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The IRS and federal reserve act of 1913 are illegal. 2/3 of the states never ratified these amendments. Which makes them illegal.
For the life of me I could never understand how an American could stick up for 2 agencies whose sole purpose is to steal from you and keep you poor.
Please enlighten me those of you who actually believe in these fuckery. If you love it so much donate all your money to the crooks. Me I don't buy your shit and don't have to participate in something illegal.
If you do believe in it. Well there is no hope for you. You are someone who won't or can't think objectively on this matter. You have been trained to acceot theft.

Kheare 7 Aug 20
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“When the rich rob the poor, its called business. When the poor fight back, its called violence.” - Mark Twain

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By the way, you should never underestimate peoples desire for comfort and security, more often than not it trumps over hard work and responsibility that would be demanded for independence or semi-independence. Most would rather outsource that to someone else. That is why everyone who is independent thinker should be against democracy or republics.

Democracy is generally defined as a form of government in which all adult citizens have an equal say in the decisions that affect their lives.IDEALLY, this includes equal (and more or less direct) participation in the proposal, development and passage of legislation into law. It can also encompass social, economic and cultural conditions that enable the free and equal practice of political self-determination.

Criticism of democracy: Economists since Milton Friedman have strongly criticized the efficiency of democracy. They base this on their premise of the irrational voter. Their argument is that voters are highly uninformed about many political issues, especially relating to economics, and have a strong bias about the few issues on which they are fairly knowledgeable.

“Democracy arose from men's thinking that if they are equal in any respect, they are equal absolutely.” ― Aristotle

“The aspirations of democracy are based on the notion of an informed citizenry, capable of making wise decisions. The choices we are asked to make become increasingly complex. They require the longer-term thinking and greater tolerance for ambiguity that science fosters. The new economy is predicated on a continuous pipeline of scientific and technological innovation. It can not exist without workers and consumers who are mathematically and scientifically literate. ” ― Ann Druyan

Because men are in a group,
and therefore weakened,
receptive, and in a state of
psychological regression, they
pretend all the more to be
"strong individuals." The mass
man is clearly sub-human, but
pretends to be superhuman. He
is more suggestible, but insists
he is more forceful; he is more
unstable, but thinks he is firm
in his convictions ...
Democracy is based on the
concept that man is rational and
capable of seeing clearly what
is in his own interest, but the
study of public opinion suggests
this is a highly doubtful proposition.

JACQUES ELLUL, Propaganda

“A democracy cannot exist as a permanent form of government. It can only exist until the voters discover that they can vote themselves largesse ( willingness to give money, or money given to poor people by rich people) from the public treasury. From that moment on, the majority always votes for the candidates promising the most benefits from the public treasury with the result that a democracy always collapses over loose fiscal policy, always followed by a dictatorship. The average age of the world's greatest civilizations has been about 300 years. These nations have progressed through this sequence: From bondage to spiritual faith; From spiritual faith to great courage; From courage to liberty; From liberty to abundance; From abundance to selfishness; From selfishness to apathy; From apathy to dependence; From dependence back into bondage.” ― Alexander Fraser Tytler

Indeed. Fair point.

“Widespread intellectual and moral docility may be convenient for leaders in the short term, but it is suicidal for nations in the long term.” ― Carl Sagan, Billions & Billions: Thoughts on Life and Death at the Brink of the Millennium

“Anti-intellectualism has been a constant thread winding its way through our political and cultural life, nurtured by the false notion that democracy means that 'my ignorance is just as good as your knowledge.'” ― Isaac Asimov

"The best argument against democracy is a five-minute conversation with the average voter." ― Winston Churchill (British Orator, Author and Prime Minister during World War II. 1874-1965)

“The democracy will cease to exist when you take away from those who are willing to work and give to those who would not.... A democracy is nothing more than mob rule, where fifty-one percent of the people may take away the rights of the other forty-nine.” ― Thomas Jefferson

“A vote is like a rifle; its usefulness depends upon the character of the user.” ― Theodore Roosevelt, the 26th President of the United States of America, from 1901 to 1909

"Remember one thing about democracy. We can have anything we want and at the same time, we always end up with exactly what we deserve." ― Edward Albee

If you want to understand democracy, spend less time in the library with Plato, and more time in the buses with people. ― Simeon Strunsky

A LIBERTARIAN COMMUNIST?! WHAT??

“YOU’RE BEING A SPECIESIST” -Anti-Trump Protester

America was Communist??

INSANE: Anti-Trump Protesters Don’t Hold Back in Los Angeles

HOPEFULLY These People Aren’t Voting!

Spitting facts or no?

CLASSIC: Anti-Trumpers Have No Evidence To Back Up Their Claims #shorts

Well it doesn’t look like Gen Z is gonna save us. They can’t answer basic questions. Not good!

Gen-Z can’t answer the most basic questions! What are they even teaching in school?? #shorts

Gen-Z Can't Answer the Most Basic Questions

That is a lot to unpack lol. I will get back to you on this.

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The government worst than a gang of thieves - The ignominy of compulsory taxes

The legal theorist, abolitionist, and radical individualist Lysander Spooner (1808-1887) applied the same moral principles to the actions of an organization as he did to a single individual. This lead him to make some harsh criticisms of the government as this quotation reveals:

"But this theory of our government is wholly different from the practical fact. The fact is that the government, like a highwayman, says to a man: Your money, or your life. And many, if not most, taxes are paid under the compulsion of that threat.

The government does not, indeed, waylay a man in a lonely place, spring upon him from the road side, and, holding a pistol to his head, proceed to rifle his pockets. But the robbery is none the less a robbery on that account; and it is far more dastardly and shameful.

The highwayman takes solely upon himself the responsibility, danger, and crime of his own act. He does not pretend that he has any rightful claim to your money, or that he intends to use it for your own benefit. He does not pretend to be anything but a robber. He has not acquired impudence enough to profess to be merely a “protector,” and that he takes men’s money against their will, merely to enable him to “protect” those infatuated travellers, who feel perfectly able to protect themselves, or do not appreciate his peculiar system of protection. He is too sensible a man to make such professions as these.

Furthermore, having taken your money, he leaves you, as you wish him to do. He does not persist in following you on the road, against your will; assuming to be your rightful “sovereign,” on account of the “protection” he affords you. He does not keep “protecting” you, by commanding you to bow down and serve him; by requiring you to do this, and forbidding you to do that; by robbing you of more money as often as he finds it for his interest or pleasure to do so; and by branding you as a rebel, a traitor, and an enemy to your country, and shooting you down without mercy, if you dispute his authority, or resist his demands. He is too much of a gentleman to be guilty of such impostures, and insults, and villanies as these. In short, he does not, in addition to robbing you, attempt to make you either his dupe or his slave."

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I think they only baned handful of books in America and one of them was written by Peter Schiff father about not paying taxes. Its an extortion racket. That's a nice constitution you have there, it would be shame if something happened to it. lol

"The law. Nothing is right or wrong! It's either the law or its not the law. Well, we got a problem here, because it's not working anymore. It turns out that right and wrong count."

  • The Star Chamber (1983), Superior Court Judge Steven R. Hardin

Someone has kidnapped justice and hidden it inside the law."

  • The Star Chamber (1983), Judge Benjamin Caulfield

French Poet Paul Valery wrote:

“There are two ways to acquire the necessities of life:

  1. To produce them or
  2. To plunder them.

When plunder becomes a way of life for a group of people living together in society, they create for themselves in the course of time, a legal system that authorizes it and a moral code that glorifies it.”

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So as long as the government has monopoly on violence, in other words more fire power then you, you will be extorted for "protection money" even when its not money, but fake fiat currency.

That being said, if you think about revolution or something, that usually ends up even worse. Besides.

Politics is the conspiracy of the unproductive but organized against the productive but unorganized.
-- Joseph Sobran

Until you can do the impossible and organized people into a well oiled machine, you don't have much of a chance.

“In a society governed passively by free markets and free elections, organized greed always defeats disorganized democracy.” ― Matt Taibbi, Griftopia: Bubble Machines, Vampire Squids, and the Long Con That Is Breaking America

And you don't even have free markets or free elections, you have rigged outcomes.

“What makes anyone think that government officials are even trying to protect us? A government is not analogous to a hired security guard. Governments do not come into existence as social service organizations or as private firms seeking to please consumers in a competitive market. Instead, they are born in conquest and nourished by plunder. They are, in short, well-armed gangs intent on organized crime. Yes, rulers have sometimes come to recognize the prudence of protecting the herd they are milking and even of improving its ‘infrastructure’ until the day they decide to slaughter the young bulls, but the idea that government officials seek to promote my interests or yours is little more than propaganda—unless, of course, you happen to belong to the class of privileged tax eaters who give significant support to the government and therefore receive in return a share of the loot.” ― Robert Higgs

By the way, the people who set up this system owned slaves when they were writing "all men are created equal" and pretended they rebeled because of taxation without representation. How many could vote? And how quickly the United States acted like an empire, Empire of liberty as Jefferson called it, and expanded westwards to take land from Indians and Mexicans.

“Violence, of course, is generally associated with frankly totalitarian forms of anti-political utopianism like Communism, but the Second World War shows that liberal universalists are as capable of violence as Communists. They are just less capable of honesty.” ― Greg Johnson

I really do appriciate how you really hit on points and clear results of people blindly accepting authority and going with whichever one makes them feel more comfortable. Until that comfortable turns into force and tyranny. Then they cry foul.
Interesting conundrum. While I know that's not all you said. I kinda broke it down to process and dig further into the physcology of all this. Sometimes my biggest problem is seeing in black and white. Just wanting the facts and act on that. When in fact the why, and how, is probably more important. Or equally as important.
That's why freedom and liberty eventually die in any society. Once the majority can dictate there doctrine onto the ones who just want to be left alone. They do what is happening now. They lie, deceive, and quietly pass legislation to steal liberty. Then as people wake up and find out. The hammer comes down. Because the programming has already been established.
For instance facemasks. From everything I have read and seen. Face coverings have been used for centuries to isolate you and make you lose your identity. It's why the Muslim faith make woman cover all the way up. They lose there identity and are trained to be servants and slaves. No value.
It's amazing that humans just fall for it. Over and over. We never learn from our past. Makes me wonder if we will ever evolve to be the people we could be.
If all this evil, and desire to own everything and have everything. We're to be put to help mankind. Our world could be so great and everyone could have it good, if they chose to have it.
We will destroy ourselves before we ever reach that plateau.

@Kheare "For instance facemasks. From everything I have read and seen. Face coverings have been used for centuries to isolate you and make you lose your identity. It's why the Muslim faith make woman cover all the way up. They lose there identity and are trained to be servants and slaves. No value.

It's amazing that humans just fall for it. Over and over. We never learn from our past. Makes me wonder if we will ever evolve to be the people we could be.

If all this evil, and desire to own everything and have everything. We're to be put to help mankind. Our world could be so great and everyone could have it good, if they chose to have it.

We will destroy ourselves before we ever reach that plateau."

Let me try to offer an alternative explanation as to why. My explanation is based on my desire to understand, not necessarily agree with it.

It is true that in the case of facemasks, they do not work as protection against virus in any meaningful way, and they were in fact used as symbol of compliance to the regime, during covid tyranny.

Wearing a mask was meant to be degrading, losing identity, sign of compliance to whatever absurdity regime says is "science". it was also meant to divide people and make people easier to control. We know all this because there are many example where actual science, not scientism proves masks are not adequate protection against (SARS-CoV-2) virus and many who mandated them, did not wear them when they though cameras were not recording them. Rules for thy, but not for me.

Among individuals it was a matter of signaling to the regime what camp one belongs to. A compliant drone or thinking individual. Some call supporting whatever regime says is the current thing, a test of compliance.

Why do people do this? It seems to you and me counter intuitive and self harming. So why would so many people support these things so blindly.

It seems to me a thing that we evolved with.

In the past we all lived in small communities, tribes, small villages, maybe small towns etc. If one was a trouble maker or seen as one, one would be kicked out of the tribe/community and in those days that meant it would be hard or impossible to survive on your own. Hence its better to comply and not make any waves, because its a matter of survival.

Same instinct exists today. One is asking too many questions or not complying and he is denied access to resources, positions of power etc. So the instinct for many is same as it was 10 000 years ago. Comply or you get cut off from the protection and resources of the herd.

Women were even more vulnerable to this and more dependent on the herd, so they evolve to be more "agreeable" and are more likley to support whatever the current thing is than men, on average. There are always exceptions, off course.

I SUPPORT THE CURRENT THING!

@Kheare "For instance facemasks. From everything I have read and seen. Face coverings have been used for centuries to isolate you and make you lose your identity. It's why the Muslim faith make woman cover all the way up. They lose there identity and are trained to be servants and slaves. No value."

While I fully agree that in the context of wearing masks for "covid" we were / are dealing with compliance to tyrannical regime and it is about training compliance and forcing collectivization.

In case of Muslim faith, reasons are not that. Weather one agrees with them or not, the reasons are indeed different.

Why do some Muslim women wear burkas?

Most Islamic scholars and most contemporary Islamic jurists have agreed that women are not required to cover their face.] There exist a number of reasons why women may cover their face in public, and this practice must be understood within a particular social context.

MANY Muslim women around the world choose to cover their hair, head and sometimes face.

Covering up is seen as a symbol of modesty and a sign of religious faith - but some countries have banned niqabs, burkas and hijabs.

The Koran calls for both men and women to 'cover and be modest'.

As with many other religious scriptures, the reference to dress is open to interpretation and has been shaped by centuries of cultures in different nations.

"The Koran does not explicitly say you have to cover yourself in this manner," Dr Ismail said.

"Some scholars argue that it is a religious obligation, particularly the more conservative factions within the Muslim world. There are many variations and interpretations."

Dr Ismail is a Muslim and has been wearing her hijab since she was a child.

"I'm so comfortable wearing it that I can't imagine myself without it. I wear it for cultural reasons, but there are many women who wear it for religious reasons."

The term burqa is sometimes conflated with the term niqāb. In more precise usage, the niqab is a face veil that leaves the eyes uncovered, while a burqa covers the entire body from the top of the head to the ground, with a mesh screen which only allows the wearer to see in front of her. The burqa is also not to be confused with the hijab, a garment which covers the hair, neck and all or part of the chest, but does not cover the face.

The wearing of the burqa and other types of face veils have been attested to since pre-Islamic times. Face veiling has not been regarded as a religious requirement by most Islamic scholars, either in the past or the present. A minority of scholars in the Islamic jurisprudence (Fiqh) consider it to be obligatory for Muslim women when they are in the presence of non-related (non-mahram) males in order to prevent men from thinking about women while not obliging men to wear eye-covering. Women may wear the burqa for a number of reasons, including compulsion, as was the case during the Taliban's first rule of Afghanistan

Are some Muslim women forced to wear a burka or niqab?

In Australia Dr Ismail said that the reasons women wear veils of all kinds vary widely and take in influences from culture, fashion as well as religion.

"Some women wear it because they strongly believe it is their religious obligation," she said.

Dr Ismail does concede that some women may be pressured into covering themselves.

"There is a possibility that some husbands would tell their wives 'please wear the niqab, I don't want any other men to see you' which is possessive," she said.

"When it comes to that, the problem is not the niqab, it is being married to someone who is possessive and oppressive."

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