Many Canadians are like some Americans, they do not want to know the truth. They don't want to hear anything about the truth. Their weak minds can not handle the truth. #Trump2020

@jakuboj My family literally exploded on me at xmas for trying to get them to consider that they need to look into more information and not trust the mainstream. The called every alt source trash and said they were just going to watch the same news they always have.

@RagingImp they are victims of mind control techniques deployed by the enemy.

@jakuboj 100%

Just look north at Canada is you want to see how the OWG Communist takeover progresses.

It's called dealing with the enemy. Ever hear of the saying keep your friends close and your enemies closer? He is playing China but those with Trump Derangement Syndrome do not have the intelligence to understand his tactics. Watch and learn. Do you really think he could tell the truth about the Communists during negotiations and still get a deal? Are you that naive?

The "Left" does not want to overthrow the government - they actually want the Constitution to be followed. I could say the "Right" wants to overthrow the government and throw out the Constitution, since they are complete Trump loyalists and want him to be declared "President for Life", they want America to be a Christian Theocracy, and they are fantasizing about a civil war where their "80 million patriotic Americans" can go around shooting people.

@JacksonNought Are you now trying to claim that the left, despite their words and actions to the contrary, do not support the UN OWG Agenda 21 and 30, the Global Migration Pact or the Paris Accord? Really???

You are very fortunate to have Trump to save the USA from the Communist agenda. We have nobody in Canada to fight for us and we are quickly falling under the UN OWG/ Communist control.

@jakuboj so I am looking... Agenda 21 seems to have been made in 1992 to combat climate change, world poverty, and disease. I can't seem to find anything on Agenda 30.

What I am seeing is a lot of fringe conspiracy theories that have been around for decades that think agreements to participate in efforts to better the world are excuses to try and create a new world order and plunge the world into Communism. You do realize that countries can band together for a good cause without relinquishing their sovereignty and trying to make one world government?

And if you honestly think Trump cares about anything other than himself, I have a bridge to sell you.

@JacksonNought I understand your way of thinking. I myself used to consider myself a leftist before I saw the big picture. Please allow me to explain. Of course, the majority of leftist citizens aren’t actively trying to overthrow America. They are just supporting what they think is best for her. Unfortunately, most leftists don’t understand that the left isn’t just progressiveness. Overthrowing the constitution is a very real threat that leftists (knowingly or unknowingly) are orchestrating in the hopes of creating a OWG. Down below, I touched on the problem with socialism from a firsthand perspective because my family has lived in communist countries for many years. Bottom line is it is the first step to taking away our rights.

Already, we are groomed for being communist. We are losing our freedom of speech, religion, and second amendment rights just like my family did in Asia years ago. I’m sorry to sound lecture-y, I’m just very concerned. Please see what I had to say about socialism below

@JacksonNought Read the documents. Read the actual words, not just the warm and fuzzy names they try to sell it under. And yes if you had been paying attention you would know that Trump is fighting them for us. He has withdrawn funding and publicly stated that he does not support their OWG agenda. Calling something a conspiracy theory when it is occurring before your eyes is a cowardly cop out. read the documents or watch videos on them, there are many out there on YouTube. Then ask yourself why your leaders have never spoken out against the agenda and why the MSM never discusses it. You have been conned by the UN OWG Communist supporters.

@Tati, thank you for accepting (what others here refuse to) that not all left-leaning people are "evil" or the "enemy" who want to overthrow America. Yes, Progressives support what they thing will be best for the country / world - much like Conservatives believe they are doing what is best. However, your implication that people on the left are unaware of what they are actually supporting, or are trying to overthrow the Constitution to create a OWG, is ludicrous. I could easily say the same of people on the right, and how they want to overthrow the Constitution in order to create a Christian Theocracy where they execute gay people and Atheists on the street.

@jakuboj, again I could just say the same of the people you support. Look at their rallies. Look at their cult-like ceremonies laying hands on Trump and calling him the chosen one. Look at everything Pence has tried to do in his career. If you have been paying attention you would know that Trump is doing everything in his power to corrupt his position to enwealthen himself and his family, and subjugate the common people. He is doing everything in his power to overthrow the Constitution to give him emperor -level power, and is destroying our rights to please his rabid base by promoting blatant Christian favoritism. Read the documents or watch videos on them, there are many out there on YouTube. Then ask yourself why your leaders have never spoken out against the Conservative agenda. You have been conned by the Trump loyalists and Christian Dominionists.

@JacksonNought What part of publicly supporting, being a member of, working for, funding, signing agreements with and sitting on boards with, is insufficient proof for you that your politicans support the UN OWG agenda? How much more proof do you need? Ask one of them yourself whether they support the UN and see what they say. Or are you afraid of reality like most lefties?

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@jakuboj what part of publicly supporting, being a member of, working for, funding, signing agreements with and sitting on boards with, is insufficient proof for you that your politicians support the Christian Dominionist and Trump Monarchy agenda? How much more proof do you need? Ask one of them yourself whether they support making Trump "President for Life" or throwing out the Constitution in favor of Christian Theocracy and see what they say. Or are you afraid of reality like most righties?

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@JacksonNought Do you really believe those left wing rags. Come on. think for yourself for once.

@JacksonNought The title of the RS article is FALSE IDOL. When you see that it tells you they are trying to sell you on a theory, they are not reporting news. It is their business to sell you on stuff, right up to how you think. It's the power of suggestibility, some people are more vulnerable to it. Mentalists know this when they are screening the audience for susceptible people.

Hello JacksonNought. You talk of theocracy. Have you heard about them?
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@JacksonNought brainwashed you are

@JacksonNought, @Tati These people in America and Canada have had NO STRUGGLE for too long so they want to blame everyone else for their FAILURES !

@jpnese it’s true

Look at China for my definition of Communism.

Reading the UN OWG documents and understanding that China is in control of the UN would provide everyone with clarity on our situation.

@jakuboj I am referring to Communism as a socio-economic system.
I do not disagree with you that China is a threat to the world. The US through both Democratic and Republican administrations has made itself in many ways dependent on China. Look at how much of our debt China owns. This has been demanded by the new world government, in other words the extremely wealthy, who are going to come out of this Corona virus even wealthier. They are the ones who are controlling what many governments do.
Back in the 1950s a factory worker could earn enough to support a family on that one job. Now it sometimes takes both family adults multiple jobs and even then cannot make it.

@Pand0ro Exactly! And if Trump is not fighting against then then who is?

Show me one left wing political party that does not support the UN OWG agenda.

I understand what you’re saying. On behalf of everyone here I’m sorry for the generalizations. It is true, most leftists citizens aren’t aware of the agenda behind the left. Unfortunately, most left wing politicians do support a OWG behind closed doors. I’m very concerned about this because the only way they’ll accomplish this is to take down America through socialism. I didn’t come to this country to go back to communism lol. It is true that we agree on a lot. I actually probably agree with more left views then right views when it comes to social issues, but I would call myself right- leaning. I had a couple comments about socialism above, so please see those to explain what the leftists are up to.

well unfortunately it appears America does WANT A CAREER POLITICIAN

a 50 year veteran who has accomplished nothing of substance other than the 1994 Crime Bill was a hero back then !

Show me one left wing politician who has argued against joining the UN OWG agenda. As for your admitted lack of knowledge on the OWG agenda, that is inexcusable. The information is on the internet put out by the UN. They are not trying to hide their goals.

I think I replied to you before but I’ll do it again lol. Leftists aren’t evil people. They think they are doing what’s best for America, they just don’t understand fully what they are supporting. Just like how not all slightly- right- leaning people are straight, white, male, old, gun slinging maniacs. Like me for example . Once again, please see my 2 comments above on socialism.

Some people are truly appalling

I can see your point, and I can agree, however, socialism unfortunately is the first step to communism. I don’t want to tell you what to believe, but please be aware. Socialism works for Norway, Finland, etc. because they are small countries and a socialist government can be properly enforced. We mustn’t hold the US to the standards of these European countries because they are much smaller. It is impossible to enforce socialism here as in Finland.

You see, when my grandfather lived in China and my mother in Russia, they were drawn to socialism as a means of free healthcare, low cost education, and many of the other things socialism is advertising for the US. It seems like the perfect solution. Unfortunately, like communism, the only way to enforce these economic changes is strict government involvement, and that’s how those countries became communist.

I’m sorry for this big essay, and if I sound lecture-y, but I’m just very concerned that what happened in Korea, Russia, etc. could happen here. In my opinion socialism is the first step. I wanted to let you know because it seems like you believe socialism and communism are polar opposites.

Your bio says you’re a progressive person, as am I, so I’m interested in your opinion. Are you socialist, and do you think it is a good fit for America?

Anyone supporting socialism is on a slippery slope, which ultimately leads to larger and larger government until they control everything and that is communism.

@Tati Your arguments are tailored to the socialism and communism of the past, during WW2. Socialism of today as evolved. We reject the bad ideas of socialism and communism (i.e Russia, China, Cuba and Venezuela). We want to bring more democracy into the economy hence the term democratic socialism. Specifically, we want to bring democracy into the work place through worker cooperatives.

Let me explain,
For along time we have had slavery, where there are a few slave owners at the top and many slaves at the bottom. Horrible system, obviously. Then in Europe and other places, came Feudalism, where there are a few Lords at the top and many poor Surfs at the bottom. It was better than slavery but still a lot of inequality. Then along came capitalism. It was better than feudalism but the top-bottom dynamics of the system remained the same. You have a few at the top, the Employers and many at the bottom, employees.

For the "new" democratic socialist its not really about bigger government. We understand the having the government completely take over would just replace a private Employer with a government official. The average worker is still in the same place, struggling for crumbs. In a worker co-op, the workers ALL own the business. They democratically vote on all decision or elect representatives to do so. They decide, what to produce, how to produce, and more importantly, what to do with the profits. I believe the government does have a role in providing healthcare and education, but first we need to get money out of politics, no SuperPacs, no dark money, and publically finance ALL elections.

Also, what does size have to do with implementing social democracy in the U.S. I've heard people make this argument but never gotten specifics. If anyone can do it, its America. Hope I answered your question.

@Tati Oh, if you want more info on worker-cooperatives, look up Richard Wolfe, he's an economist.

Any politician who supports the UN. How much simpler can I say it? The UN documents all identify a OWG as their goal. Knowing that, if a politician supports the UN, then they logically support the UN goal of OWG. There is no difference between OWG and Communism other than the name. Have you done the research on the UN?

@PhilaNDemTDs do you not look at the insane politicians in the Democrat party who share your strange vision? That alone should snap you out if your Socialism trance. Show me a socialist system that worked in a multiculturalism style country.

@PhilaNDemTDs This is interesting, thanks for the clarification. Worker co-op in theory could be a good thing, but Democratic socialism as a whole in theory is not sustainable.

While there is good thinking in this type of socialism, it has issues. For one, it would cost the US about 3 Trillion more dollars than she already spends per year, and that is without taking into consideration the cost for the Green New Deal. That is why it can’t work for large countries. There is more cost involved with more people. Eventually we will run out of money. Smaller countries have less people to support, so it can work for them.

I wish it could, but democracy cannot save socialism. On the outside, it could, because if we have elected a leader or CEO we don’t like, we can just “vote the bastard out” as they say. Any future Lenin or Hugo Chavez wouldn’t get elected in the first place. But what about voter ignorance? After all, Hugo was democratically elected, and look at Venezuela today. Most Americans can’t even name the 3 branches of government, but somehow they can monitor socialist leaders for corruption? It is unrealistic. And besides, with more government control, there will be more suppression of opposition, and so the average voter will be unaware of a threat to democracy. The government will have more control over the economy, and by using their resources and censoring the truth, any power- hungry leader can ensure that the country will not be democratic for long.

Worker co- ops are well and good, and maybe they will put more money into the hands of the middle class. However, while many companies would officially be under private ownership, the democratic socialist agenda ensures that the federal government controls the bulk of economic resources. The US government would face many of the same problems faced by previous socialist governments- pre or post WW2. The US would have to manage the mass of the economy. Money can make many people corrupt, and if the government were put into this situation, ulterior motives are bound to arise.

You make a point that it this could not easily happen to the U.S, and this is true. It couldn’t happen right away. We have more wealth then the average Venezuela, after all. Also, we have checks and balances, and the judicial system wouldn’t allow any threats. However, over time, these constraints are not perfect. Court- packing is when additional leaders are elected into the justice system so that a party has a lot of people in charge supporting its views. Both the left and the right are attracted to this strategy. American socialists could use this strategy to get the judicial system and constitution off of their backs. So, in the long- run, democratic socialism could not be sustainable. Maybe in a perfect world.

Not to argue with you, but I hope that makes sense. What do you think? And welcome to the community btw

@Tati This makes sense, though. If the government is going to control all of these factors such as healthcare and housing, it creates a grip on the free market and lessens its effect. I know people who wanted Bernie had good intentions, but they weren't looking at the big picture.

@ErixHearingYou right

@PhilaNDemTDs

It sounds pretty, but you’re still spraying perfume on a turd.

You ask, quite inauthentically, which politicians on the left support a one world government. I’ll ask you: name one Democrat who doesn’t excoriate Donald Trump for advocating control of our borders and restricting immigration to a merit-based system. And eliminating illegal immigration altogether. I’ll tell you how many: none.

Of course none of them are saying, “Let’s eliminate the idea of sovereign nation states and turn over all national authority to international organizations like the UN.” They’re just pushing as hard as they can to implement the necessary first step. Can’t have a one-world government if you have a bunch of sovereign nation states running around. And you can’t have a nation if there are no borders, if anyone can come in, at will, if there’s no standard that has to be met to achieve citizenship. And the left knows it. Instead of debating the issue, which they are loath to do, ttry to shut down debate altogether with cheap words like xenophobia and racism.

As for socialism, I always liked Ayn Rand’s take: the difference between socialism and democratic socialism is the difference between murder and suicide.

If you pretend that socialism in any of it’s deceptive disguises is in any way compatible with the American system, or ever can be, you are lying. The sovereignty of the individual over the group is at the core of our national identity. The flag said “Don’t Tread On Me,” not “Don’t Tread On Us.” Along with that is the primacy of private property ownership. Figure out how to mesh communal ownership and cooperative leadership with those two principles. Go on, try. I’d pay to watch that.

@Tati, as I said previously, the USA already has Socialist programs. And those Socialist programs are not a slippery slope towards Communism. If that is the case, then Capitalism is a slippery slope towards Oligarchy and eventually Monarchy. So let's get rid of Captialism, right? Things work in moderation, and you implement working ideas from different ideologies to make a functioning whole.

@jakuboj, okay, so any politician who supports Trump also supports turning America into a Christian Theocracy Dictatorship, right? That's how this works, right? If you support something you support 100% of every bit of it? Trump clearly thinks he has the absolute power to do whatever he wants with no constraint, and he is stripping away people's rights and allowing Christians to disobey the law using their religion as an excuse - so he clearly wants to be a dictator and make this a theocracy. So anyone who supports Trump in any way wants him to be a dictator. Using your logic, that must be true. How much simpler can I say it? Do you not look at the insane politicians in the Republican party who share your strange vision? That alone should snap you out if your Theocratic Conservative trance. Show me a theocracy which worked in a multiculturalism style country.

@Edgework, name one Republican who isn't a Trump loyalist, excusing away any of his actions or statements, or who doesn't walk on eggshells to keep him happy. If you pretend that theocracy and dictatorship in any of it’s deceptive disguises is in any way compatible with the American system, or ever can be, you are lying.

@JacksonNought leftwing Communist style propaganda spreading from your soap box does not mean you are correct. I am still waiting for your specific examples backed up by verified facts about Trump and yet still all you have is virtue signalling?

@JacksonNought, @Edgework what he said....