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This would mostly pertain to US citizens, where do you stand on the gun control debate? Are you in favor of more gun control legislation, or against additional regulations?

SpikeTalon 10 Feb 14
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If The People can't be trusted to have guns, then a government "by and for The People" can't be trusted to have guns either. Besides which, what do you think the government is made up of? And just let me add. Duh.

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Guns protect the right to revolution against an overbearing government. All else is secondary. (second-ary.. get it? πŸ˜›)

Agreed, and I'm personally opposed to gun control legislation.

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Only American adults are preoccupied with β€˜defending themselves’ in a modern world with a police force and the greatest military the world has ever known. U need to stop watching Hollywood movies. Your fantasies and delusions or grandeur are only getting children killed. Oh and stop treating people like shit then u won’t have to watch ur back every 5 minutes and live in a workd where kindergarteners are slaughtered like goats!

The last time the CDC studied defensive use of firearms, they found that people defended themselves to 2.2 million times in one year in the United States. Top that off with the fact that there is a constitutionally protected right to bear arms. These are not fantasies or delusions but facts.

That was more a rant than a simple answer for or against additional gun control legislation. It's not good to assume things either, which you clearly did...

The police don't have to protect you, aren't usually around, and don't understand justice in the slightest degree. Keep talking about how "defending themselves" is a negative.

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My position on this changed recently. Initially I was in support of banning access to guns particularly guns which had a history of usage in mass shootings (namely the AR-15). But my position has since changed.

Here in the UK you may be surprised to learn you CAN actually own an AR-15 legally. Yet we do not seem to have the mass-shooting pandemic that is often portrayed of America.
Granted population size and β€œfuzziness” over the terminology plays a hand but it is still evident that there is a difference between the two nations with regards to this particular weapon.

I’ve come to the conclusion that it is due to the more stringent requirements that a responsible gun owner has to meet in order to own such a weapon here in the UK that reduces its misuse.

When looking at mass shooters they all got access to guns either through entirely legal means, by exploiting a needless loophole or because another gun owner was not responsible with its security.

As hard a pill it is to swallow I do believe that better vetting would decrease such occurrences. I don’t agree with banning guns, or restricting citizens access to any firearm. But just like a car owner needs to show they can own a vehicle responsibly so too a gun owner should demonstrate they can own AND STORE a firearm in a safe responsible fashion.

Enjoy your guns lads, if ever I visit the States I’ll be sure to get a shot in the range.

Good reply, thank you for the feedback.

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I grew up around guns and safety was and always will be of the upmost importance.

My thoughts are that it is more of a people/culture problem. Yesterday (2/15/19) there was another shooter in Illinois, apparently he had been laid off his job because he was becoming a redundant part of the manufacturing process. It was someone who did not feel that they had a place anymore and lashed out in a particularly dangerous way.

I am not entirely sure what gun laws would have been effective is preventing him from getting a gun (reports are that it was a handgun not an some AR varient or long gun...and yes I know AR stands for Armalite, just to be clear) we can talk about banning certain types of guns or mental health, as if there is some magic bullet, excuse the pun, to fix this issue.

As Dr. Peterson, and many others, point out it has more to do with our relationship with our community and our place and potential in it. I believe that yesterday's attack was a man who had lost faith in his community and in an act of selfish revenge placed himself above others.

Idk what the solution should be, but it's not as easy as banning certain weapons or it's just about mental health issues and keeping guns away from them. I think that we should start by the way we reach out to others and them feeling as though they are integral members and they have a chance to improve themselves in this world.

Just my thoughts on the matter

We need to stop looking at the symptoms (gun violence) and start looking at the problems (societal decisions that piss people off to the point of murder).

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There has to be regulations to what type of weapons could be purchased and better background checks as to who can buy it however, I would never make it illegal. You need to be able to defend yourself and loved ones, also, in desperate times potentially even fight back a corrupt or tyrannical government. I don't think it is fair to blame the gun when it is clearly the individual's fault. EX: you would not blame the teeth of the lion for killing a zebra, you would blame the lion's psyche. Plus, if you want to ban everything that kills people, you'll have to ban knives, hammers and eventually your own hands, I'm sure those tools have killed more people in history.

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Against any more gun control. The gun control they have inacted over the years hasn't done any good at all. Colorado put more gun in effect crime went up. Chicage has the all kinds of gun control and the highest rate of death by firearms in the country. More of the shootings in the past 10 years could have been stopped by 1 person with a firearm, but everyone was unarmed except the shooter. So no way to defend themselves. More gun control laws will only take weapon out of the hands of law abiding U.S. citizens, not criminals.
Can't tell democrats that they won't listen anyways the people getting shot aren't the reason they want to outlaw guns.

Excellent reply.

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In favor of tighter centralized background checks and mandatory gun training.
On the other hand, i would like to see removed any restrictions on types of weapons owned by civilians. Full autos, grenade launchers, tanks, and nukes should be available to those who can afford them.

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I am against more gun control.

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I’m not fond of the term β€œ gun control β€œ it removes the responsibility of the individual the mind set . It’s about one human deciding to do unnecessary harm if that be the case . Unless we’re talking about dropping off boxes of loaded burp guns to a bunch of courious chimpanzees ..

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Against regulations. In my opinion there are other more effective solutions to the issue of violence in our schools. There is plenty of research to show that gun free zones are more targeted. Increase security, expand conceal and carry.

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I’m upset concealed carry reciprocity did not get a vote in the senate.

There aren’t enough β€œcommon sense” laws in the world to protect the people once you’ve taken their right to protect themselves.

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No further compromises on ANY of the Bill of Rights. Folks claiming they want "reasonable restrictions" are either blatantly lying or simply useful idiots. The goal is nothing less than the destruction of our culture and society and to do that they need to take the guns. If we are willing to fold on this we deserve neither Liberty nor Security. No compromises. On ANY of the Bill of Rights. What part of "shall not be infringed" is ambiguous?

I couldn't agree with you more.

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I like the idea that if someone pulls out a weapon to murder someone, many of those around him are capable of mitigating the problem.

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It's not working as it is. I am a gun owner, and a good shot, and I enjoy the sport.

I would support a total ban. Weapons should not be a right.

The ability to defend your life and the lives of those you care about is a basic human right. Weapons (especially firearms) make it far easier for people to defend themselves, especially for individuals who are unable to defend themselves physically. The founding fathers of the American Constitution understood that this was an inalienable right. That all men possessed it within them, and that it should not and could not be withheld by those in power. The second Amendment was written not to grant this right, but to protect it from those with authority, who might attempt to subvert it.

I applaud the honesty at least, but where would you draw the line on that reasoning (if anywhere)? For example, should a woman be charged with assault for using pepper spray on someone trying to rape her?

The right to life is enshrined in the Declaration of Independence. Inherent in the right to life is the right to self defense, from any threat, up to and including tyranny. Inherent in the right to self defense is the right to posses and use tools appropriate to that purpose. Ergo, if you don't have the right to possess weapons, you don't have the right to life.

We have a constitutionally protected right to bear arms. It doesn’t matter if people feel that weapons should not be a right, they are a right.

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