They are.

Mis-quote; should be “To compel a man to furnish contributions of money for the propagation of opinions which he disbelieves is sinful and tyrannical.” In its context it would be “To force a man to donate to a religious organization whose beliefs he disagrees with is sinful and tyrannical.” See [aaronsw.com]

noun
the act of stealing; the wrongful taking and carrying away of the personal goods or property of another; larceny.
I know it seems pretty self-evident the dictionary is very clear taxation is very much theft especially when they take your money to fight extrajudicial wars in other countries, and fighting wars its own citizens.

This is meaner than I would have put it, but it's along the lines of how I viewed it, as well. ?

Why do you say that, Papanuts?

It is also a mis-quote; should be “To compel a man to furnish contributions of money for the propagation of opinions which he disbelieves is sinful and tyrannical.” In its context it would be “To force a man to donate to a religious organization whose beliefs he disagrees with is sinful and tyrannical.” See [aaronsw.com]

So what you are saying is that since the majority of Americans do not pay taxes then they should not be allowed to use these services?

@BrunosDad I'm not trying to make a point about what should or shouldn't be done. The original post was a blanket statement/theory so I countered with one. Taxation is a very broad subject, so I suspect anybody that ardently believes "Taxation is theft" (basically 'nuff said) isn't actually interested in any discussion.

continue too justify theft, its still theft.

So if there is no option, and refusal means the loss of my life, liberty... ITS THEFT

@Rus-T-Balls Plenty of options were detailed. If you don't want to pay any taxes, head out to the wilderness and live in a hut, scrounging nuts, grubs, and berries, using leaves for toilet paper.

@MarPep or the government could quit extorting all of its citizens, one of those seems more reasonable

@Rus-T-Balls Or you could leave the Republic and find a place with no taxes. We are a Republic of Laws, and you have the right to try to change the laws by legal means. But if you accept the benefits of living in the Republic, then you need to pay with the rest of us for the supplied goods or services. I do agree that a big chunk of our tax money is wasted or stolen, but the idea that all taxation is theft is baloney.

@MarPep So you have justified theft, not yet proven me wrong, I will indulge "Muh roads". Do you fell it would be more effective, to require the businesses that rely on them for profit to build and maintain said roads? I believe they would then be able to maintain all the roads far better. Knowing they were responsible for materials to get to the factory, for all employees to get to work, customers to get to store to buy the product, would make a better roads system than the 47 layers if bureaucracy, that have left our infrastructure crumbling from decades of neglect

@MarPep our repulic was founded to protect me, so now im to cater to tyranny, and allow generations of bureaucrats to spit on the foundation of this country, thanks, but no thanks. Not to mention my right to participate in the republic was stolen from me, for possessing a plant. so im forced to watch my country be given away by the weak, to the corrupt. give me liberty or give me death. any person willing to give up freedoms for government protections deserve neither

@Rus-T-Balls Protecting you costs money. Time to Pay Up Rusty.

@MarPep sounds like extortion care to rephrase?

@MarPep Are you going to come to my door, and force me to pay? Or will you send the armed goons, who love violating civil liberties?

@Rus-T-Balls Yup, if you're using a service that your community has decided is necessary(let's say fire, water, and sewer) and decided to use property tax to pay for it, then if you don't pay, after about 2 years, your property will be sold to the highest bidder (and you can bid, too). The community/State/whatever keeps the taxes due, and the high bidder gets the property. The new property owner can kick you off--or get the Sheriff to do it. If you physically resist, the sheriff will either arrest you or present you with a summons to appear before the court.

If you don't want to cooperate with your fellow citizens, move.

@MarPep thats what i figured you would send the goons, its cute you actually haven't done anything but justify theft... poorly at that. However after my pending lawsuit my local jack booted thugs tax dollars are coming my way!!!! HAPPY DANCE!!!! Proving it does pay to know my rights. My only regret is they won't be your tax dollars

Didn't take long

Implies ownership that doesn't exist anywhere except in the person's head that thinks they are being stolen from.

@Catherine How would that work in a barter system? If I was not participating in the exchange of currency but simply using a barter system of perceived worth for perceived worth. Would it then be taxation to take from me?

@BrunosDad First of all, let's be concise. If by barter one means to an exchange of goods and / or services, people already barter, and it's not taxable for people to barter. Now if you want to use the gouv's property to barter, then it is taxable. It's still not theft, because it is the gouv's property one is using.

@Catherine Exactly. It then comes down to what do I own and what does the gov't. That is where we seem to disagree. I believe that I own my body, mind, and the fruits of my labor. I believe that I should also own anything that the three of them have brought into my possession. To take anything away from me without my consent is theft.

You may not own the fruits of your labour if you are taking them in private debt notes. Everything you have bought with private debt notes, does not belong to you. It's highly questionable as to whether most people actually own their mind. Most of them just spew things they have heard elsewhere with very little actual basis for them. A great is example is taxation is theft.