Enabling and incentivizing sex work! If individuals want to privately engage in prostitution, under the table and behind closed doors, there is nothing that can be done. Allowing girls to walk the street and/or advertise sex for money is immoral and should not be subsidized or supporter by government.

No subsidies, is getting blackout drunk illegal. Immoral doesn't mean illegal.

@RickKnight1 why does your morality have any special consideration over others morality? Morality is too subjective to be legislated and only causes black markets and crime due to holier than thou types who in many cases partake in the same things they fight against in the public eye. Hypocrisy runs deep in many of the holier than thou ones.

@RickKnight1 what about sex apps

@Rus-T-Balls Given your user name, this struck me funny!
Can you clarify what your question is about?

@george
Morality is objective, we have a universal preferred behavior. Murder, rape, theft, for example is wrong, no matter how you spin it, even if you say “morality is too subjective.” Ask yourself this, would you marry a prostitute and let her continue to work? Why not?

@RickKnight1 so u ask a question then answer for me with a why not question...lmao. Many people marry porn stars, who are prostitutes on film, and there are a few of them I might consider marrying if i got to know them. Just because some men have an ego and are to insecure to do it don't mean all are. Sorry, but morality is subjective. Many tribes sacrificed their own thru history and there have been cultures accepting of almost anything. The arrogance u have when it comes to your morality is astonishing. If u ever want a discussion instead of assuming u know my answers let me know but until u can put your "know it all attitude" of assumptions in check u are a waste of my time from here forward.

@george
You said “u are a waste of my time from here forward,” in the same paragraph you said “The arrogance u have when it comes to your morality is astonishing.” Lmao.
All while trying to prove you are of higher moral virtue, because you are willing to marry a whore.

Morality is objective, we know right from wrong. Good luck with letting your wife blow dick for money. Do you watch and film? Lol.

@RickKnight1 I have to disagree with you on this. Yes, there is a universal standard for morality, like rape, murder, genocide,theft, and a hundred other examples. However, what about divorce? Many people consider that to be immoral. Homosexuality? Worshipping pagan gods? Pre-marital sex? Gambling? Lying? Gluttony? Adultery? Drinking alcohol? Please explain how you reconcile the fact that some people consider these amoral while others don't?

@RickKnight1 awww, your emotional garbage is cute. It is always fun to see children trying to formulate arguments but because they lack reason and logic they resort to just emotions. U sure u arent a SJW liberal, u sure discuss things like they do.

@Williambyler u are wasting your time with that one. He asserts his stance as fact and goes to emotional outcries to support it. Not at all interested in debate, just the right wing SJW snowflake that is not capable of rational discussion.

@george
What happened George? You came at me first and now acting like I’m the one not capable of rational discussion. Ok you like hookers and would marry one, don’t be upset with me for thinking sex workers are immoral. I’m mean, if your daughter blew men for college money, will that be fine with you? Don’t answer, her body her choice! You are a sick man George.

@Williambyler
Even with the examples you gave, like divorces, We can say there is an objective moral position. Relationships turn sour and sometimes it’s best to end it. Every situation has a right and wrong way to do things. The government decriminalizing postituon and turning into a business is wrong. Allowing women to walk the streets selling their bodies is immoral. Alcohol consumption, premarital sex, gambling can be conducted in a moral way. Prostitution cannot be.

@RickKnight1 immoral for you. Two consenting adults none of anyone else's business. Your feelings don't supercede liberty.

@RickKnight1 Do you consider the fact that you think your idea of morality should be enforced by law to be moral? Your argument is paradoxical. If morality is not subjective, than what makes it objective? Who or what decided what is or is not moral? You forget that morality is a construct.

@RickKnight1 I didnt come at u first? I asked why your morality should get special treatment because it is subjective then u went to assuming answers for me instead of discussion. It is easy to read it in the post.

@RickKnight1 mine, yours and everyone else's daughter is gonna be blowing someone so if my daughter made a few bucks from it then good for her. It woulnt be because she has to do it but if that is what she chooses to do then that is what it is. U don't get to control adults.

@george
Not controlling adults, just not enabling and incentivizing them to prostitute themselves. That’s all I’m saying, it’s immoral for the government to not set an example by saying they will not support prostitution.

@RickKnight1 oh, btw....less than 200 years ago the rape and murder were accepted in the USA in the form of slaves being raped and beaten to death so to act like there is a set morality is just dishonest. Morality changes with the times. Even the so called "Christians" were cool with slavery and turned a blind eye to those crimes the same way they turn the blind eye to the Catholic priests raping the kids in today's world. Just because people claim a morality has no bearing on if that morality is upheld or even cared about. It is selectively applied therefore making it all subjective.

@RickKnight1 guess we will just have to agree to disagree about prostitution. It's legal in parts of Nevada and the ladies there are safe, tested, and not being raped in allies. I'll take the safety of legal over a subjective moral standard any day or the week of it protects the women who do choose that line of work.

@Williambyler
Not saying we should legislate morality, obviously some cannot be, however it is objectively immoral to argue that our government should enable and incentivize prostitution. Morality is objective. Some women will prostitute themselves and there is nothing that can be done, but we do not give them a loan to open up a whore house.

@RickKnight1 let's not let government be the moral authorities, considering it a collection of humans.

@Rus-T-Balls
The government is not the moral authority at all. Obviously since they are the one legalizing prostitution. That’s what I’m arguing. The government is wrong!

@george
Responding to your comments about slavery and murder and the roll religion had in that. That too was immoral, that’s why we moved away from that behavior. Slave owners might of thought they were good law biding Christian American citizens, but they weren’t at all good. Slavery is universally wrong in any language, country or culture. Slavery is objectively morally wrong.

@RickKnight1 no you are arguing that they should be I'm arguing it's none of anybody's business

@RickKnight1 u say it is wrong now because we as a society changed what is morally accepted pricing even more that it is subjective. Even the Bible condones slavery and murder of non believers and witches. None of what I say is proving morality is objective, it is just your feeling. I'm giving facts of how society and culture have changed morality over time. The very things u claim that are objective have been accepted as ok throughout history and popular opinion could change at any time and make all this stuff legal again. That alone proves we aren't born with objective morals, we make up what we want as a culture and selectively apply it how we see fit.

@RickKnight1 what kind of evidence do u have to offer that proves there is an objective morality? U keep asserting it for different things but give no evidence to back it up.

@george
I do not think that is something that is data driven. If I ask you for evidence of a subjective morality, you could not give me any. Morality is a branch of philosophy, which I hold a degree in, I’m not bragging, I have a shit degree, however I’ve studied moral philosophy. This is a philosophical argument, not a scientific one.

But let’s start with one example,
If morality is subjective then one culture or nation can claim they are of good morality and you who supports moral relativism would have agree. Let’s say that one culture are Nazi. Objectively speaking, nazi are of low moral character. Objective morality wins in this argument.

Now you can give an example in favor of subjective morality.

@george, @Rus-T-Balls
If it’s none of our business, then the government should not enable or incentives prostitution. They should not tax it, regulate it or issue a license for it, cause now it is our business.

@RickKnight1 I wouldn't have to agree to anyone claiming their morality is good. I could easily tell them that morality is subjective and changes over time in all cultures so they should open their mind with some compassion and empathy and reevaluate what they are doing. Don't know why u would think I have to agree with them.

@RickKnight1 just look at the differences of morality between western culture and eastern culture, and throw in the middle east as well. We all have different ideas of what is morally correct and there is no objective morality that is followed. If it were objective it would be the same world wide. People get their morals based on religious views as well as the other people in their community dictating what they will or will not tolerate. As long as the culture is prosperous and the people are happy there is no way to say which culture is living "morally correct".

@RickKnight1 Doesn't the simple fact that morality has changed so much throughout history be evidence that it is subjective? If I were to question two people about their morality, some of their answers would undoubtedly be different. So how would I know which one's ideas are correct? Assuming that morality is indeed objective, shouldn't everyone have the same morals? Or is anyone who disagrees with you "universal morals" an amoral person?

@RickKnight1 if you could please find a consistent argument and come back when you have your thoughts together that would be fantastic sir please and thank you

@RickKnight1 I just figured it out do you want to make prostitution illegal because you're a Patriots fan and you're worried about Robert Kraft

@Williambyler
Two people might not have the same moral compass, and morality of the time changes from time to time and place to place. But there were always a right and wrong since the beginning of our society. Slavery was always wrong, even if the society at the time did not think so!

@Rus-T-Balls
Lol. I’m not much of a football fan, but I always cheer for a New York team in any sport.

@RickKnight1 it's also momo es business who mines coal but the government taxes that as well same as ALL jobs.

@george
No matter the culture, we know how to behave. If a man rapes women and says that is his culture, his culture sucks. Plain and simple. You can defend him and say that is their moral interpretation, I would argue they should know what they are doing is wrong, because we have a universal preferred behavior whether we know it or not. Grant it , somethings will leave us conflicted, but for the most part we know how to behave.

@RickKnight1 funny u got to go to just rape or murder when this thread is about prostitution. Just shows u have a weak position and have to reach for other factors in order to have any kind of argument at all here. And like I already said, even the US had slaves and slaves were routinely raped and no one batted an eye because morality is subjective and didn't apply to the slaves. How funding see this is beyond me but it's cool, we can have a disagreement on it.

@george
I have given many examples already of why prostitution and other behavior is immoral, you refuse to see my perspective on the issue. The idea of legalizing prostitution will open up Pandora’s box. The state enabling and incentivizing women to sell their bodies will create a less moral society, we already have a good attitude about having a side piece, aka, cheating. Our society has moved towards a nilhilistic existence.

Yes I use rape, slavery and murder to give example of poor morality, you cannot refute that. Those things are objectively wrong in any culture or society regardless of who thinks not. You rather throw my argument out instead of dealing with it.
Peace out.