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I've gotten a lot of backlash for the truths I have said about Trump. The one thing I get the most, is all politicians lie. They lie because we let them, they do crooked shit because we let them.
Don't you think it's time for us to NOT let these assholes do whatever they want, on our tax dollars. There's no employer in this country that would let these people do what we allow them to do. They would be gone by lunchtime. We pay their wages, and we don't hold them to any standard, of any kind, like private businesses hold their employees too.

DuranDuran 6 Apr 22
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I agree with one nit-pick. Exaggeration is not lying - the underlying premise is true just not to the extent the speaker has taken it.

I think picking on Trump is a bit like lighting a candle in a burning cathedral. Trumps "lies" are "fishing stories" - yes I caught a fish and no it was not as large as I said. Who cares?

Some of the lies from others are blatant misrepresentations or even complete fabrication. Consider Lieu's misrepresentation of Candace Owens or Nadler's shrug to her. I think elected officials who "lie" are guilty of treason. and should be shot. Boy, wouldn't that change things?

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I've looked at your past posts and I don't think you're being principled here. You seem to only care about Trump's lies. If you're going to take a stand on principle but, you only apply it only to those you dislike, that's not a principled stand, it's hypocrisy.

I'm willing to discuss specific lies because this stuff is a matter of degree. For instance, if Trump exaggerates to make a point or to brag, I don't think it's near as harmful as "If you like your doctor, you can keep your doctor."

I'm also not certain that a moral man makes a good president. As a man, I'd say Jimmy Carter was the most moral president in my lifetime. He still sucked as president.

His lies are just where I started. He has no respect for anybody or anything, and he treats people like shit, and he is a serious bully.

@DuranDuran opinion

@bil2276 Yes my opinion. He asked me if trump's lies are all I'm interested in, and I showed what else I was interested in. So until I start to back them up they are just my opinion.

@DuranDuran So your post amounts to another "Trump bad" comment. That's your opinion and you're free to have it. I could just as easily say that everyone else in Washington has been a LOT worse. I don't care how mean he is. I don't care that he exaggerates and brags. I do care that he has done more to make this country better in the last 2 years than the previous 2 administrations did in 16 years.

@MickeyRat He makes it look good, but he hasn't done shit, he just makes it look that way.

@DuranDuran @cRaZyTMG has already done a pretty good job detailing a lot of his accomplishments. I won't try to compete. I'll add that so far, he's kept us out of foreign entanglements. He hasn't toppled any governments that at least, weren't our enemies and had those countries become our enemies or descend into chaos. Bush and Obama have Iraq, Egypt and Libya to brag about there.

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He who is without sin cast the first stone. We all lie. We fib to make ourselves look/sound better, not to hurt someone feelings, to avoid conflict or because its none of their business. Regardless of the reasons, if you don't like him vote him out in 2020 thats if the Dems can come up with a decent contender. I don't always agree with him but I have to give Trump credit, he is keeping his campaign promises and Making America Great Again. It would be nice if our representatives accomplished half of what he has so far in his term and stop squandering our tax dollars on witch hunts!

All those people ging to jail was nothing?

Who went to jail?

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Trump can fling his turds at people as far as I'm concerned.

  1. Economic Results - Check ! Pick any metric
  2. Trustworthy - Check ! The world reacts when Trump says he may do something
  3. Hardworking - Check ! Does the man ever sleep?
  4. Intelligent - Check ! Just watch him play his opposition. He just lets them make his points for him.
  5. Fearless - Check ! Takes on China, N.Korea, EU, NATO, UN and wins.
  6. Transparent - Check ! No executive privilege during the Mueller Affair
  7. Honest - Check ! Called out Fake News
  8. Entertaining - Check ! [en.wikipedia.org]

Trump is an enema for our constipated world.

Your last line 🙂
Higher praise hath no man.

He isn't one step closer to settling with kin jing un that he was at day one.

@DuranDuran "Kim" hasn't fired any missiles at Air Force One since "the talks". and it didn't take any dead americans to achieve it. Sounds like a win to me.

@DuranDuran but he also didn't give him the ability to build nukes like Bill Clinton, and then do nothing about it like Bush and Obama.

@cRaZyTMG He wasn't firing missiles at air force one before the talks. He is still test firing missiles

@DuranDuran A NK missile was fired at AF1. The story was going to be it originated from N.Korea - it didn't. The US Military shut down a site located on the peninsula and NK & SK started economic cooperation talks.

I believe it was an attempt to Take trump out and provide FF reason to go to war OR simply provide a unarguable reasoned FF reason to go to war - (they knew the attempt would fail). Trump (not him personally) revealed this and the people actually behind it to NK & SK and how "they" were using the site as a safe location to ferment support for more US military aggression in the region. Given KJU saw the actual perpetrators (key word - traitors) as the US government, Trump's revelation of their true allegiance and his intent to crush them, he was placated (for the moment).
As long as the swamp draining continues, the status quo will hold. Russia and China are fully aware of this hence no external pressures are being applied.

The revolution is not being televised. There is evidence (fairly well obfuscated) of the missile launch and site closure along with the almost immediate reversal of KJU threats. The second paragraph is mostly me connecting dots (as a corollary to Judge Judy - if it makes sense, it's probably true)

But no dead Americans - at least not real ones (wink, wink)

@cRaZyTMG You really believe that shit?

@DuranDuran How do you know it is shit? Do you believe in God? How about flat earth? Climate Change? Flying Spaghetti Monster?

For future reference I always speak my truth and I find your questioning of my ability to think offensive.

Now I've got to go into my safe space and color some unicorns.

What US politician with strong connections to NK died of natural causes round about the same time? or did he?

@cRaZyTMG Because nobody is going to shoot anything at air force 1 without being destroyed by the fighters that fly with it, and the awac's. No, No, Yes, No.
Not a clue

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You sound like many people I have met, not happy about the direction things are going, but do not have a viable alternative that others would follow. Unfortunately most of us kinda sorta don't really want change unless it's the change they want. Got any clear concise ideas for a different direction?

a few, don't have time now, and it's going to take a minute, I have a lot to say. Get back to you

@DuranDuran If I may suggest, be as brief as possible for two reasons, people are more likely to read it, and two, if it's good anyone should be able to understand it. Look forward to hearing back.

@ScottforKing Condensed version, Ok
As long as the same type of people are the only one's running for office, and as long as they think that they have to raise and spend ridiculous sums of money, and as long as they think the only place to get ridiculous sums of money is big business, nothing is going to change, not really
The avg congressman spends 1.8 million on their campaign. I looked up my congressman, and it works out to about 10 bucks a vote. The avg district is around 700,000 people, and my congressman got about 165,000 votes. 1.8 million dollars for 165,000 votes is the dumbest thing I've ever heard.
They live off our tax dollars, but they don't answer to us, because it wasn't our money that got them elected. I don't think it has to be that way.

@ScottforKing The problem with congress isn't term limits, it's the term. 2 years isn't long enough, they never quit campaigning, in the back of their head they're always thinking about how this is going to look at the next election, while doing nothing won't necessarily make you lose the next election, doing the wrong thing can do it in a heartbeat.We need to make congress like the president, 4 years, give the person time to do things without worrying about the next election. Not to mention saving 3.2 million a district, for only having 1 election every 4 years not 2.

@DuranDuran My fundamental problem with the political class today is that they appear to not have any long term goal, so no purpose behind their aims or actions, they appear to be aimless. This is not a good place to be because it allows anyone else who talk like they do have purpose - the leftists for instance - to take the spot light for themselves and talk about how bad things are and how only they can make it good again. Unfortunately it hasn't turned out that way and now we have the political class spending most of their time fundraising for the next election which should be every four years.

@ScottforKing Like I said, 2 years isn't long enough. On top of worrying about the next election, I think there is a why bother thing going on, if I put it outthere and don't get relected it's not going anywhere, the next guy isn't going to do anything with it.
Like it or not, we have got to take a more active role in politics. We have left politics to the politicians for far too long. Which is a part of my campaign finances idea, if you don't have to raise ridiculous sums of money, maybe people who can actually do the job will run.

@ScottforKing Now we have financing and term worked out, it's time to work on the rules.Allowing one person to stop the vote on a bill is ridiculous, so is hanging unrelated crap off the back of a bill.
The idea was for everybody to get together and come up with solutions for problems that help everybody. You give a little bit, he gives a little bit, I give a little bit, and everybody gets something. It's called compromise. It wasn't supposed to be a career, everybody takes turn and goes back home. This country's founding documents were written 250 yr.s ago, and they need some rewriting, there was no way to tell 250 years ago how things would be today. Prpblem is passing or repealing a amendment is very hard to do. A simple majority won't do, it has to be a 2/3 majority in both houses and then it has to be ratified by 38 states.

@ScottforKing The defense budget is way to big, and the education budget is way to small. More attention needs to be put on the long term over getting thru the fiscal year. Paying off debt needs to start now, instead of just adding more debt.
Wall st. and religion need to pay their fair share, and there needs to be some type of salary cap needs to happen for the top suits on wall st.

@DuranDuran I can read the frustration in your writing, I think that it comes from the same place that mine does, trying to make some sense of what is going on these days. So far after many years of thinking and reading, the best sense I can make is, it does make sense as long as one is focused on the very short term, a.k.a. crisis management with a political smile. There does not seem to be much long term thinking, as evidenced by the ever expanding debt everywhere. Borrowing from our unborn children so we can enjoy an entitled lifestyle is not good long term thinking, unless your aim is to create a population of slaves.

@ScottforKing Over 320 million, to 537. Why are we allowing 537 people tell us how to live.

@DuranDuran Answer maybe: because we are too lazy and ignorant to do it for ourselves?

@ScottforKing Can't really argue with that. We've got to do something, 4 more years of Trump and my head will explode.

@DuranDuran It is my humble opinion that Trump does not hold to the Constitution as he might, although he is better than most of the Democrats. If we want freedom and liberty that has been granted in the Constitution we have to learn again how we have to earn it each and every day and not expect someone else to give it to us. Just say'n.

@ScottforKing Not arguing, we have to get along with the rest of the people on this planet for a multitude of reasons, ain't gonna happen with Trump. Nobody is going to take his bullshit and I don't blame them. If you don'tb like the person, you still need to respect the office.

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What exactly is the truth about Trump? Where did you come across this "truth"? CNN?Fox?MSNBC? Let me guess....NY Times.....What truth are you privy to that the great unwashed masses know not? Enlighten us O' great singer of hungry like the wolf....

Everybody knows Trump was a lying crook long before he ran for president.

@DuranDuran Oh...everybody knows he's a crook...sorry.... lying crook. And what has he done exactly that was illegal?

@Boardwine You're kidding right?

@Boardwine They made him shut his foundation down because of all the crooked shit he was doing
Just before he took office, he paid 25 million dollar settlement to keepfrom going on trial for fed fraud charges over his bullshit Trump U.
Making hush money payments so his wife wouldn't find out he cheated on her, Didn't work to well though.

@DuranDuran the foundation was shut down because of prosecutorial overreach on behalf of the crazed mob of the left. I've no doubt that had anything criminal taken place charges would have been filed.WHICH THEY WERE NOT.Trump U was a failure for sure. And possibly misleading. But it was a CLASS ACTION LAWSUIT very very different than "federal fraud charges" WHICH NEVER HAPPENED . Please check your facts before claiming some sort of moral superiority. As for hush payments.....he's a whoremonger and a cad. Immoral without a doubt but again I ask you "what has he done exactly that was illegal?" You've offered nothing to answer this question except MSNBC talking points.

@Boardwine And you will come up with a excuse for all the shitty and crooked shit he does

@DuranDuran I’ve come up with no excuses. I merely ask for examples of criminality. Which you’ve been unable to produce. All you’ve done is regurgitate leftist talking points. Which I find tiresome, boring and insufficient to explain your contempt. Why don’t you just admit that you simply hate Trump? I don’t care. You’re free to hate whom you choose. What you are not free to do is claim secret knowledge or actual fact that you do not possess.

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Trump supporters don't mind because he's THEIR liar.

How sad

@EdNason So you don't care Trump has no integrity

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I have to tune out most of the lying claims. I start checking in and it's some idiotic thing about "these hamburgers are nowhere near a mile high." It's difficult to wade through he mass of attacks when the media goes full tilt on simple hyperbole, they still go insane over "Mexico will pay for it!"
I had to leave FB because I was having to defend someone I did not like and did not vote for from idiotic attacks.

He knew from day 1 there was no way in hell Mecico was going to pay for a wall we don'tneed and can't afford.

@DuranDuran Yeah, it was my example of hyperbole. No one thought Mexico would go writing a check. I don't like it but it seems to be a way for Trump to gauge public sentiment on issues. The mode of speech was a part of the reason I didn't vote for him, I just don't like it.
I did not believe we needed a wall, normal ICE activities would keep the situation manageable. However, the current group of Democrats crying for the elimination of terrorist ICE, etc all convinced me we needed the wall.

@EdNason You used "Very simple" and "both parties could get their heads out of their asses" in the same sentence. I'm overcome with unbridled glee at the very concept, kind of like when children are studiously cleaning a room and the unicorn fart gently blows across.

@Penrodster
Your mention of Mexico paying for the Wall was a good example.
The Left takes him literally when it suits them.

As for Mexico paying for the Wall... He meant that the money he would save from a new trade deal plus the tariffs would pay for the wall. I'm pretty sure most people knew that.
But even the trade deal plus the tariffs actually paying for the wall... that's some pretty big exaggeration as well.
And of course with the current inundation of immigrants across the border... we aren't saving any money at all.

But one way that "Mexico" could help pay for the wall is the El Chapo bill. The US government seized about 14 billion dollars of the drug lord's assets. It has been proposed to use this money to build a Wall. I don't know what happened to the bill... but it seemed almost poetic justice. El Chapo grew filthy rich peddling his filth in the US... to use his ill gotten gains to make it harder to deal drugs... win / win.

@EdNason I know but that was still a delicious sentence.
"Honey, it's the government. They're here to help us." Certain concepts stated out loud just make the day brighter.

@EdNason, @An_Ominous My take was controlling immigration pays for it overall, though I think he was forced into getting physical checks.

@Penrodster I like your take!
Controlling immigration could produce some serious savings. And it's an ongoing cost whereas the biggest cost of the wall is the initial outlay. There are ongoing costs of maintenance and surveillance... but I have no doubt that those costs pale in comparison to the expense of having an open border.

@An_Ominous There is an ongoing pervasive cost in dollars I also think there is a loss of 'identity' I guess. Still struggling with concepts and how to form the thoughts.

@Penrodster Not buying the bullshit, Trump's not that smart, and that's a really dumb idea.

@DuranDuran I don't believe I bullshitted and don't know which if my dumd ideas you are referring to.

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As long as we have a system setup that makes people believe they only have two political parties to choose from, I have a feeling nothing will change.

The problem is the parties themselves.....well actually the problem is the ignorance of the populace but let's try to deal with small problems first ?

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