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What's your opinion on teacher's unions? Are you for or against them? Personally, I'm against taxpayer-funded unions.
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SpikeTalon 10 Mar 1
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I am somewhat conflicted. I am hardwired to dislike unions, but am married to a retired teacher who is not a union fan; but we are glad for our incredible health insurance. Does that make me a hypocrite? Perhaps, but I don't feel guilty!

I appreciate your honesty on the matter, all good there.

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Unions, unfortunately, have supplanted merit based advancement in the workplace. Performance has become secondary to tenure. No one who feeds at the public trough should enjoy benefits above those who them.The threat of a Union often serves as a better means towards workplace fairness than the actual Union. No taxpayer funded jobs should be unionized.

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Unions originally were set up to help fight abuse of the workers and set safety standards.
However, the unions today are political and workers are forced to pay union dues for politics they don’t agree with or support.
Unions also protect the incompetent who could not function outside of the union.

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I’m not for any government unions. I’m not for the dockworkers when they held up Long Beach because innocent people millions and millions of dollars. I guess I just don’t like Unions at all

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I think that having some jobs unionised and most not leads to a great disparity in income and job security. Perhaps I am just jealous.

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My only real objections to Public Sector Unions are the sweetheart deals whereby people who do work for the Union do it on the taxpayers dime and are paid by the tax payer even though they are not doing the job they were hired to do, And the idea that the worked should be forced to join a Union is totally out of line. I think people should be allowed to join Unions, I think that they should be no such thing as payroll deductions for Union dues or payments - the person joining the Union should pay it directly and outside of working hours and the working premises.

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They shouldn’t be using taxpayer money to fund unions.

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I support individuals collectively bargaining their terms. But the majority of American unions are backdoor government deals

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Unions are good. The workers will often drive sensible management decisions by having a strong voice and talking eye eye with bosses through their union advocates.
Good competent managers will encourage unionism and get the workers what they want whilst driving productivity increases.
I don't know what government funding you're talking about, but I'd suggest a little investment by corporates and government into functioning unions will get multiples of benefit for the organisation as a whole.

I support privately funded unions. Based on what you mentioned above I take it then you are not aware of the fact that in the US public school teachers/firefighters/and Law Enforcement unions are government funded, meaning supported by taxpayer dollars, and I'm opposed to such.

Unions, as currently constituted, are bad. They promote forceful and group confrontations in the workplace, driving a wedge between people that should be united in their goal. They drive artificial distinctions: between 'workers' and 'management' (right out of Marx), between employees in one field vs those in another, and between the employed and the unemployed.
There could be good unions, but we don't have any.

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The way I see it is this.

I support teacher unions as I believe it fights the post-modernist Marxist doctrine. If a teacher is payed not a great amount, and this is usually the case, they are more likely to teach or support the idea of Marxist equality - however if these teacher unions raise the wage they are less inclined to support the idea. Right now the universities are pushing post-modern ideas such as anti-logos (the motif of the West).

Without the logos there is not freedom of speech, or proper dialogue as everything is a "power struggle" and acting on the benefit of one self's power gain. It is dangerous as it increases nihilism (if everything is against you what is the point?).
I am rambling now, but you get the picture - teachers teach the youth that change the world.

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I agree with unions, I disagree with current police and teacher unions. I don't oppose employees banding together to leverage their collective power to bargain for better working conditions and wages...but I do disagree if it's done with tax payer money, or the fact they protect unqualified employees. I don't agree with employers not being able to fire incompetent employees, that is just ridiculous. I have heard stories that in NYC, crappy teachers just come in and read the newspaper all day, b/c it is impossible and too expensive to fire them. So they are kept out of the classroom, but still pull in a salary. WTH?!?

I too agree with privately funded unions.

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I like good teachers being paid well and bad teachers being fired. I also despise the idea that the unions and the politicians can get together to spend taxpayer money on each other. Government unions should be prohibited.

I concur.

I'll also add, based on some of the other comments, being able to directly negotiate a salary keeps an important avenue of communication open, and gives the employee a certain level of self respect.

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