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Anarchy Short:

Anarchy came about in 1600's in contrast to organisation and lent itself to working class as as a way protecting workers - a group of people appealing to utopian ideals of human organisation. At this time it simply means an absence of government as in a state apparatus. Flowing from that it adopts the sentiments of lawlessness is 1830's supposedly with the dawn of individualism - its first attrition being of naive concepts that man act in world as though man is isolated. As response to this naive form of organisation the term socialism came about supporting the contractualists and communitarians heroes of Britain's working "class" there conversations revolve around cooperation and reciprocity. Then came? The Marxism taking revolutionary concepts form the French and Germans derailed the enlightenment, usurping socialism removing any sentiments of imdivalism form the Socialist mindset - attack the work of the contractualists and communitarians, abolishing within its ideological locus property right, inheritance rights, the freedom of expression and right to make one's own lot in life better for oneself all under the notion property is theft, that because not everyone is equally capable any law geared to protecting the individual and their rights therein was oppressive and unfair and that the group should take priority over individuals even at the expense of the the individual's well being and happiness. In effect were either all poor or we're all rich - as the pareto principle demonstrated in any society of distribution creative 80% percent of creative wealth will follow to 20% of the population. It being a law of economics amd a physical law governing the distribution of gas molecules in a vacuum to deny people such means to make there own life better is truly depraved and evil. Even in a moneyless world creative wealth will still flow to 20% of the people - the most successful people.

ChrisODonnell 6 Mar 2
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"Even in a moneyless world creative wealth will still flow to 20% of the people - the most successful people."

Assuming that wealth can be standardized the above could be applied to that standard.

Example:

Wealth as measured scientifically as a stored energy such as can be measured with standard measures of energy: Calories, Joules, Watt/hours, etc. Stored water at higher altitude (gravity forces water through turbines), Petroleum (falsely called "fossil fuels" ) in tanks, Food in bins, Electricity in batteries (or water tanks), etc.

The same standard measure works when applying the principle (accurate measurement of the facts that matter in any case) to devices, such as people who are willing to labor, and machines, such as 3D printing devices that make more 3D printing devices, however the idea of reaching the goal of a standard measure of value in calories in this case would require compromises for non-standard subjective opinions concerning how to arrive at that standard measure, since these forms of stored wealth require stored wealth consumed in the process of producing more stored wealth.

Stored wealth in BANKS of power, such as an elevated tank of water exist naturally (see for example Hover Dam) as well as man-made stores of the same standardized easily proven measure of precise calorie output potential.

Free water until the water tank empties in either case. No more free water until the device is refilled with free water. But again, calories were consumed to refill (or maintain) the stored creative wealth.

"Even in a moneyless world creative wealth will still flow to 20% of the people - the most successful people."

A standard practice among psychopathic (pathological) criminals has been the routine of deceiving innocent people so as to control innocent people, such as for example the often repeated claims of absolute authority of ownership of everything including other people.

How much "creative wealth" flows from producers of anything worth stealing to those pathological criminals over the same time period as the time period described in the original Post above?

1600s to 2020

There are official attempts to quantify "creative wealth" and the flow of it.

[usdebtclock.org]

"But Hamilton wanted to go farther than debt assumption. He believed a funded national debt would assist in establishing public credit. By funding national debt, Hamilton envisioned the Congress setting aside a portion of tax revenues to pay each year's interest without an annual appropriation. Redemption of the principal would be left to the government's discretion. At the time Hamilton gave his Report on Public Credit, the national debt was $80 million. Though such a large figure shocked many Republicans who saw debt as a menace to be avoided, Hamilton perceived debt's benefits. "In countries in which the national debt is properly funded, and the object of established confidence," explained Hamilton, "it assumes most of the purposes of money." Federal stock would be issued in exchange for state and national debt certificates, with interest on the stock running about 4.5 percent. To Republicans the debt proposals were heresy. The farmers and planters of the South, who were predominantly Republican, owed enormous sums to British creditors and thus had firsthand knowledge of the misery wrought by debt. Debt, as Hamilton himself noted, must be paid or credit is ruined. High levels of taxation, Republicans prognosticated, would be necessary just to pay the interest on the perpetual debt. Believing that this tax burden would fall on the yeoman farmers and eventually rise to European levels, Republicans opposed Hamilton's debt program.

"To help pay the interest on the debt, Hamilton convinced the Congress to pass an excise on whiskey. In Federalist N. 12, Hamilton noted that because "[t]he genius of the people will ill brook the inquisitive and peremptory spirit of excise law," such taxes would be little used by the national government. In power, the Secretary of the Treasury soon changed his mind and the tax on the production of whiskey rankled Americans living on the frontier. Cash was scarce in the West and the Frontiersmen used whiskey as an item of barter."
Reclaiming the American Revolution: The Kentucky and Virginia Resolutions and their Legacy
by William Watkins

Take every calorie since 1789 that was stolen and imagine where creative wealth flows when it is no longer stolen by the Central Bank Scam Process.

Who uses those calories to do what exactly when those calories are no longer stolen and used to steal more?

"First in the importance of its evil influence they considered the money monopoly, which consists of the privilege given by the government to certain individuals, or to individuals holding certain kinds of property, of issuing the circulating medium, a privilege which is now enforced in this country by a national tax of ten per cent., upon all other persons who attempt to furnish a circulating medium, and by State laws making it a criminal offense to issue notes as currency.

"It is claimed that the holders of this privilege control the rate of interest, the rate of rent of houses and buildings, and the prices of goods, – the first directly, and the second and third indirectly. For, say Proudhon and Warren, if the business of banking were made free to all, more and more persons would enter into it until the competition should become sharp enough to reduce the price of lending money to the labor cost, which statistics show to be less than three-fourths of once per cent. In that case the thousands of people who are now deterred from going into business by the ruinously high rates which they must pay for capital with which to start and carry on business will find their difficulties removed. If they have property which they do not desire to convert into money by sale, a bank will take it as collateral for a loan of a certain proportion of its market value at less than one per cent. discount.

"If they have no property, but are industrious, honest, and capable, they will generally be able to get their individual notes endorsed by a sufficient number of known and solvent parties; and on such business paper they will be able to get a loan at a bank on similarly favorable terms. Thus interest will fall at a blow. The banks will really not be lending capital at all, but will be doing business on the capital of their customers, the business consisting in an exchange of the known and widely available credits of the banks for the unknown and unavailable, but equality good, credits of the customers and a charge therefor of less than one per cent., not as interest for the use of capital, but as pay for the labor of running the banks.

"This facility of acquiring capital will give an unheard of impetus to business, and consequently create an unprecedented demand for labor, – a demand which will always be in excess of the supply, directly to the contrary of the present condition of the labor market. Then will be seen an exemplification of the words of Richard Cobden that, when two laborers are after one employer, wages fall, but when two employers are after one laborer, wages rise. Labor will then be in a position to dictate its wages, and will thus secure its natural wage, its entire product.

"Thus the same blow that strikes interest down will send wages up. But this is not all. Down will go profits also. For merchants, instead of buying at high prices on credit, will borrow money of the banks at less than one per cent., buy at low prices for cash, and correspondingly reduce the prices of their goods to their customers. And with the rest will go house-rent. For no one who can borrow capital at one per cent. with which to build a house of his own will consent to pay rent to a landlord at a higher rate than that. Such is the vast claim made by Proudhon and Warren as to the results of the simple abolition of the money monopoly.""
Benjamin Tucker, State Socialism and Anarchism:
HOW FAR THEY AGREE, AND WHEREIN THEY DIFFER 1888

If surplus wealth (creative wealth) is measured as smiles by some people, and other people measure creative wealth in body counts of mass people bull dozed into mass graves, then there are in those subjective opinions of "creative wealth" contentions that lead to conflicts of interest which lead to either more smiles or more bodies in mass graves.

@ChrisODonnell

"Anarchy came about in 1600's..."

Can you point to a reference for the emergence of anarchy in the 1600s?

It has been claimed that the first American anarchist was Josiah Warren 1798 to 1874. I think his work is worthy of reading on this subject matter.

"I was condering more along the lines of sucssess and achievement rather than looking to mesure walth by trivial means colories."

A problem identified by Warren when dealing with how wealth is measured is the differences of opinions not only between individuals (each tending to have a different one in some way), but also each individual may measure wealth differently from day to day.

If the goal is to standardize the measure of wealth in an agreeable way then success and achievement is problematic for that reason: differences of opinion. I might agree with a standardized measure of wealth based on success and achievement once I see such a thing.

The number of popular songs by a musician, the number of cures for diseases, and the number of innocent people defended against criminals who would harm them are all measures of success and achievement to me. If the idea is to then give them money (or cars, homes, airplanes, bitcoins, stock shares, precious metals, rare minerals, rare mineral mines) in proportion to their success and achievement how would you then standardize the value of each transfer of wealth?

How much is one car worth compared to how many ounces of rare metals, or a house on the beach in the Bahamas?

Watt/hours are precise measures of productive power and so far as I know the value of productive power does not decrease with abundance or increase with scarcity as do other standard measures of value such as Federal Reserve Notes printed by criminals running a Central Banking Scam.

As more and more Federal Reserve Notes are printed and doled out to favorites of the regime the result is a power transfer from those who produce anything worth stealing to those who print the money, all the while the standard value (one unit of money) depreciates, eventually depreciating to less valuable compared to used toilet paper.

With Watt/hours (convertible to calories or joules precisely) the increase in production of each unit, stored in batteries, stored in ocean water pumped to higher altitudes for later use such as desalinization, filtration, and electric power generation, remains valuable, so long as people can still use that form of productive power.

So...standardized measures of surplus wealth can be thereby compared.

  1. Federal Reserve Notes
  2. Kilowatt/hours

The more Federal Reserve Notes printed the less valuable is each unit of value, as power flows to the printers, as power flows from those who produce anything worth stealing.

The more kilowatt/hours produced the more success and achievement occurs as people use that productive power, and each unit remains as valuable as it always is, so long as people still want electricity to help them succeed and achieve.

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