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So, it's true.. .This guy made some mathematical model that predicted 60 % of people in the world might be infected with Covid19, and that was the reason for worldwide lockdown?

Some obscure deskjob nerd's calculus? And the governant decided to shut down without even bothering to verify his model by someone who actualy works with diseases?

  • No, even those vintage comics on super-vilans out to destroy the world weren't this much unreal and twisted. Someone should sue that college!

[thepause.com]

kresica 7 May 6
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So we all agree it is too many Zombie movies! The quibbles I will mark up to the deliberate mystification by political parties, media, science who love their Computer models, China, and anything the President says and the Press immediately plants a death star on, Ladies with sewing machines making pretty and symboled face mask for fun and profit. A pox on you all! But! We all got a front row seat to politics, the not so good, the really bad, and the definitely UGLY!

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And the conspiracy theories just keep coming. Not only are the vast majority of these theories untrue, they don't even make sense. For instance, Italy went into lock down on Mar. 9, a full week before this guy published his results.

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Just Sayin...

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Its far less of a threat than even the nerd thinks. Here's why.

Geneticists who have analyzed the gene sequence of SARS COV2, which causes COVID-19, are confident of three facts: 1. There are no markers which are unavoidable when genes are spliced (engineered).
2. The forensic path clearly shows a very old gene sequence consistent with a path through bats found in China, but no where near Wuhan.
3. A much more recent forensic path in the gene sequence of the virus shows that it went through the pangolin before jumping to humans, which this post, in part, correctly reports.
[virological.org]

The R-nought value of SARS COV2 is 5.7 in 2.5 days, which tells us that the entire globe was exposed to the virus long before the West was even aware of its existence in China. And that means social distancing and masks were an attempt to prevent exposure that had already happened. [healthline.com]

Furthermore, 99% of those the virus kills are smokers and people of any age with serious pre-existing conditions. Its possible that the remaining 1% also have pre-existing conditions that are undiagnosed. See "Multiple Conditions Increase Risk." [informationisbeautiful.net]

So with a case base that could be 2000 times greater than reported right now, that makes the virus 2000 times less dangerous - far less than the common flu. SARS-COV2 is less dangerous to healthy people than driving. Not a very effective biological weapon.

Doctors think no disease should be acceptable. And as medical doctors, they may be ignorant of the consequences of political decisions. Does COVID-19 kill people? Yes. The same people who doctors like Dr Fauci should expect to be taken out by the flu and pneumonia, etc, because of other infirmities, every year. 2,046,549 people died in the US last year of all causes except suicide. 73,000 are now listed as dying of COVID-19 in the US, almost all of whom could have been listed as dying of their pre-existing conditions.

Are the Chinese making the most of all of this? Of course they are. They are pretty good at strategic planning, but it doesn't mean they orchestrated this, sorry.

Finally, Creating a vaccine will be futile if it mutates, as at least one source I have seen has asserted will happen. Do we want to destroy our nation waiting until we find a vaccine that is effective?
[theblaze.com]

So how did this happen? The media in the US was about to go under for the last time as among the least trusted groups in history (below Congress) and desperately needed a sensational story. When Taiwan announced the virus, the media did their best to make it as bad as they possibly could, and the American public - particularly the dumber half of the IQ curve, was ready to play victim. Get rid of your TV, and feel free to ridicule anyone who still watches.

There is no threat. And China could not have done what our own media did.

I agree with everything except you R0 assumption that the whole world was already infected by the time we discovered the disease:

  1. Your source does not state that at all. It states the level of infections required to reach herd immunity.
  2. If your statement were true we would have had positive cases In Fiji and other islands... they have none. We have zero cases in large areas of NZ ( as you have in the US) and we tested 10s of thousands everywhere.

No, the disease was not everywhere early and lockdowns did reduce the spread significantly.

The rest you are correct in my view.
In NZ our death count of 20 includes people who tested negative for the virus, however where in proximity of infected people and shows symptoms. So we just included them because they could have been infected.
This is the case world wide. The reported death rate is many times higher the actual rate. And the infection rate is also many times higher than reported so we have grossly overrated the mortality rate.

The world got scared watching too many zombies movies and we destroyed our economies for no reason.

@Hanno, So you can't do the math, and because some places are pretty isolated, you think that violates the general fact. Neither thing disproves what I have said, which if you bother to learn the math, and the definitions regarding r-nought, you would know. And do you know anyone who was healthy who actually has died of COVID-19? I don't. We basically agree, so I wouldn't be quibbling in areas beyond your expertise if I were you.

@TimTuolomne
Wow, that was a rather defensive attack on me.
Ok, I cannot do the math... R0 of 5,7 means the it is highly infectious.
Therefore if you are exposed there is a very high likelihood of getting infected... if you are not infected it conversely implies that you were likely not exposed.
After thousands of tests many areas have no infections or extremely low levels. Which means these areas were not exposed, even now. This includes states in the US!

So no, it is not a matter of me not being able to do the math. It is a matter of you not being able to do the basic logic.
So go and insult yourself.

@Hanno, Not correct. I am not insulting you. I am asking legitimate questions. And you have answered one of them, as well as made an incorrect assertion about testing, which will be proved soon enough. But feel free to try to insult me, instead of engage the discussion.

@dd54, If you read my post carefully you will find "99% of those the virus kills are smokers and people of any age with serious pre-existing conditions." and cited [informationisbeautiful.net]

I did NOT say it kills only older people, and I did NOT say it kills all smokers. (One of your previous complaints)

And I have seen no credible papers on comparative rates of mutation, only speculation.

@dd54. I made no comment about those with COPD being smokers. You were saying?

By the way, this site

[theblaze.com]

asserts that a mutation of COVID-19 has already occurred.

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