNameZebra If it was useful I believe they would issue a subpoena.

bottom of page 12
Taking into account that information and our analysis of applicable statutory and constitutional principles (discussed below in Volume II, Section III, infra), we determined that there was a sufficient factual and legal basis to further investigate potential obstruction-of -justice issues involving the President.

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Their responses I'm sure would be the typical ones we often receive from them...

It shows Trump is not fit for the office of the presidency of the United States.

@DuranDuran Which part?

@DuranDuran What are you talking about?

@SpikeTalon The Mueller report shows Trump is unfit for the office of the presidency of the United States. There are numerous times his campaign occluded with Russians. just not illegally, and Mueller says there is plenty of evidence on obstruction, to warrent further investigation. Trump is lying through his teeth, when he said he was "exonerated" on both counts, he knew he wasn't, but he said it anyway.

@DuranDuran Whew buddy stop watching TYT for news.

The report stated that several individuals may have interacted with Russian proxies(which unless you're a Gov entity you don't have access to that info)
It concluded that no direct attempt was made by the President or subordinates to collude. Collusion by it's nature is illegal.
Mueller never stated there was obstruction only that it could of been but he was unable to meet the required threshold of evidence to make a strong enough legal arguement to pursue.

You could of made an arguement about the actual handling of the case and how the actions of the President although no obstruction does point to his leadership ability during difficult situations.

Formulate your own arguement not others incorrect talking points.

@DuranDuran CodeNameZebra gave a good reply, I need not have to say anything more. In short, the Mueller Report found no evidence of collusion, the Democrats just cannot give it up. Russian collusion is all in their minds, and they're drug that issue out long enough.

@SpikeTalon The Mueller report found no CRIMINAL collusion
and this is from the bottom of page 12
Taking into account that information and our analysis of applicable statutory and constitutional principles (discussed below in Volume II, Section III, infra), we determined that there was a sufficient factual and legal basis to further investigate potential obstruction-of -justice issues involving the President.

@CodeNameZebra Bottom of page 12.
Taking into account that information and our analysis of applicable statutory and constitutional principles (discussed below in Volume II, Section III, infra), we determined that there was a sufficient factual and legal basis to further investigate potential obstruction-of -justice issues involving the President.
You want to try that again.

@DuranDuran You honestly believe further investigations would turn up anything knowing the first time was a dud?

@DuranDuran did you read that entire section? Or did you cherrypick that one statement out of the section?
I can tell you which one.
That statement was outlining their reasoning of investigating possible obstruction ie the actions. It is not a statement of future investigative actions.
The big part you missed was the conclusion apparently.

Come back with something you didn't copy and paste off Reddit.

@CodeNameZebra I didn't paste off anything, I have my own copy, and you have a serious case of denial.

@SpikeTalon This isn't what a dud looks like
we determined that there was a sufficient factual and legal basis to further investigate potential obstruction-of -justice issues involving the President. If you didn't have anything to begin with you wouldn't want a further investigation.

@CodeNameZebra I have to be careful. A single sentence quote out of a 400 page report is pushing me to a knee jerk support of Trump. Is Duran Duran a plant or is this real anger at Trump?

@DuranDuran can you explain what 'non-illegal collusion' with a a foreign government by our president looks like? That doesn't make sense to me. And Perhaps you could also expand on your certainty of obstruction in the investigation of the made up charges of collusion which did resulted in unequivocal exoneration. Ie. Obstruction in the investigation of nothing.

@DuranDuran How do you know that conclusion is accurate?

@Kindalibertarian It wasn't for lack of trying. Talking to a foriegn gov't to try to get aid, and actually not getting shit. A foriegn gov't participating in your election that you didn't know about. Hanging out with Russians isn't illegal, doesn't look good, but it's not illegal. Unfortunately Trump didn't understand what was going on, and did everything he could think of to obstruct a investigation, he would have been way better off, letting it run it's course.

@DuranDuran well, I have to disagree again. Trump is the only President who has not exerted executive privilege to a special prosecutor to prevent those close to him from testifying. He Exempted no documents from review. He had full Authority to shut down the investigation if he wanted. None of those things point to him doing everything he can 2 obstruct the investigation. Concerning Russian interference in our election, I have to point out that this occurred under the Obama Administration when he had full control of the FBI NSA and the entire intelligence apparatus. As far as letting the investigation take its course, did we not just get a 400-page document concluding a two-year investigation that found zero criminal activity? I would say that the investigation ran its full course.

@Kindalibertarian Obama put sanctions on Russia for interfereing in our election. If there was 0 criminal activity why are all those people either in jail or on their way. No president in our history has had so many people who at some point in time were part of his inner circle,with 8 pleading guilty amost immediately go to jail in the first 2 years of their administration. No president in our history has had so many people protesting against him, before he was even in office. No president in our history has ever caused world wide protests like Trump did.

@DuranDuran I thought we were talking about Trump. You now seem to be pivoting to other people who were charged with completely unrelated crimes. Protestors? I really couldn't care less about Protestors. 2 things, the right doesn't really protest much, and certainly not like the ignorant left. Mostly young people who have been brainwashed their entire lives by the educational system and the dishonest media. Most can't even articulate with any coherence why they are even there. They are ignorant sheep. So, Protestors and others committing crimes doesn't address what we were talking about. I assume I have persuaded you to back off of the statement that Trump 'did everything he could to obstruct the investigation'? That just isn't so. By the way, I don't like Trump as a person. He's not a good person. So I would suppose by that standard we could have selected Hillary, because she is such a wonderful human being.

@Kindalibertarian You believe a man that everybody knows was a lying crook long before he got to the Whitehouse, who admitted to Leslie Stalh that the whole "fake news" thing was so people would believe him over the truth on negative stories. Paid 25 million dollar settlement just before he took office to keep from going on trial for federal fraud charges. The same man that said on 9/11 there were thousands of muslims in N.J. cheering, in addition to swearing up and down that Obama wasn't a US citizen. Also recorded bragging about grabbing women by the pussy. Paid 2 women hush money so his wife didn't know he cheated on her, which actually didn't work. Now you want me to believe this known lying crook over respected news media that has been on the air since 1980. If "fake news" was real, he appointed the chairman of the FCC last Jan., and could very easily take CNN off the air or fine the shit out of them, and yet he does nothing. The only "fake news" comes from the Whitehouse.

@DuranDuran nope. You should read my posts a little closer. I believe a 2 year investigation by people who would have loved nothing more in life than to take him down, but turned up no criminal charges against him. I've also listed many additional things he could have done to obstruct the investigation, but did not. So you can keep shifting the arguments until I agree with you, but again, the original post was about collusion and obstruction. So to be as clear as possible, I do not think he is a good person. Anyone that does is delusional. But I would pull the lever for him again if my alternative was someone with far left policies that I believe are very harmful to the country.

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